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I can think of at least seven things I guarantee nobody has tried that would probably advance the plot in some way if an Admin took notice. It could also be that we have to wait for the next takeover, so things are stalled as a result.
Something more for those who aren't into PvP than endless Tide that can't be stopped because there aren't enough people to deal with it. Not a lot of fun going on, until an admin hands over the ultimate weapon/spell/thought that will end this.
That love soon might end You are unbreaking
And be known in its aching Though quaking
Shown in this shaking Though crazy
Lately of my wasteland, baby That's just wasteland, baby
Meld Shrines to disappear if no tide is on them and they are unwound completely.
Meld Shrines to spawn WITH tide on them.
Meld Shrines to spawn only in areas where the tide has reached.
It's kind of silly, as is, and someone issued themself last night to get an answer and it got immediately dismissed bcz #Mechanics.
Like, it's cool if you want them to be a threat and all.. but at this point, it's just a hassle because it's like "Well that Meld shrine is going to be there for a few years."
"Why?"
"Because we pushed back the tide so thoroughly that the shrine NEVER got to have tide on it."
That, or just have some way for shard fragments to have an alternative use that would destroy tide, make it easier (outside of erhmergerd +1 to a stat, but also Open PK to the entire world in a blackout hell!), or just let an entire area be protected.
Guard Bashing Hashan, at this point, is just tiring. Fighting tide (constantly), is tiring. I want something to progress outside of us literally leveling Hashan with an Earth-Shattering Kaboom w/ Hycanthus' help.
Ahh, thought it was all directed at Keorin...was so confused...
I say it pretty much every event (not the elemental invasion though, I liked that one) but I wish the Admin would put a bit more interactivity into the mechanics, because they are what take up 90% of the time. In this one for instance clearing the tide completely isn't going to happen because there aren't enough cooldowns available to unwind everything. Maybe if the whole world is covered there will be a failure condition but so far it seems that the only purpose of the tide is to collect shadows. It has also been shown that it only takes one shrine worth of shadows to destroy the barriers. So it -appears- there is nothing to do but keep the tide at bay and wait until the Admin step in to move it along. Maybe there is more. Maybe not enough people have played keyword bingo with the fragments yet to find what blows stuff up. Though if that is the case I would argue after 5 days of not being discovered that a couple of hints might be in order.
People play Achaea every day without events and so when these things are happening and it is a major deviation that stops them doing what they usually come here to do it needs to do enough to keep the interest that would normally be focused on what they actually come here to enjoy. When it is a week long of 'Your city has been occupied so instead of chatting with friends or mudsexing you have to go out there where any room spawns stuff that is going to attack you' it is pretty obvious that people will start to be burnt out. If there was some concrete goal they were working towards it would probably be different. If say the meld shrines couldn't spawn in consecrated areas so people were working claim all the areas for their gods with the tide slowly eating essence then once all the world had been claimed the teth would be forced to move on to plan B. Basically anything saying 'this is the goal, and this is the progress we are making'.
As it is though, it will be great for the one or two people who work it out or get an admin reply, good for people who want to bash endlessly, and frustrating for those who enjoy vanilla Achaea until the payoff. If the payoff is good then everyone forgets the monotony and it is forever remembered as a great event, if it is bad then people remember it as a bad event. And Achaea returns to how it always was because people enjoy doing what they were doing before the event or else they wouldn't be here.
tl;dr - If you are putting in inconvenience events make the mechanics of them more transparent so people feel like they are contributing.
I never said it was, however.. Due to IC reasons, we have to murder your guards etc. So, y'know. It actually is part of the event.
Tide is annoying, and while it was fun the first.. week of doing it.. it's gotten to the point where it's like.
Fight tide for 2 hours. Play games with BF for 2 hours. Come back for 1 hour before bed to check on tide. (No progress, or lost progress).
Go to sleep for 7~8 hours. Check progress on tide. (No progress, or lost progress).
Go to work for 9 hours.
Come home, check progress on tide (miniscule progress or severe setback). Rinse, repeat. I don't get time to do "much cool shit", and I'd love to do a ton of things, like the anti-Litany idea I had, or speaking with Hycanthus on how to explode an entire city. The loss of an entire city, while not an entire subset of the playerbase, has turned Cyrene into a mess. Which, sure I guess. That's the point. Who knows. However, it just is shitty, because they can't tend to their shops, or do what makes the game enjoyable to them. (To which your response will be WAHHHHHHHH THE GAME ISNT MEANT 2 B ENJOYABLE 4 EVERYONE AT ALL TIMES).
I just want to go back to logging in every now and then and having a bit of happiness to my game day instead of "oh boy. the 3+ hours of work I put in was literally useless."
I went extracting the other day and felt much happier for it. <_<
Also I'm pretty sure I've said this somewhere before but I can't stress how much easier it is to work with things if you have members with active patrons. It is a horribly meta approach, but if you see your God, don't bother talking to your God. Because ICly they can only offer so much assistance and are otherwise useless (sorry Neroes ily). Seize the opportunity to talk to the denizens. Because then you know 100% that there are at least people on the other end listening and you are more likely to get a response be it positive or negative.
ETA: The important thing here is that you get the denizens to say things straight to your face. Have an open list of agendas for anyone with an active patron to see so that anyone of them be it Nereian or Aegean or Phaestian will know to act on it.
Experience: I've worked with super elusive bosses before whom I sometimes don't see for days.
In saying this, there is a point where your characters have made their stance and position known, and when you go past it I see it less as IC potential growth and just using an excuse to grief beyond what is acceptable. Mhaldor did this against Hashan, and some may vouch that I pulled out of the fights at that point and had enough of it. The other part is that if 5 cities crap all over one, and that one city comes to each to exact their own state of revenge, it's best not to respond by escalating, instead just taking it on the chin and brawling it out. Escalating these things only leads to player burnout, and the game doesn't benefit from going above and beyond to burn players out. No enemies to fight = no conflict, and that's a shitty AF direction for the game. I will say, though, that seeing people as "villains" may not be wrong, but it's better to always shuffle being protagonist vs antagonist. Sometimes you should rally your city to be the assholes and push forward an agenda that will piss everyone off, and be ready to also take that brunt on. When the playerbase placidly waits for another city to do it just for "the easy fights", cities don't really push identity forward other than being placid IMO.
You may not always (or even often) get a response, but we try our best to keep abreast of those things and engage with people where we can. It's also really helpful if you have existing support, relationships or any sort of rapport with said denizens (or the faction they belong to) before proceeding with these things.
Consider that we respond to such requests ICly, and think about whether it makes sense for a particular denizen to even want to help you, especially since all of them have their own goals and motivations. Bring something to the bargaining table to offer! That sort of thing.