Class Tweaking

Arditi

Runicdolls. Requires a doll, a dagger, and inks. Carving a rune into the doll adds a constant effect to the victim, but fades after a period of time and reduces fashions.

Aepas

Arditi said:

Runicdolls. Requires a doll, a dagger, and inks. Carving a rune into the doll adds a constant effect to the victim, but fades after a period of time and reduces fashions.

Whoops, did I just give my opponent algiz?

Arditi

@Aepas

Nah.  I figired more along the lines of Xer accidentally giving one of his citymates transfix during a raid.

Mishgul

Bards should get a new instantkill where in a forest, they can push a piano out of a tree and instantkill someone and they should delete dirge to compensate.

Iocun

I think that would damage the piano though.

Arditi

Forest defenses are enough of a problem without having to worry about forestals in Wile E. Coyote morph.

Mishgul

I was being facetious. Don't panic. But now you mention it wile e. Coyote morph sounds amazing.

Synbios

Albeit with a chance of their own skills backfiring on themselves. 

Iocun

Clearly Mishgul knows nothing about pianos.

Mishgul

Pianos are paperweights, no?

Iocun

I once used a piano as a paperweight and my desk broke

Caladbolg

@Xith I like your idea of using runelore more than just a basic defense and a few runes on the ground. but Totems are really too overpowered and let's be honest. if someone isn't going to run into you standing a totem then they are going to look into the room to see if there's a totem slightly implanted and be like um no not walking in there.

Arador

So a better solution would be to give the totem legs so it can run into them. In soviet russia....

I can already see @Iocun standing and talking at Mog gates. Oblivious to the 300 totems closing in on him from all directions.

Tvistor

Preposterous. Runelorists should be allowed to replace their tattoos with runes and become totems.

Elowin

Darklyre

Caladbolg said:

@Xith I like your idea of using runelore more than just a basic defense and a few runes on the ground. but Totems are really too overpowered and let's be honest. if someone isn't going to run into you standing a totem then they are going to look into the room to see if there's a totem slightly implanted and be like um no not walking in there.

Runestones. Inscribe a stone with a rune like you would a tarot card. Gives the runelore user the ability to toss the stone and have it hit their target in an adjacent room with the inscribed rune's effect.

You could throw a Raido stone if you needed a temporary escape, for example, or have pseudo-bombs with different effects (room-wide Isaz).

Iocun

Runearrows. They work like complete totems with six slots and you can fire them like normal arrows and when they hit they give all the rune effects to everyone in the room of the target. Also they kill everyone.

Averi

Darklyre said:

Caladbolg said:

@Xith I like your idea of using runelore more than just a basic defense and a few runes on the ground. but Totems are really too overpowered and let's be honest. if someone isn't going to run into you standing a totem then they are going to look into the room to see if there's a totem slightly implanted and be like um no not walking in there.

Runestones. Inscribe a stone with a rune like you would a tarot card. Gives the runelore user the ability to toss the stone and have it hit their target in an adjacent room with the inscribed rune's effect.

You could throw a Raido stone if you needed a temporary escape, for example, or have pseudo-bombs with different effects (room-wide Isaz).

If failed, at least will give target a concussion. 

Kyrra

Omg. Yes please. I would totally customise my Lupine to shoot runearrows. It would be a pinball bow with flashing runes and make awesome noises after you pull the string back to release the arrow. *bounce*

Caladbolg

Daeir said:

I'll just stand over here in the corner with my envenomed arrows and cry myself to sleep.

Like anybody would ever use venoms again. Nairat arrows everyday.

No Prefarar rune though!

Rajan

We all shudder at the thought of Iocun's level 5 bow with runearrows.

Sena

Iocun said:

Runearrows. They work like complete totems with six slots and you can fire them like normal arrows and when they hit they give all the rune effects to everyone in the room of the target. Also they kill everyone.

I assume gular would wall every exit in the target's room?

Xith

Not opposed to super spells like that. You know, something that uses 35% of your willpower pool to shoot a runic arrow. Super-balance it.

But totems aren't really overpowered at all. But they are monodimensional. The standard hinder totem is defeated by metawake, which I believe is also not strippable by tiwaz or potentially other means. And when you expect implanted totems, softfocus makes that all better.

Also squint shows totems, like we've said. So they know whether the runist is vulnerable and so on. Defeats the purpose of propping half the time. But even without temporary implanting I can see there is potential for plenty of neat additions. My vote is for walking totems entities.

"A runic totem, your loyal companion has been slain."

Kyrra

I usually carry about 10-15 totems in my pack at all times. If two groups are engaged in melee, what's to stop me staking totems in every surrounding exit to hit people fleeing? Every for 10-15 seconds, those totems will presumably hit all enemies that enter while it's standing.

I can think up so many ways for this to be super abusable. And people thought the highway to Ashtan was bad with implanted totems.

Xith

Nothing would stop you from doing that. Except your supply of willpower, like I said.

Trevize

Runestones... I like this idea. Make runes salable without being present! Works for algiz, jera, and berkana.

Caladbolg

Kyrra said:

I usually carry about 10-15 totems in my pack at all times. If two groups are engaged in melee, what's to stop me staking totems in every surrounding exit to hit people fleeing? Every for 10-15 seconds, those totems will presumably hit all enemies that enter while it's standing.

I can think up so many ways for this to be super abusable. And people thought the highway to Ashtan was bad with implanted totems.

10-15 totems in your pack at all times? Jesus christ woman I got on your enemy list for a day or two (irl) and I didn't even want to play the game, Leave Targ hit 50 totems.

Kyrra

Caladbolg said:

Kyrra said:

I usually carry about 10-15 totems in my pack at all times. If two groups are engaged in melee, what's to stop me staking totems in every surrounding exit to hit people fleeing? Every for 10-15 seconds, those totems will presumably hit all enemies that enter while it's standing.

I can think up so many ways for this to be super abusable. And people thought the highway to Ashtan was bad with implanted totems.

10-15 totems in your pack at all times? Jesus christ woman I got on your enemy list for a day or two (irl) and I didn't even want to play the game, Leave Targ hit 50 totems.

You're still a jerk for making me cry.

I do a lot of totem work and I try to implant about 20 rooms a month. I always carry pre-carved, runed totems because it's more efficient.

Xer

Remind me to never get on Kyrra's bad side... >.>

Kenway

I foresee this getting shot down quicker than Kenway by Zinka's bow, but I've gotta give it a go. I'd like to see Runelore reworked to be more environmentally based. It's supposedly earth magic so it'd be cool if more of the runes did stuff like Isaz(earthquake) and Thurisaz/Othala(Volcano).

I noticed that the classleads for Runelore are mainly about flooding taking it out completely, but I think that tactically positioning yourself on the battlefield makes combat a lot more interesting. As it is, you can sketch two runes per room. For any affliction runes, this requires a Wunjo sketched first, meaning a one shot affliction on one enemy who enters that room. Useful with Nairat, less so with anything else. I think it'd be cool to see a rune that causes mudslides that could be used to move people between rooms.(would only work in natural rooms aka rooms you could runic empower stuff in so wouldn't effect raids on cities much.) And a room that can freeze a water room to the <direction>. This wouldn't make runes sketchable or totems propable in the room as the ice would not be earth, it would just give the frozen ground effect.

I dunno, I supposed I'd be totally cool with just revamped messages for the runes as well to make them seem more earth magic-y since to me, that's what makes them so cool.