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  • SarathaiSarathai
    Morsul said:
    On a scale of 1-10, how is druid bashing and PvP, in terms of solo and group combat?
    Bashing is maybe a 4, tops.

    PvP around a 6 or so. Group is an 8-9, maybe? Spam that hydra bind.
    - (Eleusis): Ellodin says, "The Fissure of Echoes is Sarathai's happy place."
    - With sharp, crackling tones, Kyrra tells you, "The ladies must love you immensely."
    - (Eleusian Ranger Techs): Savira says, "Most of the hard stuff seem to have this built in code like: If adventurer_hitting_me = "Sarathai" then send("terminate and selfdestruct")."
    - Makarios says, "Serve well and perish."
    - Xaden says, "Xaden confirmed scrub 2017."



  • XinnaXinna
    Kenway said:
    Exelethril said:
    Does anyone have the limb damage value of Acciacatura? Is it 60-70%?
    Doesn't add any damage, just applies epseth/epteth. The damage bonus comes from vibrato/tremolo hitting an already damaged limb and from my experience it does something like 55% of the limb. I just always open with trem and start counting from there. Makes life so much easier.
     Iirc acciaccatura did seem to do slightly different limb damage than other tunesmiths, but it got really confusing trying to count that while using pesante to undeaf and martellato to prone, so I, too, just did what Kenway said.

    Count # of hits you need + tremolo and use that, and don't use acciaccatura for prep (I only really used it for arm crippling to stop tree/catch passives/etc).
  • QwynQwyn
    You feel a violent yank as a force takes a hold of you.

    What's this? How to stop it? Had mass and cloak up.
  • KietKiet
    Isn't that mind throw?
  • AhmetAhmet Wherever I wanna be
    Kiet said:
    Isn't that mind throw?
    Think it's adduction.
    Huh. Neat.
  • KietKiet
    Adduction is stopped by mass, except the destabilize one which has the beckon message, doesn't it?
  • AhmetAhmet Wherever I wanna be
    Kiet said:
    Adduction is stopped by mass, except the destabilize one which has the beckon message, doesn't it?
    Not sure. I could be wrong.
    Huh. Neat.
  • LyrinLyrin
    Pretty sure that's golem destabilize adduction.
  • MizikMizik
    Anything that prevents you from moving voluntarily, ordinarily, will stop beckon/addiction destab. Off balance, hindered, etc.
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  • XinnaXinna
    Kiet said:
    Adduction is stopped by mass, except the destabilize one which has the beckon message, doesn't it?
    Doesn't the beckon message mention angel/demon? Wouldn't really make sense for adduction to have the same message.

    Whatever the case, Ahmet is right. That message was adduction destab.
  • DunnDunn
    That's adduction destab (beckon).

    Source: Magi second class


  • KietKiet
    Xinna said:
    Kiet said:
    Adduction is stopped by mass, except the destabilize one which has the beckon message, doesn't it?
    Doesn't the beckon message mention angel/demon? Wouldn't really make sense for adduction to have the same message.

    Whatever the case, Ahmet is right. That message was adduction destab.
    Isn't beckon just "Your eyes glaze off and you wander off?" I mean obv I could be wrong (like I was here, hence why I was questioning rather than confident in my answer).

    Good to know it's destabilize though!
  • XinnaXinna
    No. How dare you be wrong about anything ever!
  • KietKiet
    :(         
  • AhmetAhmet Wherever I wanna be
    Xinna said:

    Whatever the case, Ahmet is right. That message was adduction destab.
    My favorite words :awesome: 
    Huh. Neat.
  • AradorArador
    Don't think off balance stops beckon, I could have sworn I've been beckoned like that. 

  • AntoniusAntonius

    Off balance definitely stops beckon.

    Results of disembowel testing | Knight limb counter | GMCP AB files

  • AquilAquil
    I spam writhe or satiation or something when I get out of a room that the priest/apostate had control in. Off balance definitely stops or beckon would be super broken.
  • CaliraCalira
    Xinna said:
    Kenway said:
    Exelethril said:
    Does anyone have the limb damage value of Acciacatura? Is it 60-70%?
    Doesn't add any damage, just applies epseth/epteth. The damage bonus comes from vibrato/tremolo hitting an already damaged limb and from my experience it does something like 55% of the limb. I just always open with trem and start counting from there. Makes life so much easier.
     Iirc acciaccatura did seem to do slightly different limb damage than other tunesmiths, but it got really confusing trying to count that while using pesante to undeaf and martellato to prone, so I, too, just did what Kenway said.

    Count # of hits you need + tremolo and use that, and don't use acciaccatura for prep (I only really used it for arm crippling to stop tree/catch passives/etc).
    Acciaccatura doesn't do any extra limb damage, but an Acciaccatura jab will break a limb a few hits before it should. As others mentioned, it's not useful for prep. It is useful for applying a mending break for Tremolo or Vibrato to the right leg or arm, as epseth/epteth always do the left first.
  • QwynQwyn
    How does throwing (for a jester) work? I've heard that I can use that to augment my attacks with venoms. I'm not seeing a returning ability - do I need to carry around a lot of daggers/axes? Do people use artifact ones and articall them?
  • CynlaelCynlael
    get dagger;throw dagger at person
     >will pick up any dagger on the ground, and throw a juggled/wielded one.

    Only -need- 3-5 daggers, really. Unless someone is picking up your daggers when you throw them, in which case lol. Enjoy dumping gold :)

  • QwynQwyn
    Yeah, it seems like it might get expensive. Someone can take it, I could move (or be moved) to another room, I could die...
  • SobriquetSobriquet
    Throwing axes are faster,Ii can show you a little bit IG

    (Party): Mezghar says, "Stop."
  • KietKiet
    Weapons aren't too expensive now that forging stats are standardized. Just get cheap descriptors
  • DalranDalran
    Just go to Delos weapons shop and buy 50 at a time. Think it's like 10k gold for those 50 iirc? 
  • QwynQwyn
    That seems...imprecise? I can't wipe/envenom accurately if I'm using throwaways and vaguely sometimes picking stuff up.
  • SobriquetSobriquet
    Sure you can

    (Party): Mezghar says, "Stop."
  • AntoniusAntonius

    Tagging @Makarios so he can weigh in on this. Why the fuck am I eating goldenseal at the same time as focus?

    https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/8b07dbaf

    Prompt affs should be pretty clear. The green afflictions are the highest priority affliction(s) for herb and salve, and as you can see, neither of them are cured by goldenseal.

    Same thing in the spar before that, with anorexia at the gap at priority 18 instead, so I thought that maybe because I have batching of commands on it was getting to 18, seeing anorexia, and doing FOCUS. It was then assuming that FOCUS would cure anorexia, carrying on, seeing dizziness at 22, and eating goldenseal. So (as you can see from the priorities in that log) I pushed anorexia after all herb cured afflictions, but the same thing happens.

    I think there's a separate (or maybe related?) issue where server-side curing doesn't seem to take into account what was actually cured, so it sometimes wastes balances, too. Such as doing FOCUS/EAT GOLDENSEAL if you have confusion and stupidity, then the FOCUS cures stupidity rather than confusion and the goldenseal is wasted (along with herb balance).

    Results of disembowel testing | Knight limb counter | GMCP AB files

  • SzanthaxSzanthax San Diego
    Antonius said:

    Tagging @Makarios so he can weigh in on this. Why the fuck am I eating goldenseal at the same time as focus?

    https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/8b07dbaf

    Prompt affs should be pretty clear. The green afflictions are the highest priority affliction(s) for herb and salve, and as you can see, neither of them are cured by goldenseal.

    Same thing in the spar before that, with anorexia at the gap at priority 18 instead, so I thought that maybe because I have batching of commands on it was getting to 18, seeing anorexia, and doing FOCUS. It was then assuming that FOCUS would cure anorexia, carrying on, seeing dizziness at 22, and eating goldenseal. So (as you can see from the priorities in that log) I pushed anorexia after all herb cured afflictions, but the same thing happens.

    I think there's a separate (or maybe related?) issue where server-side curing doesn't seem to take into account what was actually cured, so it sometimes wastes balances, too. Such as doing FOCUS/EAT GOLDENSEAL if you have confusion and stupidity, then the FOCUS cures stupidity rather than confusion and the goldenseal is wasted (along with herb balance).

    I'll get weird things where I try to sip a bunch while aeoned with server side



  • JhuiJhui
    Antonius said:

    Tagging @Makarios so he can weigh in on this. Why the fuck am I eating goldenseal at the same time as focus?

    https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/8b07dbaf

    Prompt affs should be pretty clear. The green afflictions are the highest priority affliction(s) for herb and salve, and as you can see, neither of them are cured by goldenseal.

    Same thing in the spar before that, with anorexia at the gap at priority 18 instead, so I thought that maybe because I have batching of commands on it was getting to 18, seeing anorexia, and doing FOCUS. It was then assuming that FOCUS would cure anorexia, carrying on, seeing dizziness at 22, and eating goldenseal. So (as you can see from the priorities in that log) I pushed anorexia after all herb cured afflictions, but the same thing happens.

    I think there's a separate (or maybe related?) issue where server-side curing doesn't seem to take into account what was actually cured, so it sometimes wastes balances, too. Such as doing FOCUS/EAT GOLDENSEAL if you have confusion and stupidity, then the FOCUS cures stupidity rather than confusion and the goldenseal is wasted (along with herb balance).

    It loops in priority order I believe. So u cure anorexia at 18 prio and dizzy is the next one at 22. If ano is before asthma it would have eaten aurum there. Not saying it's right or wrong but I think that's what is happening on the curing there
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