What Penwize said. Was hilarious but juvenile enough to detract from the gravity of events significantly.
But again, hilarious.
They have to trash talk a bunch before the ref lets them go at it and they act out a choreographed fight. Otherwise we won't believe their contempt for each other is genuine. It's just like pro wrestling, except I watch this.
I like my steak like I like my Magic cards: mythic rare.
The part that I don't get was Sartan's first shout. At the time of the show, Mhaldor had just lost a bunch of fights and everyone was inside of Mhaldor.
I think genuine banter is probably allowed on the player level as long as it doesn't become some form of "griefy". Pushing OOC buttons, that is.
As for the deities, pushing buttons that way is a test of composure and resolve. The first one tovisibly stiffen loses, and in this case would lose faith from their mortals. I'd think this more common among the 'dominating' figures. It's like two rams butting horns in a field. Primal and sexy. Mwrow.
I see what you did there.
Anyway, I think it was pointing at the fights we won over the previous few days.
"Mummy, I'm hungry, but there's no one to eat! :C"
I guess that makes sense. But with worldburn and stacks of ormyrr, it's not realistically possible to raid Mhaldor unless you bring 20+ people, the majority being dragons. Unless you can somehow get to an area that isn't covered by a shrine or ormyrr I guess.
What Penwize said. Was hilarious but juvenile enough to detract from the gravity of events significantly.
But again, hilarious.
They have to trash talk a bunch before the ref lets them go at it and they act out a choreographed fight. Otherwise we won't believe their contempt for each other is genuine. It's just like pro wrestling, except I watch this.
In regards to the theme of the back and forth, you need to remember there are players behind the Divine, and sometimes things get adlibbed in the heat of the moment. Sometimes those things are amazing and sometimes they are less awesome.
"Trust in me, Universe, I will deliver / the promise that no-one shall ever / set their mind to games or play / for Serious Order is the way. I will not rest until it is done; / rules will be made for everyone. / They will know Order and its graces - and just like me, all shall be Greyfaces." - The Heroes of Sapience, Act 5, Greyface.
The writing for this event has been top-notch up until this point. Honestly, why did what should have been an epic back and forth of smack-talk between two powerful and dominating figures have to devolve into juvenile sexism and misogyny? It could have been awesome, but I'm just left disappointed. As an aside, as has been mentioned previously, if players made these sort of comments to people they'd be hit by the admin for intolerance (which Achaea's been pretty impressive about overall), so why is it allowed here?
If you really want to make an impact, they say a boycott is one of the best methods to get your point across. Hit the road, I'll help you pack.
Honestly, phenomenal job by the Garden and a big step forward in fact. I've seen nothing short of true top level conflict and head butting. This is to be commended and replicated by the player base. I hope that future conflict between the divine further cultivates shout level discussions such as the ones that we have seen.
I also hope that in the future that they really turn up the heat, dig down deep and provide a text based entertainment game some white hot fire, showing us even greater wordplay and insult capability that will make me feel like a noodle armed choir boy in comparison.
Nothing wrong with having a set of balls forcing your way upon others. Darwinism in action, and at it's finest.
I'm perhaps one of the few who actually liked the verbal mudslinging between Pentharian and Sartan, low-blows and machismo included. Those kinds of exchanges really underscored how much contempt they have for each other, in my opinion.
I'm perhaps one of the few who actually liked the verbal mudslinging between Pentharian and Sartan, low-blows and machismo included. Those kinds of exchanges really underscored how much contempt they have for each other, in my opinion.
Completely agree.
In a world that too often shoves the Disney aspect down your throat, the cold-hearted, brutal, -reality- aspect is a welcomed and encouraged sight.
Not only should they turn up the heat, keep the fire coming.
I personally didn't mind that much. I just had a feel that the Gods were angry enough to be a little beyond the insults you'd find in high school, y'know? If someone murdered a relative of mine in real life, I definitely wouldn't be trading insults as juvenile as "My dirk is bigger."
On the other hand, Pentharian's line about the gash was definitely a burn. Like, to the max.
I'm perhaps one of the few who actually liked the verbal mudslinging between Pentharian and Sartan, low-blows and machismo included. Those kinds of exchanges really underscored how much contempt they have for each other, in my opinion.
Completely agree.
In a world that too often shoves the Disney aspect down your throat, the cold-hearted, brutal, -reality- aspect is a welcomed and encouraged sight.
Not only should they turn up the heat, keep the fire coming.
Achaea's a Greek setting. Greek Gods were anything but mature, rational people. I suppose you could argue that such banter is "beneath" Pentharian as the God of Valour, but from what I know, Sartan's always had that willingness to sucker-punch you with off-handed insults. I like that the Gods are shouting again, letting us know that they're just as pissed as we are about what's going on, and it made me laugh to boot.
-- Grounded in but one perspective, what we perceive is an exaggeration of the truth.
The rhythms of battle take your breath away as the
tumultuous voice of Matsuhama, God of Combat echoes overhead, "I notice
you didn't chime into accept my challenge, Sartan. Be the good little choir
girl you are and go back to your room."
^Quote from way way back. This kind of banter has been going on since a long time before. Maybe it's just us but it's a callback to more entertaining times.
That's the thing. Gods in fantasy settings sometimes act like petty,powerhungry children. Expecting them to sit down and talk like adults is actually boring.
Achaea's a Greek setting. Greek Gods were anything but mature, rational people. I suppose you could argue that such banter is "beneath" Pentharian as the God of Valour, but from what I know, Sartan's always had that willingness to sucker-punch you with off-handed insults. I like that the Gods are shouting again, letting us know that they're just as pissed as we are about what's going on, and it made me laugh to boot.
Then again, Pentharian was more than pissed when Miramar and co. died. Was pleasantly surprised that he can at least throw down some below-the-belt verbal jabs when pushed too far.
Achaea's a Greek setting. Greek Gods were anything but mature, rational people. I suppose you could argue that such banter is "beneath" Pentharian as the God of Valour, but from what I know, Sartan's always had that willingness to sucker-punch you with off-handed insults. I like that the Gods are shouting again, letting us know that they're just as pissed as we are about what's going on, and it made me laugh to boot.
Then again, Pentharian was more than pissed when Miramar and co. died. Was pleasantly surprised that he can at least throw down some below-the-belt verbal jabs when pushed too far.
Below the belt in more ways than with the offhanded comment made to Sartan...
"Faded away like the stars in the morning, Losing their light in the glorious sun, Thus would we pass from this earth and its toiling, Only remembered for what we have done."
Greek Gods were also in favour of turning into animals to knock up their pretty ladies. We've yet to witness that!
No, I'm not volunteering. Not even for more two-headed ogre spawn.
(D.M.A.): Cooper says, "Kyrra is either the most innocent person in the world, or the girl who uses the most innuendo seemingly unintentionally but really on purpose."
The writing for this event has been top-notch up until this point. Honestly, why did what should have been an epic back and forth of smack-talk between two powerful and dominating figures have to devolve into juvenile sexism and misogyny? It could have been awesome, but I'm just left disappointed. As an aside, as has been mentioned previously, if players made these sort of comments to people they'd be hit by the admin for intolerance (which Achaea's been pretty impressive about overall), so why is it allowed here?
BAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. TELNET:30.1.5.1781 The Disney MUD!
Here penwize, let me ...-gets out a hankey- blow your nose honey! Do not cry now, there there. -Burps him-
Achaea's a Greek setting. Greek Gods were anything but mature, rational people.
by that logic, and Scarlatti's shouts....Scarlatti=Zeus? /:)
I actually think Scarlatti's taking a rather mature stance about this albeit with the irreverence of an artist...but I'm a biased fanboy. What do I know? :P
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*world shattering events occur*
"I killed your sister."
"I killed your brother."
"But you don't have genitals."
"I will let people use your head as a toilet."
"That's stupid."
"You're stupid and your brother was a chick."
*enter Scarlatti*
"I GET MORE WOMEN THAN YOU."
They have to trash talk a bunch before the ref lets them go at it and they act out a choreographed fight. Otherwise we won't believe their contempt for each other is genuine.
It's just like pro wrestling, except I watch this.
I see what you did there.
Anyway, I think it was pointing at the fights we won over the previous few days.
If you really want to make an impact, they say a boycott is one of the best methods to get your point across. Hit the road, I'll help you pack.
Honestly, phenomenal job by the Garden and a big step forward in fact. I've seen nothing short of true top level conflict and head butting. This is to be commended and replicated by the player base. I hope that future conflict between the divine further cultivates shout level discussions such as the ones that we have seen.
I also hope that in the future that they really turn up the heat, dig down deep and provide a text based entertainment game some white hot fire, showing us even greater wordplay and insult capability that will make me feel like a noodle armed choir boy in comparison.
Nothing wrong with having a set of balls forcing your way upon others. Darwinism in action, and at it's finest.
Completely agree.
In a world that too often shoves the Disney aspect down your throat, the cold-hearted, brutal, -reality- aspect is a welcomed and encouraged sight.
Not only should they turn up the heat, keep the fire coming.
^Quote from way way back. This kind of banter has been going on since a long time before. Maybe it's just us but it's a callback to more entertaining times.
Losing their light in the glorious sun,
Thus would we pass from this earth and its toiling,
Only remembered for what we have done."
No, I'm not volunteering. Not even for more two-headed ogre spawn.
And speaking of trashtalking, I just thought I'd share this totally irrelevant log that shows you how true trash-talking is done, Achaea style.
Here penwize, let me ...-gets out a hankey- blow your nose honey! Do not cry now, there there. -Burps him-
I actually think Scarlatti's taking a rather mature stance about this albeit with the irreverence of an artist...but I'm a biased fanboy. What do I know? :P