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  • VayneVayne Rhode Island

    Like Dform.

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  • SenaSena
    @Aelios That would be pretty worthless in Achaea, because combat is generally balanced around having all your class skills. Some classes are practically helpless without their trans abilities, and most are at least crippled by the loss. And that's just the final ability in each skill, losing 20% would be a lot worse.
  • JukilianJukilian

    Didn't @Sarapis say that it was a switching thing like dform? That's what comes to my mind, at least.

  • BluefBluef Delos

    The way multiclass works in other IRE games is you have to "unlearn" and "remember" your multiclass skills at a denizen tutor. The whole process only takes like 10 minutes but it is long enough so that you can't be mid-fight with someone and suddenly change from runewarden to serpent or anything amid the flow of combat. 

  • AeliosAelios
    Sena said:
    @Aelios That would be pretty worthless in Achaea, because combat is generally balanced around having all your class skills. Some classes are practically helpless without their trans abilities, and most are at least crippled by the loss. And that's just the final ability in each skill, losing 20% would be a lot worse.

    I agree -- things would have to be overhauled a little bit on each class, as I expect. 


    A rather popular pay-to-play Mud does it similar to all but the top 4 abilities, I believe? Each of those are quite useful, mind you, but not completely crippling.


    It'd be like Monk Kaido being able to do everything except deliverance and banish

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  • NimNim
    Sena said:
    @Aelios That would be pretty worthless in Achaea, because combat is generally balanced around having all your class skills. Some classes are practically helpless without their trans abilities, and most are at least crippled by the loss. And that's just the final ability in each skill, losing 20% would be a lot worse.

    Just to nitpick, since it sounds very much like multiclass will be Dragonform II: More Classes Edition and not some blend, it's more accurate to say it would be worthless in Achaea right now. That doesn't really mean @Aelios's thoughts are wrong conceptually - just that it would take even more work to make them happen... which may be why it won't happen like that.

  • HanleyHanley

    @Tecton I was looking at the 'Terraforming Updates' and one thing crossed my mind... if you take Venom from Serpents, do they still have the right to be called 'Serpents'? Wouldn't they just be thieves and assassins instead? I mean, they won't be able to secrete venoms, bite with venoms, or anything remotely serpent-like, save for growing scales and weaving... and rattling... but that's beside the point! Venoms man, VENOMS!

    - 2014/05/13 03:37:22 - Jhui dies gasping for breath, asphyxiated by the power of Hanley Silverstorm's kai.


    SerpentKai Go!

  • KlendathuKlendathu Eye of the Storm

    Mr @Sarapis and Mr @Tecton‌ : could we plebs (eg non leaders) have an update on the approximate progress, perhaps with some estimated timescales of when cities will start / finish their renaissance? Thank you kindly


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  • JukilianJukilian

    Or at least when we could expect Mhaldor to be done. I don't think it's realistic to say when the future cities will start/finish.

  • KorbenKorben

    It took Cyrene about 30 days to get theirs done. Think about it. Cyrene.

  • KakotasKakotas

    Kinda sad that I still can't do Sylvan Paladin because I've always wanted to do that... Stormhammer DSL's would stink...

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  • AodfionnAodfionn Seattle, WA

    Oh man, Paladin Blademaster or Paladin magi... RP potential is limitless

    Aurora says, "Are you drunk, Aodfionn?"
  • OuraniaOurania The Garden of the Gods
    Tecton said:
    Yes, still powering through. As I mentioned earlier in the thread, we're not going to rush this and do a half-assed job, so it's going to take a little time!


  • JacenJacen
    Sarapis said:
    Klendathu said:

    Mr @Sarapis and Mr @Tecton‌ : could we plebs (eg non leaders) have an update on the approximate progress, perhaps with some estimated timescales of when cities will start / finish their renaissance? Thank you kindly

    @Tecton is really the guy to ask as I'm completely uninvolved other than wishing it was already done. ;)

    Mhaldor is, as far as I know, pretty firmed up and they're working on the novice tasks. Eleusis, I'm unsure about. Hashan has started but seems to be under the initial impression that this is about completely redoing the city (it's not). I've seen suggestions for things like a new floating crystal city or an underground city, so there's a bit of hopeful expectations meeting reality yet to happen there. Very early stages in other words.
    Just so we don't look like total fucktards, those ideas were originally put to us by the admin, and our questions in whether such an extensive rework was on the table have thus far gone deferred or unanswered. I'll take this post as an "lolno", though.
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  • OuraniaOurania The Garden of the Gods
    edited September 2014
    Jacen said:
    Sarapis said:
    Klendathu said:

    Mr @Sarapis and Mr @Tecton‌ : could we plebs (eg non leaders) have an update on the approximate progress, perhaps with some estimated timescales of when cities will start / finish their renaissance? Thank you kindly

    @Tecton is really the guy to ask as I'm completely uninvolved other than wishing it was already done. ;)

    Mhaldor is, as far as I know, pretty firmed up and they're working on the novice tasks. Eleusis, I'm unsure about. Hashan has started but seems to be under the initial impression that this is about completely redoing the city (it's not). I've seen suggestions for things like a new floating crystal city or an underground city, so there's a bit of hopeful expectations meeting reality yet to happen there. Very early stages in other words.
    Just so we don't look like total fucktards, those ideas were originally put to us by the admin, and our questions in whether such an extensive rework was on the table have thus far gone deferred or unanswered. I'll take this post as an "lolno", though.
    There has been extensive discussions and there is still extensive discussions about Hashan currently going on with the team. Obviously Hashan isn't an easy city, so it will take time. And as it is still a time away on the list, we have that time :) Also, Tecton was on holiday, I was on holiday and ill. Everyone needs a lil time to catch up with what they need to do! 

  • JukilianJukilian
    Underground City.

    Yes.
  • LinusLinus
    Floating crystal city in Lusternia is my favorite city. Yes please.
  • BlujixapugBlujixapug
    Sarapis said:
    Heh, the amount of screaming from both the city itself and those that want to attack it in the case of an underground city would be deafening. 

    Just buff burrow to parity with flight, and add burrower guards as a counterpart to archers.

    Or add like crystal-powered mining vehicles people can use to crash into cities and unload raiding parties, as the underground counterpart to naval raids.
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  • OuraniaOurania The Garden of the Gods
    Houses, people, houses.

  • BukariinBukariin
    Ourania said:
    Houses, people, houses.
    Is it intentional that houses now have either all combat requirements to advance or no combat requirements to advance?  Or was that a decision reached by a few city leaders?
  • AerekAerek East Tennessee, USA
    I think it's probably more a function of the Houses focusing entirely on their archetype. As time goes on, the non-combat Houses may add some basic defense stuff, and the combat Houses will hopefully develop more of a personality.
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