House Renaissance

Ourania

Bukariin said:

Ourania said:

Houses, people, houses.

Is it intentional that houses now have either all combat requirements to advance or no combat requirements to advance?  Or was that a decision reached by a few city leaders?

If you mean to gain house ranks, then I presume it is down to those who wrote the requirements (aka the players in charge). Sometimes there is divine guidance, but mostly it is player written. I've not been involved in any of the newer houses as yet.

Blujixapug

Ourania said:

Houses, people, houses.

Sorry but this thread is now about Hashan's revamp.

Twilight

As an aside, those examples were given by myself to stir a more radical approach to the brainstorming sessions. They were merely put forth as archetypes to help expand the creativity of those permitted within these talks, and they were not indicative of what would happen. Though, of course, who wouldn't want a floating citadel fortress of Darkness dedicated to me?

That being said, the focus is on the Houses; however, I don't consider it wrong to take a closer look at Hashan in general while we are there.

Bukariin

Aerek said:

I think it's probably more a function of the Houses focusing entirely on their archetype. As time goes on, the non-combat Houses may add some basic defense stuff, and the combat Houses will hopefully develop more of a personality.

I'm not saying it's a bad thing at all.  I always dreaded the "be prepared to talk at length about the history of x" requirements.  I know some people love that stuff, I can't be asked though.

Asmodron

OMG Twilight is here...and talked!

Asmodron

Sarapis said:

Mhaldor is, as far as I know, pretty firmed up and they're working on the novice tasks. Eleusis, I'm unsure about. Hashan has started but seems to be under the initial impression that this is about completely redoing the city (it's not). I've seen suggestions for things like a new floating crystal city or an underground city, so there's a bit of hopeful expectations meeting reality yet to happen there. Very early stages in other words.

How this discussion probably went on Leaders channel:


Hashan: We have been discussing it and would like Hashan to become a floating crystal city please.

Sarapis: ....that's not the concept we are working for here. You're thinking way too outside the box.

Hashan: Very well..we will accept an underground city as well.

Sarapis: This is a House Renaissance guys, for House remakes.

Hashan: Our final offer then, Underwater City.

Sarapis: Are you all daft? It's a HOUSE remake, for the HOUSES, not the city.

Hashan: Fine then..Houses dedicated to the floating city perhaps?

Sarapis *delete Hashan*

Jukilian

Asmodron said:

Sarapis said:

Mhaldor is, as far as I know, pretty firmed up and they're working on the novice tasks. Eleusis, I'm unsure about. Hashan has started but seems to be under the initial impression that this is about completely redoing the city (it's not). I've seen suggestions for things like a new floating crystal city or an underground city, so there's a bit of hopeful expectations meeting reality yet to happen there. Very early stages in other words.

How this discussion probably went on Leaders channel:


Hashan: We have been discussing it and would like Hashan to become a floating crystal city please.

Sarapis: ....that's not the concept we are working for here. You're thinking way too outside the box.

Hashan: Very well..we will accept an underground city as well.

Sarapis: This is a House Renaissance guys, for House remakes.

Hashan: Our final offer then, Underwater City.

Sarapis: Are you all daft? It's a HOUSE remake, for the HOUSES, not the city.

Hashan: Fine then..Houses dedicated to the floating city perhaps?

Sarapis *delete Hashan*

Except for the part that it didn't happen that way in the slightest, according to those actually involved in the process (see: responses from those involved in the process)

Nim

I might also be flagrantly making things up in hopes that people find them amusing, but it does in fact sound more like it went:

(Gods) @Ourania says, "So, house revisions..."

(Gods) @Twilight says, "What if we just made the whole city noir and shadowy?"

(Gods) Ourania says, "No, too obvious. Let's make it crystaline. Oh, oh, and floating!"

(Gods) Twilight says, "No way, that's too bright and cheerful... wait, what if it were underground?"

(Gods) Ourania says, "So, like Moghedu? That's kind of drab too."

(Gods) Twilight says, "No no, we'll keep the floating crystaline city parts, but we'll just put it underground so it's always shrouded in shadow, lit dimly only by crystaline refractions of dusky light."

This is now head canon for me.

Eld

Nim said:

I might also be flagrantly making things up in hopes that people find them amusing, but it does in fact sound more like it went:

(Gods) @Ourania says, "So, house revisions..."

(Gods) @Twilight says, "What if we just made the whole city noir and shadowy?"

(Gods) Ourania says, "No, too obvious. Let's make it crystaline. Oh, oh, and floating!"

(Gods) Twilight says, "No way, that's too bright and cheerful... wait, what if it were underground?"

(Gods) Ourania says, "So, like Moghedu? That's kind of drab too."

(Gods) Twilight says, "No no, we'll keep the floating crystaline city parts, but we'll just put it underground so it's always shrouded in shadow, lit dimly only by crystaline refractions of dusky light."

This is now head canon for me.

?

Aliath

Actually the underground idea have been floating around for years, the idea itself was brought up by Darkwalkers even before I made my char

Valaria

i like the underground idea... that why those guys who has serious fetish for those artificial wings going to have a problem. maybe there will be other new artifact that let you magically burrow to the core of the planet...  

Asmodron

Valaria said:

i like the underground idea... that why those guys who has serious fetish for those artificial wings going to have a problem. maybe there will be other new artifact that let you magically burrow to the core of the planet...  

An artifact to allow you to burrow already exists, it's called 'a chained mhun'. Specially priced in Mhaldor.

Aliath

Why should flying being a problem in a underground city? A cave can be big enough to fly in, sure as it is you cannot fly underground in Achaea, but that could easily be fixed by simply adding a new type of room or?

Bukariin

Aliath said:

Why should flying being a problem in a underground city? A cave can be big enough to fly in, sure as it is you cannot fly underground in Achaea, but that could easily be fixed by simply adding a new type of room or?

Are you suggesting an underground city would also have clouds?

Khairt

Underground cities can have openings to fly out of without an issue, make the cave hashan sinks into huge enough to permit normal flying too. I don't see it being a huge deal. I'd prefer a canyon city anyway, canyon cities are ballin.

Ooh ooh,  the northern exit could be all up/down instead of n/s; that'd be tight

Asmodron

So if im getting this straight, everyone is basically stating they want to bury Hashan and hide it from view?

Malorn

Asmodron said:

So if im getting this straight, everyone is basically stating they want to bury Hashan and hide it from view?

Yes. Yes they are. I think we can all agree that it would be for the best really.


That said, I'm of the opinion that flying cities are way cooler.

Bukariin

Khairt said:

Underground cities can have openings to fly out of without an issue, make the cave hashan sinks into huge enough to permit normal flying too. I don't see it being a huge deal. I'd prefer a canyon city anyway, canyon cities are ballin.

Ooh ooh,  the northern exit could be all up/down instead of n/s; that'd be tight

So uh basically another Cyrene?

Shirszae

Canyon ~= valley

Bukariin

Wasn't Cyrene originally an underground city too?

Melodie

Always been in a "bowl", surrounded by mountains. Was originally a deep, dark forest full of beasties next to the very small village, but that eventually got cut down and now it's just a valley.

That's not to say there's not plenty of underground caverns and crap, but the city itself is fully surface-side.

Nim

Malorn said:

That said, I'm of the opinion that flying cities are way cooler.

It'll be both, not just one or the other. A floating underground city above an endless cavern abyss. Someone tried to push Hashan into the void beneath the earth, but it freaking grew wings and showed us all, so they buried it and called it a day.

Malorn

Nim said:

Malorn said:

That said, I'm of the opinion that flying cities are way cooler.

It'll be both, not just one or the other. A floating underground city above an endless cavern abyss. Someone tried to push Hashan into the void beneath the earth, but it freaking grew wings and showed us all, so they buried it and called it a day.

You heard it @Tecton. Make it happen.

Khairt

Cyrene is a tranquil mountain valley city tyvm; a totes different aesthetic. They even have an idyllic mountain lake. Caveshan should be backlit by exposed lava flows or luminescent natural crystal outcroppings/semi-sentient fungus. 

I'd still rather see all the new houses though, the more extreme and divergent the better. Folks in charge get to remake the face of the game man, lets make it interesting. (And completed cause I am clinging to class by sheer will at this point and neeeeeeed multiclass ire plz)

Rangor

Plz. I will turn hashan into a city of trees. Then twinkles can turn it into caves+darkenwood.

Blujixapug

from beneath you it devours

Halios

Khairt said:

Cyrene is a tranquil mountain valley city tyvm; a totes different aesthetic. They even have an idyllic mountain lake. Caveshan should be backlit by exposed lava flows or luminescent natural crystal outcroppings/semi-sentient fungus. 

I'd still rather see all the new houses though, the more extreme and divergent the better. Folks in charge get to remake the face of the game man, lets make it interesting. (And completed cause I am clinging to class by sheer will at this point and neeeeeeed multiclass ire plz)

This reminds me of a castle tucked in a valley with a river/lake between tall mountains.

It's somewhere in Europe I think? So cool looking. The castle is like at the very bottom of the valley.

Asmodron

Darkenwood is a great environment for cultivating culture and theme. I loved my times spent there. It'd make a great place for a future forest community (if that was to ever happen).

Bluef

What's the latest? Is Mhaldor still being worked on? 

Achimrst

Mhaldor decided, they're fine.