Combat Logs

Exelethril

Nylian said:

And from the other perspective.  Don't think it was the same fight though.
Also you were late on the blow-my-mind thingy

https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/wj8xASz7

@Exelethril I like your call-outs...sans eq/bal. :P

Oh wait, alleviate only cures 1 aff? Could have scythe'd you there with rng on my side, if I didn't hugely overestimate the time I had on the break cures. Didn't stack force arm apply properly and just messed around with your wall for 0 good reason. Rookie mistakes

@Armali Yep, good idea : swk leg/arm force apply -> leg/arm -> axk would be the way to handle alch/dw too.

Armali

That's a little too slow, assuming you're integrating a jbp into the first combo. You'd have to prestrip deaf, though most people don't recognize/do proper counterplay against that, so it's not usually an issue.

Exelethril

Hmm, I could probably break both arms in brs then transition to scs at the end of the combo, so it'll be harder for them to run away.

kai trans brs~x/arm arm~scs -> swk/leg leg -> scythe stuff. Assuming they don't cure the crippled arm, that'll probs work.

Armali

That messes with your force apply timings, so you may find it a little tighter on the end there.

Dunn

Wrench head was my go to for people that held active cures. Or pre break torso/horse, wrench torso pmp jab head DRS force tree, sweep leg leg force apply, 3 BBTs to kill. I got a handful of people with that one. It's ~12s prone. 

Farrah

It's definitely possible to just scythe in spite of the active. It's also possible to just undeaf, swk/leg/leg/force torso, axk/arm/arm, imp into batter, scythe.

Dragonheal and head prio are the major scythe obstacles. Pre-wrench is usually necessary if going for wrench torso. I've pulled it off vs head prio without pre-wrench, but I think the timing was close.

Leviticus

@Exelethril

Also doesn't switching stances every combo take longer balance then just staying in SCS? Those seconds adds up over time?

Excuse me while I go around in MIR stance all day...

Exelethril

Thanks guys. Probs going to experiment with a different route that doesn't require pre-strip deaf but has room movement rng : kai trans brs~mnk arm1 spp arm2 jbp head/force apply head~scs -> swk leg leg -> axk stuff

@Leviticus - It does but some situations require it. Mainly for mind scythe or moving back to scs if you need to re-prep after a failed setup

Armali

I never did like BRS after discovering its existence. Should classlead it out.

Sayenna

Exelethril said:

Thanks guys. Probs going to experiment with a different route that doesn't require pre-strip deaf but has room movement rng : kai trans brs~mnk arm1 spp arm2 jbp head/force apply head~scs -> swk leg leg -> axk stuff

@Leviticus - It does but some situations require it. Mainly for mind scythe or moving back to scs if you need to re-prep after a failed setup

Why would you switch to scorpion at the end of that combo, instead of just staying Bear and hoping the room hinder hits them? Do you mean kai transition scs -> switch brs at the end?

Exelethril

Sayenna said:

Exelethril said:

Thanks guys. Probs going to experiment with a different route that doesn't require pre-strip deaf but has room movement rng : kai trans brs~mnk arm1 spp arm2 jbp head/force apply head~scs -> swk leg leg -> axk stuff

@Leviticus - It does but some situations require it. Mainly for mind scythe or moving back to scs if you need to re-prep after a failed setup

Why would you switch to scorpion at the end of that combo, instead of just staying Bear and hoping the room hinder hits them? Do you mean kai transition scs -> switch brs at the end?

I derped thinking about that mentally at work. Will have to kai trans 2x for it to work, yep

Dochitha

Go DWB @Exelethril.

Exelethril

Probs depthswalker next, after I can fight reliably as monk and a dashing artie to gtfo from @Nylian's chase

Armali

I've gotten away from blademasters fine without dashing, you just need to remember you can move more than one rooms at once.

Sayenna

I don't think you can dash when you're hamstrung anyway.

Nylian

Also BM can dash follow. :O

Exelethril

What's causing the difference between...

2x imp with 2x arms broken - https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/ZJIDsLJ6
versus 3x imp without any arms broken? - https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/vaN36WFK

Outrifted plumbum isn't an issue

Armali

What are we supposed to be looking for/at?

Exelethril

Takes 2 imps to stick imp with 2 arms broken and 3 imps without any, not sure if the broken arms are the problem though hrm

Armali

Nothing special, amnesia relapse probably just delayed one of the eats enough. You'll notice that the timings are fairly tight, so it can be RNG how many it takes depending on how well they handle amnesia and what lag looks like.

Exelethril

The amount of mind imps have been really consistent with the broken arms factor. Kinda scratching my head about that because amnesia would relapse without arms too

Achilles

My lucky day

Djenn's aura of weapons rebounding disappears.
 REBOUNDING DOWN ON  Djenn
Lightning-quick, Djenn jabs you with a rapier.
A prickly, stinging sensation spreads through your body.
The songblessing upon the rapier sings out with a piercing high note.
Wicella springs forwards onto you and mauls you viciously.
7h, 4315m, 25511e, 13616w excbk| - [sf(2) wf(2) ill sen dark add let] in|sw (Senoske) (-2435h, 38.
4%) mj in
stand
vault 136218
mj in
You take a long drag of skullcap off your pipe. (2 skullcap left)
7h, 4315m, 25511e, 13616w excbk| - [sf(2) wf(2) ill sen dark add let] in|sw (Senoske) 
You may eat another bit of irid moss or potash. (5.86s)
7h, 4315m, 25511e, 13616w excbk| - [sf(2) wf(2) ill sen dark add let] in|sw (Senoske) 
You are not fallen or kneeling.
7h, 4315m, 25511e, 13616w excbk| - [sf(2) wf(2) ill sen dark add let] in|sw (Senoske) 
You must dismount before you can mount anything else.
7h, 4315m, 25511e, 13616w excbk| - [sf(2) wf(2) ill sen dark add let] in|sw (Senoske) 
You pull back the reins on your mount and jump off to the in.
pt mountjumped in
The Chamber of Seasons (indoors).
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--- The Chamber of Seasons ---- 12:-11:-1 ---
A rune shaped like a butterfly has been sketched into the ground here (nairat: transfix). A rune 
like an open eye has been sketched into the ground here (wunjo: cure blind). A runic totem is 
planted solidly in the ground. Fashioned of pure silver, a silver pentacle has been etched in the 
floor. The Humgii of the Winter Flower is sitting here placidly, attached to a stout vine. Smiling 
serenely, Faeore, Oracle of Seasons, waits here. A thick vine winds its way down from above, with 
thin offshoots curling along the outer walls of the chamber. An unnatural darkness cloaks the 
location.
You see exits leading up and out.
You feel your allergy to the sun going into temporary remission.
7h, 4315m, 25459e, 13616w ecbk| - [sf(2) wf(2) ill sen dark add let] out|u (Senoske) 
You eat some irid moss.
Your addiction can never be sated.
You feel your health and mana replenished.

Sayenna

Finally managed to win some vs @Exelethril. I think we're like 12-4 now

https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/ttnw22uJ - This had to suck. I'd have followed the tumble as well if I thought I was gonna get a kill before they stood again.

https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/DaFME0zd - This went more my way.

https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/QqN8uCmh - Close encounters of the painful kind
(I dictated him shortly after, too - that double rebound in BBT had to hurt )

Klendathu

@Exelethril why don't you track your stances and only re-stance if you're changing stance? Doesn't changing stance off balance have some kind of cost associated?

Exelethril drops to the floor and sweeps his legs round at you.
Exelethril knocks your legs out from under you and sends you sprawling to the floor.
Exelethril balls up one fist and hammerfists you.
He connects to the left leg!
Exelethril balls up one fist and hammerfists you.
He connects to the left leg!
Your shield completely absorbs the damage.
Exelethril eases himself out of the Scorpion stance.
Exelethril falls back into an ominous-looking stance.

Sayenna

Klendathu said:

@Exelethril why don't you track your stances and only re-stance if you're changing stance? Doesn't changing stance off balance have some kind of cost associated?

Exelethril drops to the floor and sweeps his legs round at you.
Exelethril knocks your legs out from under you and sends you sprawling to the floor.
Exelethril balls up one fist and hammerfists you.
He connects to the left leg!
Exelethril balls up one fist and hammerfists you.
He connects to the left leg!
Your shield completely absorbs the damage.
Exelethril eases himself out of the Scorpion stance.
Exelethril falls back into an ominous-looking stance.

Not if you're changing to the same stance.

(Judging from our tests, at least)

Exelethril

Kinda lazy to track stance changes properly so I revert to a base stance, doesn't affect balance if you're switching to the same thing.

Messed up a few set ups by reading the tumble direction wrong, room hinder rng and always assuming you're holding breath after standing  

Archaon

https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/hcPwJ61Q

Any reason why I couldn't unravel him post-burst?

Armali

Enlighten cures on your own death.

Archaon

Well that's new..... and garbage!

Armali

I don't know if it's always been that way, but it's been that way since I started playing a little over a year ago.