Mhaldor vs Targossas

Iaxus

Re: seafaring, that ship battle tournament thing that happened a while back was cool. Could bring that back in some form.

Ashai

Serious note-

Once a war has been initiated, no one should be mechanically able to quit their military. That, or if they do, they should get a deserter's curse of some sort for the reminder of the war. Consequences.

There's enough time pre-war for most cities (not Mhaldor since we're all required to be military) to have citizens quit their military. Once it starts though, it's game on.

Astarod

Ashai said:

Serious note-

Once a war has been initiated, no one should be mechanically able to quit their military. That, or if they do, they should get a deserter's curse of some sort for the reminder of the war. Consequences.

There's enough time pre-war for most cities (not Mhaldor since we're all required to be military) to have citizens quit their military. Once it starts though, it's game on.

IIRC if someone quits there's a point loss. 

Cooper

Kind of struggling to believe that there is almost two more weeks of this.

Dominius

War is where legends are born! Who knows what great honors line, city improvement, ridiculous reward is waiting for all who endure! Go on and keep deathsight interesting!! Fight fight fight!

Rhuul

Rabble rabble, fite fite fite

[Deleted User]

This war stuff is already exhausting enough without having to deal with Targossas and Hashan teaming up. Why is this allowed again?

Thaisen

Syndra said:

This war stuff is already exhausting enough without having to deal with Targossas and Hashan teaming up. Why is this allowed again?

To beat Mhaldor at any and all costs...duh

Milabar

Thaisen said:

Syndra said:

This war stuff is already exhausting enough without having to deal with Targossas and Hashan teaming up. Why is this allowed again?

To beat Mhaldor at any and all costs...duh

This is most upsetting to the Book 16 bets

Astarod

Syndra said:

This war stuff is already exhausting enough without having to deal with Targossas and Hashan teaming up. Why is this allowed again?

Look I venmo'd @farrah $40 to kill you guys every day so Idc what your feelings are I set farrah on you obvs. 

Archaeon

remember when hashan was trying to pk targ at the start of the war


pepridge farm remembers

Aegoth

Love the new morale line!

Triumphant screeches ring forth from cruel daemons, celebrating triumphs in the name of the

Malevolent One.

Sobriquet

Syndra said:

This war stuff is already exhausting enough without having to deal with Targossas and Hashan teaming up. Why is this allowed again?

By Hashan, you mean 4 people, right?

Atalkez

Sobriquet said:

Syndra said:

This war stuff is already exhausting enough without having to deal with Targossas and Hashan teaming up. Why is this allowed again?

By Hashan, you mean 4 people, right?

Yes, this is true. Like you said in another post, though, one of them is your CL and two others are Regents. Hard to say it's "outliers" at that point, you know?

It doesn't bother me too much, it is what it is. Slightly annoying but it introduces some random wildcards, which can be fun to change up the monotony of the war.

Akri

A few mercenaries is one thing, but I'm curious if it's true a Hashani tank was armed (and disarmed) during a Targossian sanction. That part seems bugged, unintended or very very sketchy at least.

The alternative to that is having allowed Targossas to capture a Hashani tank to use against us, which would definitively put Hashan in Targossas' camp from every IC point of view.

Armali

Adrik wanted to see if you could arm a tank in someone else's sanction (why he would decide to to this in the middle of a war sanction is a lapse of judgment in my opinion) and surprise, you can.

Minifie

Arming the font seems to give open bounty for people to just dump tanks. We’ll see if the return happens and Hashan hits Targ, or if other cities start jumping in too. 

Atalkez

Armali said:

Adrik wanted to see if you could arm a tank in someone else's sanction (why he would decide to to this in the middle of a war sanction is a lapse of judgment in my opinion) and surprise, you can.

I wouldn't necessarily call it a lapse in judgement. They almost got a detonate off because our deaths to Targ charged their tank. Things like this don't get fixed until they're abused.

Armali

No, the lapse of judgement is that he should've known better than to interfere, not that we might've lost the tank. I've heard /plenty/ of bitching about Targos defending Eleusis to know hypocrisy when I see it.

Atalkez

Ahh, yeah that's fair. I think we've all been there.

Farrah

How is Hashan tanking Mhaldor even relevant to the war, though? It's not a Targossas tank. I can't imagine it'd help Targossas in any way...

I mean, one permanent room destruction, I suppose. But it's fairly minor. Mostly it was not intended at all, though. Just a spur of the moment thing Adrik decided to test on his own that presumably will be fixed.

Our general interference has been very minor, as well. Mostly just completing contracts. Mezghar has been attacking Targs. I've been attacking Mhaldorians. No one seems to take issue with Dunn helping quite a lot more. It seems like a silly gripe.

Kog

I'm curious to see if it counts that towards Mhaldor's score. A tank disarmed during Targossas sanction, right?

Minifie

Kog said:

I'm curious to see if it counts that towards Mhaldor's score. A tank disarmed during Targossas sanction, right?

Yes, a Targossas sanction was gained, then font was empowered:

2020/06/20 02:22:21 - The City of Targossas has declared a sanctioned raid against the City.
2020/06/20 02:22:59 - The city's font has been empowered.

So I guess the "if the font is active you can place a tank" ignores if anyone has a sanction, If we have 3 tanks disarmed, it'll count!

Farrah

Atalkez said:

Sobriquet said:

Syndra said:

This war stuff is already exhausting enough without having to deal with Targossas and Hashan teaming up. Why is this allowed again?

By Hashan, you mean 4 people, right?

Yes, this is true. Like you said in another post, though, one of them is your CL and two others are Regents. Hard to say it's "outliers" at that point, you know?

It doesn't bother me too much, it is what it is. Slightly annoying but it introduces some random wildcards, which can be fun to change up the monotony of the war.

Also, I don't even know what four people we are talking about at this point. I only know Mezghar, Adrik, and me and Adrik is not a Regent.

We did have that suicide rush with a couple others to try to save the tank but who whines about five people trying to take on ten in guard range? We were obviously and easily slaughtered.

Minifie

No one else has really (to my knowledge) as a faction intervened to a ridiculous degree, so I am inclined to think it was just a lol attempt to test something silly (especially since there wasn't a massive hashan guard force to help det 3 tanks), plus Mhaldor got a revenge breathrain so ALL IS WELL IN THE WORLD. Definitely can be frustrating in the moment though, but I doubt it was done specifically for anything other than a lark (though wish more eleusians were gathered for the rain for ULTIMATE CARNAGE :Sartanchibiemoji:

Cooper

Farrah said:

How is Hashan tanking Mhaldor even relevant to the war, though? It's not a Targossas tank. I can't imagine it'd help Targossas in any way...

I mean, one permanent room destruction, I suppose. But it's fairly minor. Mostly it was not intended at all, though. Just a spur of the moment thing Adrik decided to test on his own that presumably will be fixed.

Our general interference has been very minor, as well. Mostly just completing contracts. Mezghar has been attacking Targs. I've been attacking Mhaldorians. No one seems to take issue with Dunn helping quite a lot more. It seems like a silly gripe.

You're right that overall what you guys have done hasn't affected much.

It is frustrating to have to deal with, though, and seems to be a common theme of parts of Hashan and Targ to unofficially attack at the same time.

Sneak tanks are also very annoying to deal with, and now having to pay attention to multiple cities trying to do this just makes that worse.

All valid actions to take IC, but frustrating to players. I don't think you would appreciate it happening to you. 

Saonji

Farrah said:

No one seems to take issue with Dunn helping quite a lot more. It seems like a silly gripe.

Probably because Dunn is allied to Mhaldor, and in the process of joining the city, as Reyson's already said. City allies actually count towards the war, so why would anyone gripe over it?

Archaeon

sure is taking a while

Minifie

Saonji

Archaeon said:

sure is taking a while

Almost as if some cities have standards, rather than unenemying and immediately letting whales join not even 2 days after they were doing guardbashing/raiding sprees.