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Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
Where's my high horse?
The statement was an absolute joke.
Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
Take a look at all the Targs posts about Shallam to see what event precedent has set, I would say you got off lightly but that indicates that something was done wrong, When it wasn't. The last few weeks are the only time I actually felt a pang of jealously NOT being in Cyrene.
If you genuinely can't see the potential you have here then I don't think this place is for you.
Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
Really, though, I honestly ultimately think it all comes to the fact Achaea is supposed to be an evolving world. Its not like there will be a light-hearted-ness ban on Cyrene forever. I am not even convinced there is one now. But something happened, and that something demands, by its very nature, a slight adjustment from the people who live in Cyrene.
I really don't think it is as unreasonable as you lot are trying to paint it. You can joke, you can laugh, you can do all the shit you want or usually do. Just maybe do it out of the way of the people who are trying to process and come to terms with the devastation of their city.
And you won't understand the cause of your grief...
...But you'll always follow the voices beneath.
And I think it's ridiculous to tell someone "you should like this roleplay."
Like, I dunno what kind of roleplay @Atalkez finds in bad taste, but suppose the admins of the game force him to watch it anytime he's in Targossas.
And then, the kicker, when he complains, we'll tell him he's wrong, his complaint is a joke, and he should probably just quit playing.
That's disgusting to me.
This plot offers a lot of RP opportunities. None of them interest me. The things I enjoy about this game, including playing in a city that's out of conflict and where players who enjoy a quiet game are welcomed and can thrive, have been focused on hard by admin for this plot. I'm not interested in PvP as it's played here, which takes most of this out of interest. I had hopes when we got Cyrene back, then they choose to push the ambience to push people away from that.
At the moment, I'm close to agreeing this is no longer the place for me to play, as I feel admin is expressing that those who don't get fully into conflicts are not welcome.
I will have to live with the pain of knowing that "they" is going to mean "not me" to the same people. The loss is theirs, and will inevitably be a hurdle they'll either fall over on every single time this comes up (and it will) again and again, or eventually work it out on their own.
However, admins read these forums and have made decisions based on them in the past quite often.
I imagine that may even be why people on this forum so quickly attack any viewpoints not their own.
It came from a place of being frustrated that the admins constantly push grim events, make personable characters just to torture or kill them off, etc.
I always thought Aetolia was the edgy game, and that Achaea strived for more of a balanced experience, but it hasn't felt very balanced to me lately.
Like, even the Mayaween and Logosmas stuff has been getting reduced. We literally skipped a Mayaween to have the second blackwave.
I'm all for people having fun with dark roleplay, like I don't say we should delete Mhaldor or Ashtan, but a whole lot of people say Cyrene and Eleusis should be deleted.
Where the friction seems to lie is not a particular view even, more the idea that a player has a right to exist without being forced to interact. I actually can see someone who has been able to play a long time without having to do that being rightfully surprised and upset by the change, as much as I'd be upset if palusa was suddenly curtailed from playing and behaving as a Mhaldorian, but if there's a story reason, I'd have to sit down and work it out, probably steal a leaf out of @Jiraishin's particular book of zealousy (from what I've encountered!) If I couldn't, and I couldn't have fun, then I'd move on, Achaea's loss.
Take a break if you need to. Sometimes things just don't mesh with us aesthetically.
Cyrene has suffered a loss, and it'll need some time to pick up the pieces and press onwards.
Conflict in Achaea helps the world turn. Pushes the story forward. I'm not good at PvP, but I'm trying, and having fun along the way. Before that I was on the sidelines helping as best I could, cheering the others on.
No one needs to be a combatant to contribute to the ongoing conflicts. And I've seen you do your best to help where you can.
Every day isn't going to be clear skies and great fishing, but surviving the harsh times, sticking together, and marching onwards makes those chill days all the more sweeter.
Cyrene is the Last City. By the end of times when Mhaldor rules most of Sapience except all non-Cyrene cities have been destroyed and overtaken by Nature, Oblivion encompasses the rest of the world, Vastar has drained the sea and Neraeos has brought down the sky, Cyrene will have gone thru way worse than this and the TT will have peaced out a long time ago.
I mean... I've a lot of mixed feelings on this, and I'll be the first to admit that I've been out of line in my complaints sometimes.
I will still question whether or not attacking Cyrene was a good idea to begin with, mainly because, well, we've seen the player backlash.
I do think it's been an excellent source of character growth and development for those that so choose to take it up. I know that it's opened up a lot of avenues for Synthus, and there have been a number of times that he has skirted the edge of breaking down or flying into a murderous rage.
I understand that for a lot of people, Cyrene is their digital "home away from home." I mean, hell, it is for me, that's why it hurt so much when we lost it, why I fought so hard to get it back, and why I seriously considered walking away from the game if we were to lose it forever. For a lot of those players though, they aren't interested in combat, they aren't interested in the doom and grimdark aspects of Achaea, and I can't fault them for not finding enjoying in those aspects.
Telling those players that they should quit playing and that their value of Cyrene is little more than a chatroom is assumptive, dismissive, and downright disingenuous to them.
These are valid frustrations being expressed, even for a world as "always-evolving" as Achaea. If you disagree with them, very well, disagree with them, but there is no reason to attack the players for feeling frustrated and voicing their frustrations.
I personally don’t like some of the RP that I see in Targossas, whether that is forced sermons or the Harbingers trying to be Cyrene-lite. I deal with it every time I log in, regardless of if I like it or want to deal with it. It is what it is. Me liking it or not liking it is irrelevant. If it makes sense for the city, in that time period, then my opinion simply isn’t important.
The derision of your posts comes from the fact that, despite repeated discussion contrary to your opinion from peers and admin alike - you continue to complain loudly about the situation, as if things are personally geared to make you upset. If you don’t like the event that much, then check out of it. You don’t have to come to forums and complain every time a new somber ambient message is added.
I get it. It sucks, this isn’t how you want to play the game, etc etc. Thing is Achaea has to serve the entire population, not just a certain group, or a certain person. Can’t please everyone, and constantly jumping on here to complain isn’t helping anyone.
Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.