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I'm sorry but that's a bit fucked up, and is precisely where my criticism comes from.
The admins of this game themselves do not respect the idea someone might not want grimdark roleplay, so this whole "respect the theme (we set (to kill off roleplay we don't like))" is a bit weak.
You'll note I didn't say the reasons given for the quick return to routine were invalid. I said they were OOC and did not translate well to IC justifications. Being a hardcore RPer isn't the only way to play the game, and I respect that. It also needs to be acknowledged, however, that hardcore RPers have to be able to interpret what they see and hear from people around them (beyond a limited amount of handwaving, mostly related to mechanical limitations) in an IC context in order to have a good playing experience. This is also a valid way of enjoying the game. And when other players' actions can't be interpreted ICly, it affects that enjoyment.
Because 'serious' and 'light' players are sharing the same space, tension is inevitable and awareness of how each can affect the other is important. Respect should go both ways, and awareness is part of it.
EDIT: I was busy writing this when Babel commented and missed the whole subsequent exchange. I hold to what I said above: it's perfectly reasonable to want a light-hearted experience. But @Lenn, when you say the admins don't respect the idea that people don't want grimdark roleplay (which I don't think is an accurate criticism, by the way), and that the admin's statement that people should respect theme is 'weak'... It's their game. If the game is -designed- to be something and you don't like what it's designed to be, at that point it's on you to find a different game.
The soul of Ashmond says, "Always with the sniping."
(Clan): Ictinus says, "Stop it Jiraishin, you're making me like you."
And you won't understand the cause of your grief...
...But you'll always follow the voices beneath.
Player-built though it may be, it is not immune to the realities of needing to exist concurrently in such a world. This requires people to stand up in defence of their home from time to time. It is hardly the kind of low-key strangulation or shutout that you're suggesting it is.
I enjoy being goofy on forums. I see these pages as a sort of bar-like hangout where all us people who enjoy playing the same video game can relax a little.
EDIT:I keep missing new comments, damn phone data connection
The soul of Ashmond says, "Always with the sniping."
(Clan): Ictinus says, "Stop it Jiraishin, you're making me like you."
The world has changed, so there has to be some form of acknowledgment of that, but there will be people from all cities who do that as little as possible, as they simply don't want to engage with this. This is as valid an RP as those who are hardcore into it, wanting every bit of conflict and devastation as they can be part of. I think more of both sides acknowledging that the other side has a valid point of view would be helpful. Various postings on this thread along the lines of 'I'm glad this happened to Cyrene, because now they are forced into the RP we think they should be playing.' doesn't help those who want to enjoy a quiet game. Attacking those who say 'give me more of this' doesn't either.
For players who want to force other players into the RP you want, ask players of pirate characters how that works out in the long run?
If it had been though a nice little mountain fortress complete with a prison spire would've been nice - since killing people doesn't reform them. They'd waste away shackled to the walls, only offered baked goods to eat. Products of a lovely grist mill that turns the bones of their comrades into some decent flour.
The more troublesome prisoners need to be fixed. They're defective. Deficient. They're of no use to a peaceful society. So, with some minor surgery they're all smiles... sure there's a lot of drool, but they're happy, quiet, and very upstanding.
At least this is the warped draconic sense of neutrality my character takes, and is probably seen by the others as a raving though friendly lunatic.
Agreed that some of the posting from both sides has been counterproductive.
I disagree that piracy is a particularly analogous situation. I don't see world events getting nerfed anytime soon.
The soul of Ashmond says, "Always with the sniping."
(Clan): Ictinus says, "Stop it Jiraishin, you're making me like you."
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Eight years ago my hometown had large portions of it completely demolished by a massive tornado. I helped volunteer alongside my national guardsmen friends to sift through the debris looking for survivors and take count of those who were lost. Not even taking into account the scale of life lost in both events, but just little things like the skyline being changed after the destruction got to me for months. I was so used to driving around a bend and seeing certain signs and buildings there blocking the view.. that was now fully unimpeded. What was once a residential street ended up looking like a freshly leveled field, with the occasional structure standing alone. Heck, even our mountains looked off, because what was once covered by a healthy green cloak of trees was now exposed and naked, each tree snapped and laid low leaving it looking wholly alien from what you were used to.
I'm trying to push some bit of that into Telen, because he would be experiencing the same, and likely far worse. Walking out from the post office and looking over the fountain.. for centuries there was a clocktower there in the skyline. That is now gone and destroyed. The mountains don't look the same after the avalanche, portions of the city are buried under rubble. Hell, there should be walls lined with "Missing" posters of citizens frantically looking for their loved ones. Our sense of normalcy should be tenuous at best. There is a scene in endgame I'll reference below in a spoiler that comes to mind. I'm not saying don't be happy go-lucky and all of that. But please understand the gravitas of the current situation.
In endgame when Cap is running the support group post snap, he is talking to a guy about a date that he went on. They are trying to lead a normal life, but he says "He started crying about the time that he ordered the salad." The main guy felt he was doing a bit better because he lasted until later in the meal before he broke down and began crying. The movie did a bloody amazing job at capturing many of the coping mechanisms and the struggle of trying to return to normalcy after a disaster.
He also encourages people to be nice on the forums. There's a lot more nuance in the godroles than a lot of people give them credit for, and a VERY SMALL order that is one of the main villains of the game's history does not make it a push towards darker or edgier.
Dunn tells you, "I hate you."
(Party): You say, "Bad plan coming right up."
The soul of Ashmond says, "Always with the sniping."
(Clan): Ictinus says, "Stop it Jiraishin, you're making me like you."
Even with some tiring parts I've enjoyed this event (so far?) and really do appreciate the events posts that have helped keep abreast of the unfolding situation. I miss the rainbow bubbles already, RIP well of chaos, and I've also felt a tangible shift in the community, at least from my position in it.
Also, i won't call anyone out, but thank you for all the ongoing interactions I've had. It's been interesting.
It was not intended to be a slight toward the volunteer behind said character.
I'm fine if you like grim stuff. I'm just tired of the constant attacks on light-hearted stuff, and I don't personally approve of the direction the admins have been taking.
This is in general, not aimed at the person behind @Babel, nor even aimed exclusively at the character.