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  • TahquilTahquil
    I think at least 5-6 years you could get reporting. It was there when I made Varniis.
  • SzanthaxSzanthax San Diego
    edited October 2016
    Don't think it matters @Florentino...  just a  conflict  builder.  enjoy the event



  • PrythePrythe
    Daeir said:
    @Prythe I have it on both my wyvern and my crow - it's the reporting reaction suite from the package pet thing.
    Thank you. I am going to see why I didn't get it, or if I can get it now, given I did get the package when I adopted my pet. 


    - To love another person is to see the face of G/d
    - Let me get my hat and my knife
    - It's your apple, take a bite
    - Don't dream it ... be it


  • AsmodronAsmodron
    Daeir said:
    Also it doesn't really matter too much that Ashtan's shrine is in the caverns - you can camp the single exit leading in to the caverns pretty easily.

    Until you all hit that deliverance  :#
  • SarathaiSarathai
    Asmodron said:
    Daeir said:
    Also it doesn't really matter too much that Ashtan's shrine is in the caverns - you can camp the single exit leading in to the caverns pretty easily.

    Until you all hit that deliverance  :#
    Or Pit, which is the baseline Babel miracle.
    - (Eleusis): Ellodin says, "The Fissure of Echoes is Sarathai's happy place."
    - With sharp, crackling tones, Kyrra tells you, "The ladies must love you immensely."
    - (Eleusian Ranger Techs): Savira says, "Most of the hard stuff seem to have this built in code like: If adventurer_hitting_me = "Sarathai" then send("terminate and selfdestruct")."
    - Makarios says, "Serve well and perish."
    - Xaden says, "Xaden confirmed scrub 2017."



  • JarrodJarrod
    Previously it was buyable as a single reaction on pets for 25cr. It's been in the game for at minimum 5 years (I think quite longer). It's amazing to me some of the stuff people just don't know is a thing, now more people know.
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    Cascades of quicksilver light streak across the firmament as the celestial voice of Ourania intones, "Oh Jarrod..."

  • FlorentinoFlorentino
    edited October 2016
    Szanthax said:
    Don't think it matters @Florentino...  just a  conflict  builder.  enjoy the event
    I'm sure the shrine rebuilding numbers are all made up and it's being toggled by the admin who monitor the event anyway, but it's partly the principle of the matter. They have about a million structural advantages already, everything from their first miracle no matter what shard they gather being pit, to new arties behind huge paywalls every month (miasma, crucible, duanatharic wings, mindnet for non-monks/BMs - that one was 10k credits, remember?, etc.), plus every class they could ever want and the seamless ability to switch between them as needed every 10 minutes. The admins could cut the underdogs some slack and at least make them semi-exposed while relinquishing.   
  • TeshaTesha
    edited October 2016
    It's a pretty sizable advantage, as is being guaranteed to get the best avatar ability every time they subvert. It's important to keep in mind that events like these are very challenging to balance without risking over homogenization. As a result I've learned to try and enjoy the storytelling and have fun with the new mechanics rather than focusing on the competition aspect, because these events seem to be designed for fun rather than strictly fair competition.

    Of course, that perspective relies on the notion that there isn't really anything important at stake from an OOC view. Competition for things such as which gods die and which survive would make balancing mechanical advantages, regardless of how enjoyable they are, far more important. I think admin would be aware of that, and I would guess that this phase is more of a minigame rather than an impetus for the entire remainder of the event. 

     i'm a rebel

  • DevvanDevvan
    Jarrod said:
    Previously it was buyable as a single reaction on pets for 25cr. It's been in the game for at minimum 5 years (I think quite longer). It's amazing to me some of the stuff people just don't know is a thing, now more people know.
    There's a thread for that now
  • JhuiJhui
    I agree our shrine should be moved from caverns.  But about the babel advantage.  Only me and dunn get that advantage, but it is a strong one.  The serp army seems to deal with it pretty well when they care to try.

    as for the other miasma/crucible/etc advantages.  They really do nothing when we're in a even-ish fight due to the backfire nature of it.  They only give us a fighting chance when regularly we wouldn't have one.  Not so sure that's a problem for a game this small, but the complaint is valid.


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  • DeladanDeladan
    @Jhui I'm not in an order at all... so getting me to care has been really fucking hard this event. 

  • SzanthaxSzanthax San Diego
    I love the idea that the coalition is at a disadvantage because of anything. arties... got em... parties... got em. only advantage  they have is focus. (And skill)



  • DeladanDeladan
    Technically speaking the coalition is at a disadvantage, but not because of anything mentioned here. Jhui co has the advantage of only having to really focus on one shrine, where as we're focusing on 25903259347593075903 shrines. 

  • SarathaiSarathai
    edited October 2016
    Daeir said:
    If they burn pit to break the blockade, then they've used a splinter's worth of essence for the privilege.
    I think you get two Pit uses for every subverted splinter, four for a gathered one (from memory, it's about 450 essence per Pit).
    - (Eleusis): Ellodin says, "The Fissure of Echoes is Sarathai's happy place."
    - With sharp, crackling tones, Kyrra tells you, "The ladies must love you immensely."
    - (Eleusian Ranger Techs): Savira says, "Most of the hard stuff seem to have this built in code like: If adventurer_hitting_me = "Sarathai" then send("terminate and selfdestruct")."
    - Makarios says, "Serve well and perish."
    - Xaden says, "Xaden confirmed scrub 2017."



  • AhmetAhmet Wherever I wanna be
    490 for a pit, so two to four uses if they get a Babel splinter. Given that nobody with a Babel splinter should die to that lot, it should always be gathered, which means more often than not it's 4.
    Huh. Neat.
  • BannBann
    edited October 2016
    Nah bro. Git gud.

    Edit: @Florentino

  • KlendathuKlendathu Eye of the Storm
    Daeir said:
    It's only really like 2-4 shrines now so it isn't as huge a deal as it used to be. Boy did we waste a lot of shards on the smaller orders though.
    This attitude is pretty bad. Talk about blinkered.

    Tharos, the Announcer of Delos shouts, "It's near the end of the egghunt and I still haven't figured out how to pronounce Clean-dat-hoo."
  • CooperCooper
    edited October 2016
    @Deladan not sure how you can think the coalition is at a disadvantage. 20x as many coalition members online compared to the non-coalition.

  • AsmodronAsmodron
    It'll be pretty hilarious if it turns out that all the competing and skirmishing to get a shrine up wasnt as helpful as people thought it would be.
  • MakariosMakarios

    Oops, sorry for delays, I guess @Florentino posted right before after I left for the night.

    We weren't really too worried about closed temples - there should be a couple of these still around. Cities were our major issue (I can't really say why, it'll become apparent). I will say though that we are not adjusting any of the values behind the scenes. This is entirely on you guys - you'll win or lose on your own merits.

  • KlendathuKlendathu Eye of the Storm
    Daeir said:
    Klendathu said:
    Daeir said:
    It's only really like 2-4 shrines now so it isn't as huge a deal as it used to be. Boy did we waste a lot of shards on the smaller orders though.
    This attitude is pretty bad. Talk about blinkered.
    A waste is exactly what it is though. Must've lost at least a hundred to two hundred splinters total now across the smaller orders who have their temples inundated in the Tide.
    Depends on your point of view. Not everyone has the luxury of not just a large order, but a smaller order to donate their splinters too. I wonder if your attitude would be different if it were one of the Targy orders.

    Tharos, the Announcer of Delos shouts, "It's near the end of the egghunt and I still haven't figured out how to pronounce Clean-dat-hoo."
  • KlendathuKlendathu Eye of the Storm
    nvm, not worth the effort

    Tharos, the Announcer of Delos shouts, "It's near the end of the egghunt and I still haven't figured out how to pronounce Clean-dat-hoo."
  • LeviticusLeviticus
    edited October 2016
    Daeir said:
    Klendathu said:
    Daeir said:
    Klendathu said:
    Daeir said:
    It's only really like 2-4 shrines now so it isn't as huge a deal as it used to be. Boy did we waste a lot of shards on the smaller orders though.
    This attitude is pretty bad. Talk about blinkered.
    A waste is exactly what it is though. Must've lost at least a hundred to two hundred splinters total now across the smaller orders who have their temples inundated in the Tide.
    Depends on your point of view. Not everyone has the luxury of not just a large order, but a smaller order to donate their splinters too. I wonder if your attitude would be different if it were one of the Targy orders.
     No, not at all. Deuc's order is comparatively tiny compared to Aurora's and was one of the first to "vice" their shards to another Divine. They understood very early on that their shrine getting splinters (which were potentially a limited resource) would've been an overall detriment to the coalition due to the inaccessibility of their shrine and the active size of their order.

    You're perfectly entitled to feel that your own Divine is worth getting splinters for, obviously. From a purely mechanical perspective though, giving shards to the smaller orders where they could be given instead to the pre-eminent shrines that are getting very close to completion (especially as the Tsol'teth and the Tide build up their pace) is at best, inefficient, and at worst, a complete waste.

    That is if you purely view it as a "game". From a world standpoint, all Orders are obviously going to want to get their shrines back regardless of how large they are.
    You are under the impression that there is an actual endpoint for the shrines. I don't believe there is. 4 weeks of the same mechanic is grinding on us all. Especially when there is no metric to see how far away you are from completing their shrine. Aurora got from fractured to sundered. How many levels are there? Will the admins keep piling on levels?

    One Idea: I believe the Admins are drawing this out until the middle of November when a mysterious class comes and saves us from the Tide. 

    Second idea: The admins have stated that the coalition was an interesting idea and have influenced certain fractions (Targ, Ashtan, Mhaldor, Eleusis) to do certain actions, from the very beginning of this event. So I am sitting here drooling for when the tide starts to invade cities. That will put another stress factor on the Coalition. Will the cities focus on themselves or will they start to unenemy everyone in the Coalition in order to help each other out?? Decisions, Decisions. In MY OPINION, Daeir's mentality has been the exact mentality of his city from the start (I may be biased). 

    I also believe we missed something huge with these Avatar Powers. It feels like we are not using them properly... I don't know. But this shrine stage needs to move the fuck on, jesus it is getting old. 
  • CailanCailan
    From what Makarios just said we can gather that after the shrines are built we will have to fight on top of them (either against the Tsol'teth or amongst ourselves) which is why cities were an issue. Another possibility is that city areas are too big for the mechanics of the next part of the event to work (an assumption based on how the Tide currently behaves).
  • RangorRangor
    trololol

    Who                            God                       Status                   
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Jhui                           Babel                     Slumbering
    Austere                        Lorielan                  Slumbering
    Seragorn                       Vastar                    Slumbering
    Salas                          Artemis                   Slumbering
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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  • PrythePrythe
    Leviticus said:
    Daeir said:
    Klendathu said:
    Daeir said:
    Klendathu said:
    Daeir said:
    It's only really like 2-4 shrines now so it isn't as huge a deal as it used to be. Boy did we waste a lot of shards on the smaller orders though.
    This attitude is pretty bad. Talk about blinkered.
    A waste is exactly what it is though. Must've lost at least a hundred to two hundred splinters total now across the smaller orders who have their temples inundated in the Tide.
    Depends on your point of view. Not everyone has the luxury of not just a large order, but a smaller order to donate their splinters too. I wonder if your attitude would be different if it were one of the Targy orders.
     No, not at all. Deuc's order is comparatively tiny compared to Aurora's and was one of the first to "vice" their shards to another Divine. They understood very early on that their shrine getting splinters (which were potentially a limited resource) would've been an overall detriment to the coalition due to the inaccessibility of their shrine and the active size of their order.

    You're perfectly entitled to feel that your own Divine is worth getting splinters for, obviously. From a purely mechanical perspective though, giving shards to the smaller orders where they could be given instead to the pre-eminent shrines that are getting very close to completion (especially as the Tsol'teth and the Tide build up their pace) is at best, inefficient, and at worst, a complete waste.

    That is if you purely view it as a "game". From a world standpoint, all Orders are obviously going to want to get their shrines back regardless of how large they are.
    You are under the impression that there is an actual endpoint for the shrines. I don't believe there is. 4 weeks of the same mechanic is grinding on us all. Especially when there is no metric to see how far away you are from completing their shrine. Aurora got from fractured to sundered. How many levels are there? Will the admins keep piling on levels?

    One Idea: I believe the Admins are drawing this out until the middle of November when a mysterious class comes and saves us from the Tide. 

    Second idea: The admins have stated that the coalition was an interesting idea and have influenced certain fractions (Targ, Ashtan, Mhaldor, Eleusis) to do certain actions, from the very beginning of this event. So I am sitting here drooling for when the tide starts to invade cities. That will put another stress factor on the Coalition. Will the cities focus on themselves or will they start to unenemy everyone in the Coalition in order to help each other out?? Decisions, Decisions. In MY OPINION, Daeir's mentality has been the exact mentality of his city from the start (I may be biased). 

    I also believe we missed something huge with these Avatar Powers. It feels like we are not using them properly... I don't know. But this shrine stage needs to move the fuck on, jesus it is getting old. 
    I am also fairly sure we are missing something - I think that is why more Meld Shrines keep popping up, because UNWINDing aside there is something else we need to be doing.  Otherwise we're just Sisyphusing it until another NPC graces us with another "Hint."

    And I also agree about Avatar powers. The couple of times I have been an Avatar I have been tempted to experiment, but alas, my powers are not owned by me due to agreements, and the like, and the agreements dictate my actions after assuming the powers of the Avatar.

    - To love another person is to see the face of G/d
    - Let me get my hat and my knife
    - It's your apple, take a bite
    - Don't dream it ... be it


  • KlendathuKlendathu Eye of the Storm
              <><><><><><><><><   BALANCE   ><><><><><><><//====o
    You rip into a massive, black and white war beetle with your massive, deadly claws. - CRITICAL
    8358h|75%, 7948m|95% e|cdbk- 37% 15:35:07.840+(gut beetle)+
    You may apply another salve to yourself. (0.755s)
    9284h|83%, 8300m|100% e|cdbk- 37% 15:35:08.457(+926h, 8.3%, +352m, 4.2%) 
    (svof): Can touch tree again.
    9284h|83%, 8300m|100% e|cdbk- 37% 15:35:08.512
    A massive, black and white war beetle seems suddenly weaker, the aura of invulnerability fading. (20 seconds)


    So, how's that invulnerability working out for you then, Mr Beetle?



    Tharos, the Announcer of Delos shouts, "It's near the end of the egghunt and I still haven't figured out how to pronounce Clean-dat-hoo."
  • SarathaiSarathai

    I also believe we missed something huge with these Avatar Powers. It feels like we are not using them properly... I don't know.
    I kinda feel like the intention was for it to be a lot like being a Mark or Dauntless. It didn't really turn out that way, though.
    - (Eleusis): Ellodin says, "The Fissure of Echoes is Sarathai's happy place."
    - With sharp, crackling tones, Kyrra tells you, "The ladies must love you immensely."
    - (Eleusian Ranger Techs): Savira says, "Most of the hard stuff seem to have this built in code like: If adventurer_hitting_me = "Sarathai" then send("terminate and selfdestruct")."
    - Makarios says, "Serve well and perish."
    - Xaden says, "Xaden confirmed scrub 2017."



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