Svof

Keneanung

A bit late (as usual, I fear) to the start of November, I just released svof 33. This version features a single change by @Nylian which fixes touching passive tattoos on others during inking. Enjoy and if you want to contribute to the project as well, go ahead. If you need help for setup or locating the issue in the source code, I'll be happy to help.

Zekeros

Is there a way to stop trying to tattoo myself? I accidentally hit enter again and it started tattooing so I moved thinking it would stop but I ended up wasting some inks before I realised it was meant to keep restarting

Keneanung

Currently there is not. It's an open issue: https://github.com/svof/svof/issues/190

Cooper

I don't thinke svof needs the tattoo inker anymore. The in game ink command takes care of everything for you. I just delete it on every profile.

Keneanung

There are some minor QoL features that are not in the command yet, like queueing a number of tattoos (though I'm not sure anybody ever used this), but yes, there was discussion to remove most of the svof inker functionality that is provided by the game itself now. Someone just has to do the legwork

Ahmet

Zekeros said:

Is there a way to stop trying to tattoo myself? I accidentally hit enter again and it started tattooing so I moved thinking it would stop but I ended up wasting some inks before I realised it was meant to keep restarting

'ink none'

Dochitha

Klendathu said:

Dominius said:

Can anyone tell me how I can bring a variable of mine into the custom prompt of SVOF?

https://svof.github.io/svof/index.html#adding-custom-tags-and-colours

You can also create a script triggered off 'svo done with prompt' event and just echo anything you want after the prompt. 

Ahmet

Dochitha said:

Klendathu said:

Dominius said:

Can anyone tell me how I can bring a variable of mine into the custom prompt of SVOF?

https://svof.github.io/svof/index.html#adding-custom-tags-and-colours

You can also create a script triggered off 'svo done with prompt' event and just echo anything you want after the prompt. 

You shouldn't do this because deleteLineP() won't work properly, as well as a few other quirks.

Kogan

Anyone know of any prompt tags not in the documentation besides @battlerage?


Edit: Just running through git I'm seeing....  @battlerage, @monkpath, @monkstance, @monkfull, and @sunlight for grove users, 

Dochitha

Ahmet said:

Dochitha said:

Klendathu said:

Dominius said:

Can anyone tell me how I can bring a variable of mine into the custom prompt of SVOF?

https://svof.github.io/svof/index.html#adding-custom-tags-and-colours

You can also create a script triggered off 'svo done with prompt' event and just echo anything you want after the prompt. 

You shouldn't do this because deleteLineP() won't work properly, as well as a few other quirks.

How? Mine is working well for me...

Dominius

Kogan said:

Anyone know of any prompt tags not in the documentation besides @battlerage?


Edit: Just running through git I'm seeing....  @battlerage, @monkpath, @monkstance, @monkfull, and @sunlight for grove users, 

@fashions for vodun/puppetry? Everyone makes their own but in essence its like Kai, only allowing skills with a certain number, would be useful for starters, no idea if there is a way to grab it from gmcp..

Shub

How do I adjust the functions called on defup/keepup? Say I have one of my class defences on keepup, but instead of straight up sending it I want to call a separate function. I wrap nearly all my abilities in these functions so I can update balance trackers, count how many times each ability was used, etc. I can't seem to find the action in the script anywhere, hoping I dont have to dig into this giant embedded file to accomplish it.

Also, the svo got hit by event doesn't seem to trigger for denizens, trying to work out a decent systematic way to determine which critter is hitting which group member.

Shub

Upon further inspection it does look like the behavior I'm trying to modify does live in the external referenced files. It is a basicdef function in this svo.dict.lua file. To make defup call my wrapper functions I'd have to supply replacement entries in this big dictionary file. I guess I'm stuck on a more elementary question then. How do I call a function that I've defined in mudlet's scripts interface from an externally loaded file like dict.lua?

Vadimuses

Same way as you'd normally do, it all gets loaded into the same VM. I'd recommend raising an event instead of hacking in your functions though.

Keneanung

To add to Vadi's point: If you add events, we can work on getting them into the main project. That means they don't get lost with an update and other people can use the changes as well.

Shub

Very helpful thank you,

So here is my plan:
I'm adding a 'controlled balance loss' flag to all my wrapper functions. That way when I respond to a balance lost svo event, if I have the flag I can start a timer with a known value, if not I'll start one with a different color and a guessed value. That will get me well behaved timers until I can get these event raising hooks into a future svo version. Over time I should be able to make wrappers for most abilities, leaving only the various stuns and disruptions for uncontrolled balance loss timers.

Then, I'll clean up my balance/cooldowns/usage tracker to a release-able state and share it. To do that I'll have to fix my balances/abilities table alot. Right now I just hand-fill the balance times my character experiences for every action. I'll need to supply the 'standard' balance times for everything, then detect nimble/quick-witted/diadem/afflictions and apply multipliers to those standards for the timers. I'll also have to expand the table to include abilities outside of my own class. (so I probably need the class, trait and balance artefacts and a crap ton of lessons to accomplish this unless I get some help)

Once I have a functional tracker in circulation based on my current setup of wrappers, we build a toggle into svo that can swap between 'raise events instead of send' 'raise events and send' and 'send only', perhaps those toggles need to exist for every ability separately. I like the wrapper functions because one of the actions I'd like to do inside them is to swap between 'svo.doadd' and 'queue add' depending on my ping time. Or does svo already do that for me?



I also noticed another thing - 'homunculus look' is not triggering the homunculus balance loss event like it should, not sure why. maybe the resulting text from the look is throwing off the trigger.

Torinn

While we're here, there is a bug in Priest SVOF in the "Failed Seek" trigger.  It doesn't include "art" as an option, leading to errors when attempting to report someone couldn't be found.  It should be as follows:

if svo.defc.dragonform then return end

if svo.locating and svo.locating.name then

    if svo.locating.clan == "party" then

        send(string.format(

        "pt %s could not be located",

        svo.locating.name

        ))

elseif svo.locating.clan == "art" then

send(string.format( "art %s could not be located",

svo.locating.name

))

    elseif svo.locating.clan then

        send(string.format(

        "clan %s tell %s could not be located",

        svo.locating.clan, svo.locating.name

        ))

    end

    svo.locating = nil

end

-- You'll notice the "art" section added. 

Thanks!

Vadimuses

I've been seeing people struggle with getting Svof setup for tinkering with. Would it be easier if all of the files were all inside Mudlet like in other systems? Given the much better editor, this makes more sense than it did in the past.

Torinn

That would be amazing

Klendathu

Vadimuses said:

I've been seeing people struggle with getting Svof setup for tinkering with. Would it be easier if all of the files were all inside Mudlet like in other systems? Given the much better editor, this makes more sense than it did in the past.

A billion times yes.

Kayle

I cant like that post enough. Please and thank you!!!!!! @Vadimuses

Vadimuses

OK! I've got it on my todo list. I'd like to see more people being able to update the system so everyone can still enjoy using it

Herutar

I'm trying to set up a kata tracker for Shukudo using gmcp to recognize form then to transition if kata count >= 12 (or 24 if in rain). How would I go about doing this? 

Torinn

So for the time being, multiclassing is a nightmare.  The only thing I want to change when I switch classes is SVOF.  Everything else, my aliases, triggers, scripts, everything, can stay the same.  To do this with mudlet I have to have two different profiles, throw a whole bunch of stuff in to Modules, then install certain things that write files to disk per profile.  For example, Zulah's GUI doesn't work as a module because it has files specific to a profile.  SVO obviously doesn't either.  This is really annoying. But..

Could I, theoretically, have multiple different class's SVOFs on one profile, then if I switch classes, deactivate one set, activate the other, restart mudlet, and call it good?  Or will that mess up something I don't know about?

Kogan

Torinn said:

So for the time being, multiclassing is a nightmare.  The only thing I want to change when I switch classes is SVOF.  Everything else, my aliases, triggers, scripts, everything, can stay the same.  To do this with mudlet I have to have two different profiles, throw a whole bunch of stuff in to Modules, then install certain things that write files to disk per profile.  For example, Zulah's GUI doesn't work as a module because it has files specific to a profile.  SVO obviously doesn't either.  This is really annoying. But..

Could I, theoretically, have multiple different class's SVOFs on one profile, then if I switch classes, deactivate one set, activate the other, restart mudlet, and call it good?  Or will that mess up something I don't know about?

@Dochitha can maybe explain how. Not sure how he handles it. I know he switches classes multiple times a day and never relogs to do so.

Voli

EDIT: I apologize for the formatting of this post. The spoiler thing seems to break and everything is falling apart so I've given up and am just leaving it like this.

If you remove the <CLASS> SVOF folder from your mudlet profile and stick it someplace else, on loading up it'll request a class folder. You can navigate to the folder you put it in and select the class you want.

It requires you to restart mudlet each time you switch class, but it works.

Add an "if/then" statement to every single class alias and trigger you have, that prompts off an alias or trigger, that checks whether your class variable is set to w/e class you're using (myclass = "whatever") and it'll only use whatever aliases and variables have that class.

I stuck it all into a spoiler cause it's spammy @Torinn (I gave up, clearly)

For example: my Achaea profile only has AK 4.1, Bashing, Current, Log, Map, Map downlods, svo, and ZulahGUI. I cut Depthswalker SVO and Blademaster SVO and stuck those into a separate folder. Every time I log into Achaea mudlet, it asks me for one of those because svo requires it (I think) and I just navigate to the folder and pick the class I'm using for the day.

Every alias and trigger I have looks like some variation of this:

if myclass == "blademaster" then

  send("alleviate")

end

or this:

if myclass == "depthswalker" then

  if matches[2] == "s" or matches[2] == "S" then

    send("shadow manifest scythe")

  elseif matches[2] == "d" or matches[2] == "D" then

    send("shadow manifest dagger")

  else

    send("shadow manifest " .. matches[2])

  end

end

Just need to make a trigger or alias that does something like this:

myclass = "depthswalker"

for example, I have something that triggers off of keneanung's bashing thingy that does this when it selects the attack type:

if myclass = "blademaster"

send("position scabbard")

Torinn

@Voli That is really helpful.  Initially, do you install both DW and BM SVO packages, or just one? 

Edit: I think I see.  In my profile's folder on disk (C:/Users/<user>/.config/mudlet/profiles/<profile>  there is a Priest svo folder.  So you're saying you put that in its own folder with the other SVO as well, then it doesn't matter what SVO you have on your profile when you start up SVO will ask what you want to use and you point it to one or the other.  Interesting!

Caelan

Gmcp has the class info you need.

myClass = Gmcp.Char.Status.class
I have mine set to that event so I never have to worry about it

I dont use SVO but have 4 classes. And I recycle my aliases/macros with them so i do something similar.

If myClass == "Sentinel" then
    send("doublestrike "..targetting.." "..target.." "..venom)
Elseif myClass == "Runewarden" then
   sendAll("order entourage kill "..target, "doubleslash "..target.." "..targetting.." "..venom1.." "..venom2)
....
End

Dochitha

Kogan said:

Torinn said:

So for the time being, multiclassing is a nightmare.  The only thing I want to change when I switch classes is SVOF.  Everything else, my aliases, triggers, scripts, everything, can stay the same.  To do this with mudlet I have to have two different profiles, throw a whole bunch of stuff in to Modules, then install certain things that write files to disk per profile.  For example, Zulah's GUI doesn't work as a module because it has files specific to a profile.  SVO obviously doesn't either.  This is really annoying. But..

Could I, theoretically, have multiple different class's SVOFs on one profile, then if I switch classes, deactivate one set, activate the other, restart mudlet, and call it good?  Or will that mess up something I don't know about?

@Dochitha can maybe explain how. Not sure how he handles it. I know he switches classes multiple times a day and never relogs to do so.

I am using svo Runewarden as my profile, since I am mostly a runie nowadays. When I switch class, I'd detect my class and send defense upkeep into serverside curing based on the class. That's to handle defenses part.

On my triggers, I use a folder to contain all class related triggers. The folder itself is a filter, which has 
if myClass == "Alchemist" then return true end. < lua function.
Using this, I use a folder to automatically enable or disable group of triggers without using enableTrigger or disableTrigger functions.

for Aliases, it's what others have posted, same key for different classes.

local case = {}
case.alchemist = function () send("imbibe mayology") end
case.runewarden = function () send("say I will pulp you") end

case[myclass]()

So I'd use a table to hold the commands I want to send for as a function, and then fire the function at the end. The same can be used for aliases with multiple combinations like ^play(h|g|q|a|v|w)$, along with multiple classes, I handle it this way:

local Runewarden = {}
local Alchemist = {}

and do the same thing, assigning then with a function
Runewarden.h = function () send("things") end

Then we need to know our class and call the functions based on class and matches[2]

local class = {}

class.Runewarden = Runewarden
class.Alchemist = Alchemist

class[mylass][matches[2]]() --assuming myclass is gmcp whatever your class is

I hope this makes sense, I am not a programmer so there could be more efficient way, I just don't like if else cos they are too noisy... So I learned to use table, more readable to me.

Voli

@Torinn I use the Blademaster install cause it gets mindnet while depthswalker does not. As the one I have installed.

It's a nice workaround if you don't know more sophisticated answers. The only reason I did it the way I did is cause the DEF list doesn't change. Fortunately, my way fixed that for me :P There may be other ways that are better to implement though