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Passive aggressive smilies aside, Eleusis' definition of raiding typically includes PVE during offpeak hours. Is that what you would consider 'normal'?
I acknowledge that you have attempted to raid Ashtan during the morning (EST) hours recently, though. Only killed a few NPCs too!
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See Exterminations.
@Alrena I'm very much in agreement with you on the vengeance vs. defence argument.
I need at least a few days, and probably the weekend, to finish your progaganda piece, @Rangor. If the thought of pissing me off really appeals to you, capitulate sometime on Friday.
So what have both sides achieved in the war so far?
Seeing a lot of happy Mhaldorians, which tends to generate more and happier Mhaldorians. Looking to hit that critical mass, yo!
I'd need to know more about the growth rate of plants (this isn't very important though, chances are all of them would be staying at sparse), and the... ungrowth rate caused by people harvesting from them (again only for non-sparse plants), and how many herbs you can get from each plant level, and the number of people who would be harvesting from that room.
Basically, I don't have any numbers for harvesting.
Ah, so it's an expansionist war. I see.
Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
Assumptions of intent behind smilies aside(wtf?), it's a cycle. Mhaldor exterms/raids when they have their core around during US timezones and as retaliation, Eleusis raids when we have our core around.
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How is it hard to draw the conclusion that a smiley after a backhanded comment isn't just that? Not a logical leap.
I liked the other guy better.
I have to say though that that super fast turnaround by Maccabeus was the most hilarious thing I've seen in recent days. Props for having the bravery to admit it on public news, though.
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It's a matter of perspective, seems more tongue-in-cheek than passive aggressive to me.
That's what she said.
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Right so far, 23 Eleusians have so far said that they are bored whilst raiding or defending and 21 Mhaldorians have so far said that they are bored whilst raiding or defending.
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One of the symptoms of an approaching nervous breakdown is the belief that one's work is terribly important
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One of the symptoms of an approaching nervous breakdown is the belief that one's work is terribly important
Of course. Guard kills, room destruction, etc.
Does exterminated groves count?
If they do we're totally loosing, if they don't I think we're up a bit.
Well maybe its going to be like a real war, where it drags out and people begin to wonder why they are fighting it anymore.
Timezoning is only metagaming technically - what this is IC is a form of guerrilla warfare. You are not around so Eleusis is capitalizing (which is historically effective).
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One of the symptoms of an approaching nervous breakdown is the belief that one's work is terribly important
Exterms probably don't count since Eleusis has no counter. Maybe add +1 to an imaginary counter for every 12 seconds spent in a room on the isle.
This conflict can be summarized quite easily:
I think it is important to note that the reason Eleusis raids off peak isn't a guerilla warfare tactic, but the complete and utter impossibility that Eleusis will raid without their fearless General.
The major difference is Mhaldor has a few leaders (see: @Hasar, @Xer, @Micositu, @Crixos, even @Vicious) that are more than willing (and have) lead parties into Eleusis and even sanctioned raids. Haven't always tanked or guard wiped, but neither has Eleusis without Rangor really.
Timezoning isn't metagaming, you can't just say to yourself. "I won't go to work or have a life until this war is over"
Also, there are plenty of ways to play a war, unfortunately none of them matter very much in the absence of a war system! As in usual conflicts, guard raids and room destruction construe as part of the equation, as do shrine destructions. Shrine warfare is dumb, though, but nonetheless still count as targets during a war, like exterminations do.
The only player-dependent difference from war and a normal conflict is that war should create tools that encourages a stronger, more dynamic roleplay potential between city-states that would be tangible enough to affect one's personal playing experience.
The latter is never going to happen if the other party refuses to enter the jeep for a trip together in the African wilds.
Addendum: Having experienced war in the Aetolian context as well, I don't get why the above is so hard to achieve in Achaea. It might possibly be the fact that clear win/lose conditions are involved in their war systems, revolving around plausible territory control and indisputable winning moves.
I don't think it's fair to say that there's no such thing as metagaming timezones, but it's also a completely legitimate reality of an online MUD played internationally, and it's pretty difficult to honestly differentiate 'metagaming' from 'unusual lifestyle/schedule'.
People play from different timezones, or during different times of day. Sometimes those times don't line up conveniently for everyone. Not something worth complaining about.