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Astarod said:
You guys are missing the point. I'm not saying X city is dumb for Y behavior. That's applicable to all cities. I'm saying that it's kinda boring to just have people alternate fragments on guard stacks when they die/qq/lose fragments. That's all.
Aegis, God of War says, "You are dismissed from My demense, Astarod. Go forth and fight well. Bleed fiercely, and climb the purpose you have sought to chase for."
It sure is ^_^
The event will continue on as long as cities are willing to brawl for the fragments, hide and prevent another from progressing it, which isn't inherently bad at all.
For someone who wasn't around (that's you), this is a pretty inaccurate perspective, boo.
I wouldn't know. I literally went out bashing and brawling with mine. Ashtan could confirm because they ganked me for them. Can guarantee Targ wouldn't be holing on guards with me around other than when we have to all suicide on another city's guards and someone has to hold them (like Adrik did last night). I'm just over the boredom. Don't care about "winning". Just want to fight.
Not saying it's just Mhaldor acting this way, though. Just that I personally am not treating the event that way, and think it's very boring.
At one point we had 17 fragments, and nada. "Need more" was the outcome. Thus far we've consistently held the most but it's just not enough to do anything with.
@Asmodron Also, you weren't online when there were groups of 15 people made of Targossas, Cyrene and Hashan running around. So there is for sure an alliance. Couple that with Ashtan's group, and we bountied over 30 new people last night cause of it all.
That love soon might end You are unbreaking
And be known in its aching Though quaking
Shown in this shaking Though crazy
Lately of my wasteland, baby That's just wasteland, baby
Aegis, God of War says, "You are dismissed from My demense, Astarod. Go forth and fight well. Bleed fiercely, and climb the purpose you have sought to chase for."
Oh, here come the "enemy factions working together temporarily for a limited purpose is always contrary to rp" claims. OOC, we were making things interesting because we were massively outmatched by huge guard stacks and Mhaldor's numbers. IC, we were working together for the limited purpose of deturtling Mhaldor, which made perfect sense under the circumstances. No one is throwing away RP just because you have to deal with the slight struggle of having 10 people die on your guard stack instead of 5. Do you ever not whine?
And you won't understand the cause of your grief...
...But you'll always follow the voices beneath.
Just let us win
Wow, Hashan isn't getting anything from this?
It's not even just that. Targossas never agreed to allow Hashan to obtain all the fragments, either. I made very clear we'd attack you guys if you had too many, too. So, ultimately, we're trying to keep any of our enemies from getting them all, which is really practical.
I don't know the RP that happened, I don't know peoples goals IG, but I'm going to shout and taunt IC about it because all my characters seeing is Targossas handing off a bunch of fragments of power to one of their sworn enemies, or protecting a famed occultist from being killed.
Personally, I find it a tad exhausting to always have factions team up against Mhaldor in world events, it is what it is. Not gonna tell you how to RP, or who to RP with, though I will act it out accordingly IG. But if your char doesn't like the concept of Mhaldor's "end goal" you probably shouldn't like Hashan's, Ashtan's, Eleusis' or maybe even Targossas' either, its always richer rp to justify your action rather than justify what your action is preventing. My opinion anyway.
Carry on.
Presumably the "stronger" factions would not cry so much. I'll be happy when you get there, though. It will relieve me quite a bit.
Aegis, God of War says, "You are dismissed from My demense, Astarod. Go forth and fight well. Bleed fiercely, and climb the purpose you have sought to chase for."
There's no need for this pointless spite thrown at eachother. We're already having internal OOC drama due to this shit, can we not drag it over to the "What Happened To You Today?" from an event that someone in the Garden put a lot of time and effort into?
It devolved into this because that's just how these events go. X gives Y benefit. Something MIGHT happen if we get all X. Let's make sure we keep all X away from Z.
This has been shown to always come down to this same scenario. A city sitting on guards/behind walls/behind everything to huddle and turtle behind lyre, shield, and reflections with steelmind up to prevent force. The only surefire way to break this turtle has.. once again... been shown to be an overwhelming amount of people all attacking the person in question. Avenues have been tried, they've so-far failed.
Seriously. I just want this event to be over so I can log in again and not have to deal with the headache/drama that unfolds from it.. and not even fun drama. This is just OOC shitting on everyone involved at this point.
This is a very biased view of the entire situation, though. Hashan and Targossas have fought over fragments. It is not as if they have the same goal, or are agreeing to funnel fragments to one or the other. It's a situation where both factions are utterly, massively outmatched by Mhaldor's numbers + guards and are simply trying to free up the heavily fortified fragments so they can then fight over them amongst themselves. Bringing that to forums and criticizing the players for "ignoring RP" or "poorly playing their characters" is just petty. As I said before, Targossas has no interest in letting Darkness get the fragments, either, and has not worked with "Chaos" at all. Targossas is also not dishonest, so I told Hashan straightup we'd raid them for the fragments if they ended up holding a bunch themselves. It's somewhat of a vague temporary alliance/ceasefire while Mhaldor dominates, which is tactically and ideologically reasonable. But we shouldn't have to defend our actions OOC or be ridiculed like we did something wrong as players for that.
Like I said, OOC, there's nothing for you guys to be upset over. Anything that's been done has at best moved the odds closer to even. No factions are teaming in a way that overwhelms Mhaldor. They're doing it from a standpoint of being much weaker at a particular time and evening the odds. So why be so unpleasant to people who are taking actions that make the event more, not less, enjoyable, if anything, by evening the odds, and which they are perfectly content with IC?