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  • AsmodronAsmodron
    Caelan said:

     We had a new recruit assigned a task.  "Keep the Sunderlands for a year."   We did it.


    I must have missed this...was I not logged in for a year? Do you mean engage to take the Sunderlands? Pretty sure you never held domain for longer than a few hours. Darkwalkers were also assigned to 'take' Siroccians. We could say they 'did it' too then..

    Caelan said:

    Krizal then went around when NO ONE was around, or just me, defiling every single shrine.  Not once, not twice, not even for a week straight.  The shit has been going on for a RL month-ish (well after the original task was successfully completed), including bashing the Temple when no one was around (long tradition of being a dickhead thing to do in a Temple - and just one reason ALL OTHER Divine have locked temples). 


    It has already been said before that we had all of 2 Darkwalkers that could even desecrate, and Krizal happens to log on at odd times compared to the majority of Aegeans. Blame the sun :/ . Nonetheless, we never focused on "No aegeans, let's go!". You're dismissing every engagement based solely on the times you werent around. You're being way too salty about it.

    As for the fight itself: It was a war, we constantly pushed to dismantle the objectives and force our enemy to surrender. The Aegeans were tenacious and we kept on going. We offered you surrender numerous times. When you did accept it, you then crusaded some time after, and forced the conflict back. You cant really complain of how long this has been going if you act like that. Your stubbornness is what lead to it taking this long.

    Caelan said:

     
     So the Seneschal that;
    *  city-enemied me as I was standing face-to-face with him offering a duel, because he dishonored @Aegis, just so he wouldn't have to duel and who;
    *  asked Eleusis for peace so we could tag-team Mhaldor together (while allowing his people to violate a 5 centuries old treaty/understanding and actively defiling shrines to Lady Artemis)
    * has a habit of talking shit while sitting in relative safety, be it guards, citizens, a ship, whatever... ;
    * decided to start talking shit from his ship about how the Aegeans were cowards..; 




    You came into my city, stood in front of me, insulted me and demanded I fight you, after I had told you repeatedly to get out of my sight, right after I made it clear Aegeans will pay for their actions. Yes. You will be enemied, as were other hostile aegeans.

    When you forced Eleusis' hand into conflict with us randomly, and then stated WE somehow violated the pact, when in fact you led the forces to defile in the first place, then yes I definitely would take it up with your leaders. The results were clear with what occurred in Eleusis afterwards.

    The Aegeans could not keep up defense of the Sirroccians. They had next to no shrines left. Their temple was defiled. Their own Lord had to seal off their temple and place mobs to attack darkwalkers in the mountains. I never said you were cowards, I implied you were broken and unable to defend your own lands.

    You can say you won, we can say we won. Frankly this conflict has become boring. It's true no one likes to admit defeat, but I personally was satisfied with the end result.
  • AjocAjoc
    I don't think anyone is actually 'salty,' @Asmodron.
  • SeragornSeragorn
    @Asmodron for the task in Sunderlands we recognise it was not possible to maintain sovereignty constantly for the duration, clearly that's impossible without having a huge team to defend it non stop.  For the duration of an entire year we did take back sovereignty every month in the sunderlands and defended it while defenders were present.  We got our tick from the boss and that's all we cared about.

    I'm not going to judge on wether you guys completed your task or not as I did not set it nor its parameters (and lets face it, I'd be biased), that's up to Twinkles and kudos to you if he was happy, his favour not ours should be all you need.
  • TorrentTorrent
    Hey give us who don't code some credit. I can't assemble a script to save my life! @Rangor, @Ainly, @Miriew and everyone in Eleusis that has put up with my lame butt have been doing great to include all different types of people into combat and we are steadily getting better. Heck I still get so excited when I get a kill and I scream, "I got it", then I die. I still have a lot of fun either way, even if I spam tsunamis by accident thinking they are helping when there not. (Shhh @Rangor) But we are learning and getting better. GO TEAM GREEN!!!
  • XiasXias
    Alasiel said:
    TARGOSSAS NEWS #1824                                    (05/09/2018 at 11:56) 
    From   : Political Administrator Chanakya
    To     : Citizens of Targossas
    Subject: Appointed Lumarch
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Archivist Alasiel Averial has been appointed to the position of Lumarch of Targossas on this day.

    Pretty excited. Also kinda nervous!

    You totally got this, no doubt!
  • GarnerGarner
    Got my hands on an Agith'maal card today. Air Lord soar is great, but doesn't work from islands or the far north, so having something that can instantly take me somewhere I can soar from pretty much gives me free reign over the Prime Material Plane, getting to the outer islands excluded. Plus I can take people to Meropis quickly now - soar couldn't do that. Getting back home is their problem, though.

    Now if I can just get a Nicator, I'd be happy. There aren't really any others I'd be interested in.
  • MathildaMathilda
    I keep disconnecting in the middle of fights because I want to rend right leg but I haven't yet gotten used to aliases :dizzy:

    pls give me back my alt+D
     <3 
  • MathildaMathilda
    @Vika

    YASSSS OH MY GOSH THANKS
     <3 
  • VikaVika
    Mathilda said:
    @Vika

    YASSSS OH MY GOSH THANKS
    I will assume it worked. Glad you're sorted out, and should hopefully prevent future self-inflicted DCing.
  • AsmodronAsmodron
    Took a group hunting, was surprised to find @Rangor jumping us. I was further surprised that my group retaliated so well.

    Later had a very interesting convo with Rangor about his motives. Much fun.
  • CaelanCaelan
    edited May 2018
    Asmodron said:


    You can say you won, we can say we won. Frankly this conflict has become boring. It's true no one likes to admit defeat, but I personally was satisfied with the end result.
    Much of this has been addressed by Morthif and Seragorn (and myself).  I still don't understand (IG or OOC) how you can claim victory in a 'war' when you never accepted entry into the war. You insulted Aegis, I was dispatched - shitty curing and all - to fight you in His stead.  You refused, I called you a coward and said I was going to hunt you until He was satisfied.  Hardly rampant insulting. Let's face it, you enemied me for lulz.  Whatever, it's led to some fun interactions with people who are interesting and fun, like @Astarod.  It also fits with me as High Warden despising cities, so it all works out for the best.

     Sure you took the Sciroccians, but you also didn't really keep it any longer than we kept Sunderlands, as we dusted the shrines regularly as well.  As was said, if Twinkles felt you did a good job, that's all you should care about.  Our temple was defiled, but as I've stated, I doubt the coders whipped up a gate overnight... it was something in the works a while. 

    Save the RP for in-game, but I will definitely say this whole event with the Aegean side has become rather boring.  Now, the Eleusian side... :D

  • AstarodAstarod
    @Caelan just talked with seragorn this morning. We should have a ceasefire, between Aegean and Darkwalker stuff, we're both bored and the only thing coming out of our conflicts are feelings of butthurt. Besides that, it doesn't let us focus on more fun and RP-worthy stuff. I feel like both sides fought well, and deserve commendation. Ashtan put up a good fight, but Hashan did well. Why not just leave it at that? I know things have been said, but this is what I'm saying, now. Thanks for fighting us guys, and please try to keep the ceasefire for at least a year this time :lol:

    @Seragorn talking you was really nice, you were respectful, and easy to talk to. I'm new to this whole 'negotiations' thing, and am trying hard to represent well. Good on all parties. LETS FIGHT ELEUSIANS!
    The Divine voice of Twilight echoes in your head, "See that it is. I espy a tithe of potential in your mortal soul, Astarod Blackstone. Let us hope that it flourishes and does not falter as so many do."

    Aegis, God of War says, "You are dismissed from My demense, Astarod. Go forth and fight well. Bleed fiercely, and climb the purpose you have sought to chase for."
  • MathildaMathilda
    I just want to chime in that most organizations avoid the WAR status because the rules are ridiculous at the moment and it would just result to "who can grief the other side the most". Even Targossas changed hostilities with PoM because of this, and that doesn't mean the city doesn't suddenly think the PoM are okay people.
     <3 
  • CaelanCaelan
    Mathilda said:
    I just want to chime in that most organizations avoid the WAR status because the rules are ridiculous at the moment and it would just result to "who can grief the other side the most". Even Targossas changed hostilities with PoM because of this, and that doesn't mean the city doesn't suddenly think the PoM are okay people.
    Doesn't hold up really when the fact is, Hashan has vastly superior numbers actively involved compared to the 8? Aegeans ever around.

  • CaelanCaelan
    Astarod said:
    @Caelan just talked with seragorn this morning. We should have a ceasefire, between Aegean and Darkwalker stuff, we're both bored and the only thing coming out of our conflicts are feelings of butthurt. Besides that, it doesn't let us focus on more fun and RP-worthy stuff. I feel like both sides fought well, and deserve commendation. Ashtan put up a good fight, but Hashan did well. Why not just leave it at that? I know things have been said, but this is what I'm saying, now. Thanks for fighting us guys, and please try to keep the ceasefire for at least a year this time :lol:

    @Seragorn talking you was really nice, you were respectful, and easy to talk to. I'm new to this whole 'negotiations' thing, and am trying hard to represent well. Good on all parties. LETS FIGHT ELEUSIANS!
    More RP Worthy? WHAT THE HELL IS MORE RP WORTHY THAN AEGIS?!

  • MathildaMathilda
    edited May 2018
    Caelan said:
    Mathilda said:
    I just want to chime in that most organizations avoid the WAR status because the rules are ridiculous at the moment and it would just result to "who can grief the other side the most". Even Targossas changed hostilities with PoM because of this, and that doesn't mean the city doesn't suddenly think the PoM are okay people.
    Doesn't hold up really when the fact is, Hashan has vastly superior numbers actively involved compared to the 8? Aegeans ever around.
    I've had this argument thrown at me lots of times, but I feel like it's still important to remember that Hashan's vastly super numbers are mostly of people who are not really invested in the combat side of the game, or people who are just starting out.

    There's a weird line of thinking where people downplay the value of skill, experience, and, let's be honest, artifact investment in the combat scene. Yes, numbers are great, but that can fall flat so easily especially against a group with amazing crowd control (rubble, beckon esp. the water lord kind, walls walls walls, boomerang, lust/empress, etc.)


    Caelan said:
    More RP Worthy? WHAT THE HELL IS MORE RP WORTHY THAN AEGIS?!



    Just off the top of my head: vs Artemis/Eleusis in the Darkenwood, that one definitely has a greater historical weight to Hashan. And considering the recent mini-event, conflict vs. Mhaldor certainly has the opportunity to take precedence.

    There's just no heft and weight behind the Aegean-Darkwalker conflict. It just seems to have stemmed from the anchors event where the Darkwalkers had to put shrines in the Siroccians anchor, thereby placing them in the crosshairs of the Aegeans. While that certainly might be worthy of greater development, it just happened around the same time as Hashan vs Mdor and Hashan vs Eleusis, and since Hashan is working towards becoming more factional, there is more appeal to fighting other factional cities, too.
     <3 
  • MinifieMinifie
    Mathilda said:
    I just want to chime in that most organizations avoid the WAR status because the rules are ridiculous at the moment and it would just result to "who can grief the other side the most". Even Targossas changed hostilities with PoM because of this, and that doesn't mean the city doesn't suddenly think the PoM are okay people.
    I do agree with this. I wouldn't mind war and hostile being separate, with hostile being the "open season" and war being something that increases rewards for defending/raiding but has a cost in comms that are necessary as well. Wars between cities, Hostilities between orders perhaps? I can't think of a "good" system off the top of my head.
  • TorinnTorinn
    Additionally, having mutual hostilities means that newbie that was around for the ride would get ganked repeatedly instead of just once in retribution.  At any time.  
    Deucalion says, "Torinn is quite nice."
  • MinifieMinifie
    Torinn said:
    Additionally, having mutual hostilities means that newbie that was around for the ride would get ganked repeatedly instead of just once in retribution.  At any time.  
    If hostilities were between order members, while war between cities, it would work out ok. Soldiers just become open PK in enemy cities to their warring counterparts to help push getting a sanction.
  • TorinnTorinn
    Definitely agreed!
    Deucalion says, "Torinn is quite nice."
  • XadenXaden
    Mathilda said:
    I just want to chime in that most organizations avoid the WAR status because the rules are ridiculous at the moment and it would just result to "who can grief the other side the most". Even Targossas changed hostilities with PoM because of this, and that doesn't mean the city doesn't suddenly think the PoM are okay people.
    Hostilities were changed vs the PoM cos they were never supposed to be hostile in the first place. Atalkez was testing and didn't realize there was a cooldown on changing back. By the time the cool down was over everyone had forgotten about it :D
         He is a coward who has to bring two friends as backup to jump people hunting.

  • MathildaMathilda
    edited May 2018
    gonelord RIP

    edit: nvm i found him

    Atalkez has bled out, slain by the might of Shieldwarden Aegeus, Shield Quartermaster
    in Ainghaeal's Nest.
     <3 
  • AtalkezAtalkez
    Farrah said:
    "Testing." There was nothing to test. Atalkez just really wanted to declare war on something. Sigh.
    If it wasn't for the pressure from some particular softie worrying about soldiers, we'd still be Hostile.




    Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
  • TorrentTorrent
    edited May 2018
    Farrah said:
    "Testing." There was nothing to test. Atalkez just really wanted to declare war on something. Sigh.

    Clans are horrible for hostilities, though, since anyone can join them at any time and membership lists aren't public. Orders are kind of bad for hostilities too for the non-public member reason.

    We need Order Champions plz thx.
    Yeah, Orders are bad for declaring hostilities, that is what we learned in Eleusis and had to drop it. There really was no other way to show efforts aside from kills, I mean we can dust shrines but that really doesn't do much in the grand scheme. Dunn did a great job in combat and when we had the numbers we did good, but it was literally running around in circles,  so we agreed that you know what let us just end this cause since this is getting us nowhere. I agree the war system needs to get fixed, as aside from actually kills there really is nothing to show for and for those not really that great in combat it kinda loses its lustre after a while.
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