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As for Lifegiver randomly resetting to a player who recently died regardless of age or experience, there's just no excuse for this to even happen. I think that decision needs to be undone. At least with dragon bow IF you know about it you can be aware to wield it, but Lifegiver is too random and gives no notification whatsoever.
In either of the above cases, the PvP and PK should not be forced on you, it should be a choice you make. Relics should be an option choice to go after them, not have them handed to you because you did something to make it reset to you without wanting it.
Some of you need to remember that even if you don't like an opinion, it doesn't mean you need to get on your high horse and silence people just because they disagree with you. Also, them defending "people who aren't even complaining on forums" is equal to you defending Proficy who isn't even here either.
Maybe a level requirement for the auto-pop to be 70 or 80 or something?
I also had no idea about the Dragonbow being given on obtaining level 99, although if this person wants to bash to Dragon in a week and not interact with anyone then how are they to know, unless it's not their first / only character?
Artemis says, "You are so high maintenance, Tharvis, gosh."
Tecton says, "It's still your fault, Tharvis."
The funnier thing to come of this - she died to a Tsol'aa almost immediately afterwards
Also now going to set up a 'RELIC YIELD' trigger based on levelling to 99.
I could probs make it such that he never leaves Mhaldor when I'm around without expecting to get PK'd by me, if he keeps that shit up
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Cascades of quicksilver light streak across the firmament as the celestial voice of Ourania intones, "Oh Jarrod..."
This is memorable quotes. If you want to talk about someone dying randomly, make a new thread.
- Delivering someone out of combat, four weeks ago. (VALID REASON FOR PWNDING NEWBS)
The rest is more like... asking for people to play games and have fun. Then punching them in the face the next time you meet them.
I don't know if it really worked this way, but I'm laughing at the possibility.
Ha, no I fully agree that delivering could be considered a valid reason (though there are many other escape mechanisms that rely on other people but the person on offense can't see who it was, example earrings, so there are arguments against that too).
But the way it goes down is:
- (Targossas): PersonA says, "Deliver."
- Helpful Devotion User delivers.
- PersonA says, "Thank you."
- Three weeks later Helpful Devotion User is hunting and gets jumped randomly.
- Helpful Devotion User asks wtf was that for and gets told they delivered someone out of a fight three weeks ago.
In that case my issue is less with the reason and more with the time frame and the fact that the first time person even knew anyone had a reason to be after himand why was after he was dead. Which is uncool.Three weeks later is harsh, I'll agree there. We normally will do it once or twice within the next day, unless the person does it repeatedly in a fight, then that window gets extended.
Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
Some people just look at it as another escape route that team Good gets, whereas other classes are more self-reliant, and just ignore whoever's delivering. Then there's that rare person who counts every single time as cause, and it's annoying. I've never really cared about dying for delivering, because I know what I'm signing up for, but those people who use it repeatedly over the course of a single fight/skirmish should at least give the city a head's up before spamming it on CT.
And those people who spam it like 20 times at once should just suck it up and take the death.
Few starters:
Onto some more detail...
This game is extremely hard to create conflict in. If you try to create your own, you can't really dictate how fair anything is going to be. People that step up and are willing to go on the offensive by themselves are the people that keep this game interesting and fun. Without them, PK would be a lot less frequent and therefore the game a lot more boring.
Sadly, no one views these types of players this way. Everyone's quick to feel sorry for the people they kill and aren't looking at the bigger picture.
Look at it this way. Proficy is generally baiting conflict where he either dies or doesn't get the fun type of PK he's looking for. If he comes after you later for delivering someone out or smashing his face in with a larger group, you have a few options:
1) accept Proficy attacking you as an opportunity to get better through actual gameplay. You may die, but you might learn something and he may have just temporarily made the game more exciting for you. Essentially ignore the death part if it happens. There was more to it than you just dying. I doubt he'll just keep coming after you over and over. Overtime, he's probably given you more kills on him than he's gotten on you due to the nature of initiating.
2) ask your city mates to help you when he comes after you. Could turn into a fun, small group skirmish or you could just smash his face in and let him know your boys got your back if he wants to try again. This helps establish friendship and coordination with citymates by just playing the game. Why you're even considering Proficy's attitude in this equation is beyond me. Why not look at it as an opportunity to lean on your citymates or get better and show him who's boss?
3) whine about it because Proficy created the initial conflict, so you teaming him/delivering allies out was justified so he shouldn't get any retribution.
tl;dr Proficy's giving you gameplay opportunities left and right, you probably just aren't seeing it that way.
However, these points also assume everyone is on the same level playing field, when that just simply is not true.
I find it somewhat difficult to swallow that a new Logosian should de level multiple times to further their gameplay opportunities.
Should they be instigating then? No. Perhaps they've done something that warrants their death. They should be able to die and move on.
My problem is not the combat, but the berating of novices that try to open dialogue and resolve their problem. Explain to them what they did and why you are coming after them. Give them the opportunity to learn from their mistake.
We will find you. We will kill you.
And why is the onus on the person delivering, and not the "dirty coward" escaping battle?
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Hullo, desecrate.
That love soon might end You are unbreaking
And be known in its aching Though quaking
Shown in this shaking Though crazy
Lately of my wasteland, baby That's just wasteland, baby
And you won't understand the cause of your grief...
...But you'll always follow the voices beneath.