The problem with using bounties to come after shrine defilement is obvious. You can't say for sure who defiled a shrine unless you witness. If you witnessed, then you already have a writ. Putting up a separate bounty to give someone else a crack at killing the defiler is just overkill.
You don't need to enter the WITNESS command to witness someone defiling
Depends on how you define "need"; whether you mean to not break the rules, or to not get hired on:
Message #6 Sent by Meletus
9/14/21:33 Greetings! In regard to issue 70053, they are allowed to contract out on you if you do not receive an official writ! For the earlier issue response, that was more along the lines of whether or not it'd be specifically against the rules and if you'd lose an issue for such an attack. However, so long as the writs system exists, one will be required, otherwise the other individual would be well within their rights to hire a Mark.
Are we really all going back to counting cause here?
Jesus.
This shit is infuriating. If you engage in conflict/provocative actions, then expect conflict and provocation back.
The natural continuation of this argument about writs and bounties and defiling, is that if I go around defiling shrines, but keep mindnet up, and simply move every time I see someone come into the area who could be a member of that order, then by your argument, Bluef and others, I'm safe from pk.
That's ridiculous, and it's going back to counting cause, which is exactly what we -don't- need.
Defiling is one of the biggest conflict-provoking actions you can do in the game, RP-wise. You're literally going out into the world and publicly offering up dead bodies that you spent time gathering to reduce the size of and/or destroy a shrine to another faction's God.
You're gonna get attacked. People are gonna be pissed. It's a part of the conflict you wanted to join.
If a city leader capable of posting bounties finds out that you were part of a defiling group because someone saw (using this word as to not conflate the technical in-game mechanical term of 'WITNESS') you do it because you were in the area, with a group of the members of that faction, and no one else, then you had it coming.
It just rubs me the wrong way. Seems like a "I want to have my cake and eat it too" situation.
Are we really all going back to counting cause here?
Jesus.
This shit is infuriating. If you engage in conflict/provocative actions, then expect conflict and provocation back.
The natural continuation of this argument about writs and bounties and defiling, is that if I go around defiling shrines, but keep mindnet up, and simply move every time I see someone come into the area who could be a member of that order, then by your argument, Bluef and others, I'm safe from pk.
That's ridiculous, and it's going back to counting cause, which is exactly what we -don't- need.
Defiling is one of the biggest conflict-provoking actions you can do in the game, RP-wise. You're literally going out into the world and publicly offering up dead bodies that you spent time gathering to reduce the size of and/or destroy a shrine to another faction's God.
You're gonna get attacked. People are gonna be pissed. It's a part of the conflict you wanted to join.
If a city leader capable of posting bounties finds out that you were part of a defiling group because someone saw (using this word as to not conflate the technical in-game mechanical term of 'WITNESS') you do it because you were in the area, with a group of the members of that faction, and no one else, then you had it coming.
It just rubs me the wrong way. Seems like a "I want to have my cake and eat it too" situation.
To me it seems more like you guys don't want to have to defend a shrine when the odds aren't insurmountably in your favor, and instead just bounty it out later instead of responding to what is happening.
If you want to fight over shrines, show up to defend them. Don't just assume everyone was defiling because you're too lazy to go check. I'm Althaia's mentor and shrine combat is a large part of life in Targossas so I was teaching her the basics of it. Someone following a learning is not a crime.
Are we really all going back to counting cause here?
Jesus.
This shit is infuriating. If you engage in conflict/provocative actions, then expect conflict and provocation back.
The natural continuation of this argument about writs and bounties and defiling, is that if I go around defiling shrines, but keep mindnet up, and simply move every time I see someone come into the area who could be a member of that order, then by your argument, Bluef and others, I'm safe from pk.
That's ridiculous, and it's going back to counting cause, which is exactly what we -don't- need.
Defiling is one of the biggest conflict-provoking actions you can do in the game, RP-wise. You're literally going out into the world and publicly offering up dead bodies that you spent time gathering to reduce the size of and/or destroy a shrine to another faction's God.
You're gonna get attacked. People are gonna be pissed. It's a part of the conflict you wanted to join.
If a city leader capable of posting bounties finds out that you were part of a defiling group because someone saw (using this word as to not conflate the technical in-game mechanical term of 'WITNESS') you do it because you were in the area, with a group of the members of that faction, and no one else, then you had it coming.
It just rubs me the wrong way. Seems like a "I want to have my cake and eat it too" situation.
There is a difference between individual 'cause' (which really doesn't exist anymore) and organizational PK rights. When someone witnesses a shrine, they gain a personal writ that they can carry out on behalf of the organization. There really is no shrine defense on behalf of an order without the witnessed act of defiling.
You'll get no argument from me. If people go around attacking shrines, they should expect to get witnessed and reap the consequences of those actions. But if someone goes around jumping people they only suspect of defiling without a writ, then they should also expect to get hired on.
The entire concept of writs was thought up to combat the guesswork and to give defilers a chance to get away with defiling (it's the first point in the entire system). Some people, although arguably a minority, join this conflict because this 'out' is provided. They want to roleplay being sneaky saboteurs working against certain divine or their realms. Right now, the shrine system is set up so they can do that.
They want to roleplay being sneaky saboteurs working against certain divine or their realms. Right now, the shrine system is set up so they can do that.
Welp, they aren't being terribly sneaky if their enemies know who they are and what they're up to. Maybe you like roleplaying "the criminal who gets off on technicalities", but yeesh.
To me it seems more like you guys don't want to have to defend a shrine when the odds aren't insurmountably in your favor, and instead just bounty it out later instead of responding to what is happening.
If you want to fight over shrines, show up to defend them. Don't just assume everyone was defiling because you're too lazy to go check. I'm Althaia's mentor and shrine combat is a large part of life in Targossas so I was teaching her the basics of it. Someone following a learning is not a crime.
tbf, a lot of the time it's just 5+ people defiling with a pile of corpses spread out to each person, and there's not enough time to gather a respectable group and then go. Sure, sometimes maybe you're actually defiling to get a conflict going, but there are definitely times where there's not even time to gather (mass defiling; dead shrine in a matter of a couple minutes or whatever).
Are we really all going back to counting cause here?
Jesus.
This shit is infuriating. If you engage in conflict/provocative actions, then expect conflict and provocation back.
The natural continuation of this argument about writs and bounties and defiling, is that if I go around defiling shrines, but keep mindnet up, and simply move every time I see someone come into the area who could be a member of that order, then by your argument, Bluef and others, I'm safe from pk.
That's ridiculous, and it's going back to counting cause, which is exactly what we -don't- need.
Defiling is one of the biggest conflict-provoking actions you can do in the game, RP-wise. You're literally going out into the world and publicly offering up dead bodies that you spent time gathering to reduce the size of and/or destroy a shrine to another faction's God.
You're gonna get attacked. People are gonna be pissed. It's a part of the conflict you wanted to join.
If a city leader capable of posting bounties finds out that you were part of a defiling group because someone saw (using this word as to not conflate the technical in-game mechanical term of 'WITNESS') you do it because you were in the area, with a group of the members of that faction, and no one else, then you had it coming.
It just rubs me the wrong way. Seems like a "I want to have my cake and eat it too" situation.
It's more personally upsetting that Mhaldor is lazily abusing these cool new mechanics, which starts these binary arguments about city x doing lame things to city y (who then do them back) - starting an infinite loop of "you did it first" finger pointing. We aren't cause counting - if we were we were we would be complaining about getting attacked while defiling (who gives a shit - we love the skirmishes, even if we often lose). We are more concerned that you all know this is wrong but you're supporting it anyway. What Linus said.
Also, does anything in this game really require such an obviously angry and inflammatory post?
Are we really all going back to counting cause here?
Jesus.
This shit is infuriating. If you engage in conflict/provocative actions, then expect conflict and provocation back.
The natural continuation of this argument about writs and bounties and defiling, is that if I go around defiling shrines, but keep mindnet up, and simply move every time I see someone come into the area who could be a member of that order, then by your argument, Bluef and others, I'm safe from pk.
That's ridiculous, and it's going back to counting cause, which is exactly what we -don't- need.
Defiling is one of the biggest conflict-provoking actions you can do in the game, RP-wise. You're literally going out into the world and publicly offering up dead bodies that you spent time gathering to reduce the size of and/or destroy a shrine to another faction's God.
You're gonna get attacked. People are gonna be pissed. It's a part of the conflict you wanted to join.
If a city leader capable of posting bounties finds out that you were part of a defiling group because someone saw (using this word as to not conflate the technical in-game mechanical term of 'WITNESS') you do it because you were in the area, with a group of the members of that faction, and no one else, then you had it coming.
It just rubs me the wrong way. Seems like a "I want to have my cake and eat it too" situation.
To me it seems more like you guys don't want to have to defend a shrine when the odds aren't insurmountably in your favor, and instead just bounty it out later instead of responding to what is happening.
If you want to fight over shrines, show up to defend them. Don't just assume everyone was defiling because you're too lazy to go check. I'm Althaia's mentor and shrine combat is a large part of life in Targossas so I was teaching her the basics of it. Someone following a learning is not a crime.
This is the definition of cause counting.
"Someone following and learning is not a crime."
If I bring a Naga with me, and I go "THIS IS HOW YOU ROB FROM A WEAKLING," and then rob you, you better believe RP-wise the person learning is just as culpable as the person doing.
Now, this isn't to that say that a person taking the bounty shouldn't honors the person, realize they're a novice/lower-might individual, and RP out some kind of duel or conflict-speech with them.
However, -defaulting- to the "cause" or "crime" argument is what I'm dissuading here, which is what it seems like you're doing.
Are we really all going back to counting cause here?
Jesus.
This shit is infuriating. If you engage in conflict/provocative actions, then expect conflict and provocation back.
The natural continuation of this argument about writs and bounties and defiling, is that if I go around defiling shrines, but keep mindnet up, and simply move every time I see someone come into the area who could be a member of that order, then by your argument, Bluef and others, I'm safe from pk.
That's ridiculous, and it's going back to counting cause, which is exactly what we -don't- need.
Defiling is one of the biggest conflict-provoking actions you can do in the game, RP-wise. You're literally going out into the world and publicly offering up dead bodies that you spent time gathering to reduce the size of and/or destroy a shrine to another faction's God.
You're gonna get attacked. People are gonna be pissed. It's a part of the conflict you wanted to join.
If a city leader capable of posting bounties finds out that you were part of a defiling group because someone saw (using this word as to not conflate the technical in-game mechanical term of 'WITNESS') you do it because you were in the area, with a group of the members of that faction, and no one else, then you had it coming.
It just rubs me the wrong way. Seems like a "I want to have my cake and eat it too" situation.
It's more personally upsetting that Mhaldor is lazily abusing these cool new mechanics, which starts these binary arguments about city x doing lame things to city y (who then do them back) - starting an infinite loop of "you did it first" finger pointing. We aren't cause counting - if we were we were we would be complaining about getting attacked while defiling (who gives a shit - we love the skirmishes, even if we often lose). We are more concerned that you all know this is wrong but you're supporting it anyway. What Linus said.
Also, does anything in this game really require such an obviously angry and inflammatory post?
"Lazily abusing" seems like the very thing you're complaining about: "you did it first" finger pointing.
I don't "know this is wrong." I wholly disagree. In fact, I had a similar opinion to yours when I was hunted while bashing an hour after defiling by Atalkez, or when I was jumped by 10 people who ALSO took a writ via the WITNESS system during the eleusis conflict.
However, I examined the dynamic and decided that if I was going to instigate conflict so brazenly in the face of the enemy, then I should expect what comes to me.
I have trouble aligning and comprehending how you can claim to be "fine with skirmishing, even if we lose" but then state that it's "lazy and abusive" for Mhaldor to take out bounties when they're on the losing side.
The response to both is the same. If I happen upon someone defiling and I attack them without using the WRIT/WITNESS system, then I'm opening myself to being hired upon, or retaliated against, what have you.
If I take a bounty on someone just for defiling, I'd imagine the same could be said.
I look at the new PK rules as a simple guideline: Make conflict reasonably RP-related, and while outside of war factional lines are not an excuse for open pk, as belonging to a military or city is expected and even mandatory in some places, if you involve yourself in conflict, you should expect to be involved in conflict.
As others have said here, the guise of the RP rules is not to "find ways to involve yourself in conflict but avoid retribution by way of technicalities."
These quotes are becoming wayyyy too emotional. Let's push to make writs handable as city bounties in the appropriate thread, and get back on track: this is the place for awesomeness.
So attacking you and Kei is immensely fucked up, but attacking our novices for something they didn't do isn't? This entire argument is such a double standard.
So attacking you and Kei is immensely fucked up, but attacking our novices for something they didn't do isn't? This entire argument is such a double standard.
Yea, so about that post when I apologized to you and said that had nothing to do with you.
Yes I agree with you on the PK rules - go for it. But when the admins say you can't have bounties for shrine defilement and you continue to say that its perfectly fine, it shows a clear willingness to just do whatever you want. This generally gets us into a circle jerk of doing fucked up things to one another. If thats how you wanna play then, so be it. Don't go complaining to me when it becomes suddenly unfair/inconvenient for you and you want out.
Yes I agree with you on the PK rules - go for it. But when the admins say you can't have bounties for shrine defilement and you continue to say that its perfectly fine, it shows a clear willingness to just do whatever you want. This generally gets us into a circle jerk of doing fucked up things to one another. If thats how you wanna play then, so be it. Don't go complaining to me when it becomes suddenly unfair/inconvenient for you and you want out.
I lived through rezz-killing and permastun handaxes
I think I'll live through some teaming and cheap tactics.
2014/09/17 13:27:30 - Ruth has filed a bounty against Althaia for 'Destroying a shrine to the Master'. The
reward is 5000 gold.
2014/09/17 13:27:56 - Ruth has filed a bounty against Eleison for 'Destroying a shrine to the Master'. The
reward is 10000 gold.
2014/09/17 13:28:38 - Ruth has filed a bounty against Talysin for 'Destroying a shrine to the Master'. The
reward is 10000 gold.
2014/09/17 13:28:54 - Ruth has filed a bounty against Patria for 'Destroying a shrine to the Master'. The
reward is 8000 gold.
2014/09/17 13:29:15 - Ruth has filed a bounty against Linus for 'Destroying a shrine to the Master'. The
reward is 10000 gold.
Just wondering.. isn't this exactly against the purpose of bounties? Shrine conflict is supposed to be solved via writs, right?
Yes, Im particularly annoyed that Althaia was on the list.
In before we get a response akin to "Mhaldor is Sartan's city, so...."
Don't worry, Taly, she won't see it coming when I claim my bounty. In fact, I could sing her to sleep if she really wanted.
(No but really, I took it because it'd be the even match up, didn't want someone like Xer or Hasar to come guns-blazing and OHKO her. She may even kill me! Or she may not, but at least she won't be blown up in a hit.)
You viciously jab an ornate steel rapier into Chiam. The final blow proves too much for Chiam, who falls to the floor a broken, bloody mess. You have slain Chiam. Chiam leaves to the ether. You look around triumphantly and realise you are the last one standing. You have WON the game of Rampage.
You viciously jab an ornate steel rapier into Chiam. The final blow proves too much for Chiam, who falls to the floor a broken, bloody mess. You have slain Chiam. Chiam leaves to the ether. You look around triumphantly and realise you are the last one standing. You have WON the game of Rampage.
Proficiencies based on Class ---------------------------- Some classes gain proficiencies automatically, at no cost, as follows: Bards rapiers Druids quarterstaves Infernals longswords Jesters blackjacks and daggers Paladins longswords Priests maces Runewardens broadswords Sentinels handaxes plus either spears or tridents Serpents whips Sylvans quarterstaves
Why both Infernals and Paladins get longswords whereas Runewardens get broadswords? Maybe with the weaponry re-work, knights can be stopped from using flimsy rapiers and start to use more knightly weapons!
Tharos, the Announcer of Delos shouts, "It's near the end of the egghunt and I still haven't figured out how to pronounce Clean-dat-hoo."
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Album of Bluef during her time in Achaea
Jesus.
This shit is infuriating. If you engage in conflict/provocative actions, then expect conflict and provocation back.
The natural continuation of this argument about writs and bounties and defiling, is that if I go around defiling shrines, but keep mindnet up, and simply move every time I see someone come into the area who could be a member of that order, then by your argument, Bluef and others, I'm safe from pk.
That's ridiculous, and it's going back to counting cause, which is exactly what we -don't- need.
Defiling is one of the biggest conflict-provoking actions you can do in the game, RP-wise. You're literally going out into the world and publicly offering up dead bodies that you spent time gathering to reduce the size of and/or destroy a shrine to another faction's God.
You're gonna get attacked. People are gonna be pissed. It's a part of the conflict you wanted to join.
If a city leader capable of posting bounties finds out that you were part of a defiling group because someone saw (using this word as to not conflate the technical in-game mechanical term of 'WITNESS') you do it because you were in the area, with a group of the members of that faction, and no one else, then you had it coming.
It just rubs me the wrong way. Seems like a "I want to have my cake and eat it too" situation.
If you want to fight over shrines, show up to defend them. Don't just assume everyone was defiling because you're too lazy to go check. I'm Althaia's mentor and shrine combat is a large part of life in Targossas so I was teaching her the basics of it. Someone following a learning is not a crime.
You'll get no argument from me. If people go around attacking shrines, they should expect to get witnessed and reap the consequences of those actions. But if someone goes around jumping people they only suspect of defiling without a writ, then they should also expect to get hired on.
The entire concept of writs was thought up to combat the guesswork and to give defilers a chance to get away with defiling (it's the first point in the entire system). Some people, although arguably a minority, join this conflict because this 'out' is provided. They want to roleplay being sneaky saboteurs working against certain divine or their realms. Right now, the shrine system is set up so they can do that.
Album of Bluef during her time in Achaea
Also, does anything in this game really require such an obviously angry and inflammatory post?
Edit: Unless I'm in character!
"Someone following and learning is not a crime."
If I bring a Naga with me, and I go "THIS IS HOW YOU ROB FROM A WEAKLING," and then rob you, you better believe RP-wise the person learning is just as culpable as the person doing.
Now, this isn't to that say that a person taking the bounty shouldn't honors the person, realize they're a novice/lower-might individual, and RP out some kind of duel or conflict-speech with them.
However, -defaulting- to the "cause" or "crime" argument is what I'm dissuading here, which is what it seems like you're doing.
"Lazily abusing" seems like the very thing you're complaining about: "you did it first" finger pointing.
I don't "know this is wrong." I wholly disagree. In fact, I had a similar opinion to yours when I was hunted while bashing an hour after defiling by Atalkez, or when I was jumped by 10 people who ALSO took a writ via the WITNESS system during the eleusis conflict.
However, I examined the dynamic and decided that if I was going to instigate conflict so brazenly in the face of the enemy, then I should expect what comes to me.
I have trouble aligning and comprehending how you can claim to be "fine with skirmishing, even if we lose" but then state that it's "lazy and abusive" for Mhaldor to take out bounties when they're on the losing side.
The response to both is the same. If I happen upon someone defiling and I attack them without using the WRIT/WITNESS system, then I'm opening myself to being hired upon, or retaliated against, what have you.
If I take a bounty on someone just for defiling, I'd imagine the same could be said.
I look at the new PK rules as a simple guideline: Make conflict reasonably RP-related, and while outside of war factional lines are not an excuse for open pk, as belonging to a military or city is expected and even mandatory in some places, if you involve yourself in conflict, you should expect to be involved in conflict.
As others have said here, the guise of the RP rules is not to "find ways to involve yourself in conflict but avoid retribution by way of technicalities."
Let's push to make writs handable as city bounties in the appropriate thread, and get back on track: this is the place for awesomeness.
I think I'll live through some teaming and cheap tactics.
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One of the symptoms of an approaching nervous breakdown is the belief that one's work is terribly important
I WON MY FIRST RAMPAGE!
Congratulations! I imagine you walking away like the, uh, racoon in your signature. Swag.
Now go OHKO that Targossan novice.
Why both Infernals and Paladins get longswords whereas Runewardens get broadswords? Maybe with the weaponry re-work, knights can be stopped from using flimsy rapiers and start to use more knightly weapons!
13:30:28 You set the jack-in-the-box on the ground and quickly wind it with its handle
13:30:28 while whispering, 'Carmain.' The cheerful music of a lute begins to emanate from
13:30:28 it.
13:30:28 4730h, 4400m cekdb-
13:30:29
13:30:29 (Party): Eleison says, "Tash and I."
13:30:29 4730h, 4400m cekdb-
13:30:30
13:30:30 You have recovered balance on all limbs.
13:30:30 4730h, 4400m cexkdb-
13:30:35 The music of the jack-in-the-box becomes faster and more frantic and a loud
13:30:35 voice from within yells, "Carmain, I'm a-cooomiiiiing!"
13:30:35 4730h, 4400m cexkdb-
13:30:39 The top of the jack-in-the-box flips open, and up pops a jester puppet with
13:30:39 razor-sharp teeth. Growing to sudden, improbable size, the spring-loaded puppet
13:30:39 rips Carmain's head off with a single bite.
13:30:39 The last vestiges of strength having ebbed from Carmain's body, he sinks to the
13:30:39 floor with a sigh. Suddenly, your surroundings are enveloped in a blinding white
13:30:39 light, forcing you to cower with your hands over your eyes. When you tentatively
13:30:39 open them once more, you are astonished to find Carmain alive once more.
13:30:39 4730h, 4400m cexkdb-
13:30:39 Carmain waggles his eyebrows comically.
13:30:39 4730h, 4400m cexkdb-
13:30:39 Carmain eats a quartz grain.
13:30:39 4730h, 4400m cexkdb-
13:30:39 Carmain takes a drink from a stygian vial.
13:30:39 4730h, 4400m cexkdb-
13:30:39 Carmain eats a quartz grain.
13:30:39 4730h, 4400m cexkdb-
13:30:39 Carmain clenches his fists and grits his teeth.
13:30:39 4730h, 4400m cexkdb-
13:30:40 Carmain calls aloud abruptly.
13:30:40 4730h, 4400m cexkdb-
13:30:40 You gasp in astonishment as Carmain's flesh begins to melt and dissolve before
13:30:40 your eyes.
13:30:40 4730h, 4400m cexkdb-
13:30:41 Curing activated.
13:30:41 4730h, 4400m cexkdb-
13:30:45 You gather your legs under you and backflip out to the in.
13:30:45 Great rock gate (indoors).
13:30:45 A sigil in the shape of a small, rectangular monolith is on the ground. An elite
13:30:45 mhun keeper watches everything carefully here.
13:30:45 You see exits leading north, west, and out (open door).
13:30:45 An elite mhun keeper says, "Do not step out of line in these halls, outsider."
13:30:45 4730h, 4400m cekdb-
13:30:45 You must regain balance first.
13:30:45 4730h, 4400m cekdb-
13:30:45 You must regain balance first.
13:30:45 4730h, 4400m cekdb-
13:30:45
13:30:45 You have recovered balance on all limbs.
13:30:45 4730h, 4400m cexkdb-
13:30:45 There is no exit in that direction.
13:30:45 4730h, 4400m cexkdb-
13:30:45 There is no exit in that direction.
13:30:45 4730h, 4400m cexkdb-
13:30:46 There is no exit in that direction.
13:30:46 4730h, 4400m cexkdb-
13:30:48 You remove 1 wood, bringing the total in the Rift to 1969.
13:30:48 4730h, 4400m cexkdb-
13:30:48 You remove 1 iron, bringing the total in the Rift to 2420.
13:30:48 4730h, 4400m cexkdb-
13:30:48 With agile fingers, you quickly construct a jack-in-the-box.
13:30:48 4730h, 4400m cekdb-
13:30:52
13:30:52 (Party): Eleison says, "Ruth moved one room to Drawbridge in Moghedu."
13:30:52 4730h, 4400m cekdb-
13:30:52
13:30:52 You have recovered balance on all limbs.
13:30:52 4730h, 4400m cexkdb-
13:30:52 You gather your legs under you and backflip out to the out.
13:30:52 At the foot of the Vashnar Mountains.
13:30:52 A massive iron door looms above you. A ladder of long, soft leaves comprises a
13:30:52 wispy Weaver's Fern along the ground. A brightly coloured jack-in-the-box rests
13:30:52 quietly on the ground. Dreadlord Iniquitous Carmain Nithilar, Voice of Evil is
13:30:52 here. He wields an ornate steel rapier in each hand. You may ENTER the
13:30:52 WILDERNESS map from here.
13:30:52 You see exits leading northeast, east, south, west, northwest, and in (open
13:30:52 door).
13:30:52 4730h, 4400m cekdb-
13:30:52
13:30:52 (Party): Eleison says, "Ruth moved 2 rooms to Drawbridge in Moghedu."
13:30:52 4730h, 4400m cekdb-
13:30:53
13:30:53 You have recovered balance on all limbs.
13:30:53 4730h, 4400m cexkdb-
13:30:54 4730h, 4400m cexkdb-
13:30:54 You set the jack-in-the-box on the ground and quickly wind it with its handle
13:30:54 while whispering, 'Carmain.' The cheerful music of a lute begins to emanate from
13:30:54 it.
13:30:54 4730h, 4400m cekdb-
13:30:56
13:30:56 You have recovered balance on all limbs.
13:30:56 4730h, 4400m cexkdb-
13:30:57 Carmain viciously jabs an ornate steel rapier into you.
13:30:57 You stumble as your left leg shrivels into a useless appendage.
13:30:57 Lightning-quick, Carmain jabs you with an ornate steel rapier.
13:30:57 Your shield completely absorbs the damage.
13:30:57 You watch, in horror, as your left arm shrivels up and becomes useless.
13:30:57 4434h, 4400m cexkdb-
13:30:59 Carmain viciously jabs an ornate steel rapier into you.
13:30:59 You stumble as your right leg shrivels into a useless appendage.
13:30:59 Lightning-quick, Carmain jabs you with an ornate steel rapier.
13:30:59 You watch, in horror, as your right arm shrivels up and becomes useless.
13:30:59 3936h, 4400m cexkdb-
13:31:00 You cease winding the Jack-in-the-box.
13:31:00 Might I suggest trying again?
13:31:00 3936h, 4400m cexkdb-
13:31:02 You bleed 39 health.
13:31:02 3897h, 4400m cexkdb-
13:31:02 You take out some balm and quickly rub it on your legs.
13:31:02 The bones in your left leg mend.
13:31:02 3897h, 4400m cexkdb-
13:31:02 You take a drink from an oaken vial.
13:31:02 The tonic heals and soothes you.
13:31:02 4730h, 4400m cexkdb-
13:31:02 Curing activated.
13:31:02 4730h, 4400m cexkdb-
13:31:02 Carmain reaches out for your chest but his hand stops short of it.
13:31:02 4730h, 4400m cexkdb-
13:31:02 Curing activated.
13:31:02 4730h, 4400m cexkdb-
13:31:02 Carmain takes a drink from a stygian vial.
13:31:02 4730h, 4400m cexkdb-
13:31:03 You may apply another salve or balm to yourself.
13:31:03 4730h, 4400m cexkdb-
13:31:03 You take out some balm and quickly rub it on your legs.
13:31:03 The bones in your right leg mend.
13:31:03 4730h, 4400m cexkdb-
13:31:03 Curing activated.
13:31:03 4730h, 4400m cexkdb-
13:31:03 Curing activated.
13:31:03 4730h, 4400m cexkdb-
13:31:04 You may apply another salve or balm to yourself.
13:31:04 4730h, 4400m cexkdb-
13:31:04 You take out some balm and quickly rub it on your arms.
13:31:04 The bones in your left arm mend.
13:31:04 4730h, 4400m cexkdb-
13:31:04 You touch the tree of life tattoo.
13:31:04 The bones in your right arm mend.
13:31:04 4730h, 4400m cexkdb-
13:31:05 You may apply another salve or balm to yourself.
13:31:05 4730h, 4400m cexkdb-
13:31:06 You glare about yourself, upset with the world.
13:31:06 4730h, 4400m cexkdb-
13:31:06 You glare about yourself, upset with the world.
13:31:06 4730h, 4400m cexkdb-
13:31:07 You may drink another health or mana elixir or tonic.
13:31:07 4730h, 4400m cexkdb-
13:31:08 You say in an oddly feminine voice, "You let me do that."
13:31:08 4730h, 4400m cexkdb-
13:31:10 At the foot of the Vashnar Mountains.
13:31:10 A massive iron door looms above you. A ladder of long, soft leaves comprises a
13:31:10 wispy Weaver's Fern along the ground. There are 2 comical jack-in-the-boxes
13:31:10 here. Dreadlord Iniquitous Carmain Nithilar, Voice of Evil is here. He wields
13:31:10 an ornate steel rapier in each hand. You may ENTER the WILDERNESS map from here.
13:31:10 You see exits leading northeast, east, south, west, northwest, and in (open
13:31:10 door).
13:31:10 4730h, 4400m cexkdb-
13:31:11
13:31:11 Dreadlord Iniquitous Carmain Nithilar, Voice of Evil says, "Yes."
13:31:11 4730h, 4400m cexkdb-
13:31:13 You say in an oddly feminine voice, "Rude!"
13:31:13 4730h, 4400m cexkdb-
13:31:16
13:31:16 Dreadlord Iniquitous Carmain Nithilar, Voice of Evil says, "Yes."