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Multiclassing

BorranBorran Member Posts: 845 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
Recently @Tecton took feedback and suggestions for the implementation of a multiclassing system for Achaea. I am really excited for these changes and look forward to seeing how they are going to be integrated. (as well as the reduction in the alt populace)

Ever since I heard rumor if these changes, I've been thinking of what classes Borran would want to learn, and I still have not come to a solid conclusion.

I'd like to know if others are making plans for the upcoming changes. And if you wanted to, what classes would you choose for your characters and why?


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  • KiushaKiusha Member Posts: 16 ✭✭ - Stalwart
    Kiusha recently went Bard, because she couldn't reasonably stay Paladin under the laws of the Diaspora and in Ty Beirdd it was either that or Jester. She's always been a knight though, first Runewarden, then Paladin, so if the new system allows definitely Runewarden as second class. Forging as tradeskill, more or less for the same reason.
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  • BorranBorran Member Posts: 845 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    I believe the plan is to have trade skills removed from classes prior to multiclassing, but it would be nice to be at ground level in one if the classes that loses a trade skill to see what they add too take its place.

  • HeguaHegua Member Posts: 160 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    I do have solid plans for the current character I'm playing that take into account the upcoming trade skill changes and eventual multiclassing. This character was fairly fleshed out at conception regarding classes, city/house/Order/etc roles and avenues for advancement, and organizational alliances.

    I've taken care to consider those plans and stick to what makes sense when deciding how to deal with the changes. The classes I chose are tied closely enough together that the plans should survive any House or factional upheaval with regard to accepted classes, I do enjoy the mechanics of my current class but overall this is a round where the character's personality and niche are my first consideration.

    For a new concept character, I would be some combination of monk+blademaster+serpent (pure fun badassery), followed by shaman+apostate (pure fun badassery, with emotes!).


  • SenaSena Member Posts: 3,954 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited November 2013
    Sena would definitely be a serpent again. As her primary class, if that ends up mattering. It's always a hard choice between trying out different classes or going back to serpent, so multiclass would (hopefully) be a chance to do both.

    And as long as I'm changing things up, assuming I had the credits to re-trans again, I'd probably also switch away from alchemist, since the class ended up being rather underwhelming overall (although getting a new skill in exchange for transmutation could easily change that). I'm not sure what I'd try instead, though. The classes I'm most interested in trying at this point are all factional classes (apostate and sentinel, or possibly druid), so unless the tradeskill replacements end up making some class a lot more interesting/appealing, I might just go back to something familiar, like shaman. Or I could go monk for the bashing.
  • JonathinJonathin Retirement hole.Member Posts: 3,323 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    monk and magi at least.
    Need a gem of transmutation though. And one of those grimoire things.

    I'm excited for trade skills to break off from classes though. More excited than for multiclassing. I think there was going to be a limit on how many you can learn, but that's ok.

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  • AthraxAthrax Member Posts: 89 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Will probably try BM and Monk.  Like Jonathin though... I'm mostly excited to see what comes to Wardens when Forging goes bye-bye.  My expectations are pretty low though.
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  • AntoniusAntonius Member Posts: 4,737 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    I've narrowed down my options to Runewarden (mainly just to make people cry with my artefacts) and Blademaster, not sure there's anything else that I'd enjoy and would fit. I'm more interested in the trade skill changes and weaponry overhaul.
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  • TrevizeTrevize Member Posts: 1,517 @ - Epic Achaean
    Serpent or magi, most likely. Occultist possibly, but there's RP repercussions I'd have to reconcile.
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  • NemutaurNemutaur GermanyMember Posts: 1,068
    Runie, Serpent, Occie and Magi. Just a modest list but it'll probably end up being Runie only depending on how it's restricted with housing.
  • EldEld Member Posts: 3,946 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Monk, mayyybe runie (don't want to reincarnate, though, so probably not), perhaps others depending on what classes we're allowing in the house at that point.
  • FlorentinoFlorentino Member Posts: 516
    Naga 4 lyfe, so I'm going to stay serpent and try to add jester (assuming the Naga start accepting them, which I will argue in favor of, I think). Those are two great creative tactical classes for group combat. 
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  • CathyCathy Member Posts: 377 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Serpent or occultist both look like so much fun.
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  • ValdusValdus AustraliaMember Posts: 598 ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    I just want all of you to be prepared that this could take as much as a RL year to be implemented. It's not right around the corner.

    So, bear that in mind.

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  • ShirszaeShirszae Santo DomingoMember Posts: 3,085 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Naga 4 lyfe, so I'm going to stay serpent and try to add jester (assuming the Naga start accepting them, which I will argue in favor of, I think). Those are two great creative tactical classes for group combat. 
    I just need them to start accepting bards.  :P

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  • ArditiArditi Member Posts: 841
    Shirszae said:
    Naga 4 lyfe, so I'm going to stay serpent and try to add jester (assuming the Naga start accepting them, which I will argue in favor of, I think). Those are two great creative tactical classes for group combat. 
    I just need them to start accepting bards.  :P
    Serpent: Premier stealth class of the game.

    Bard: Sings and plays music, thus completely defeating the purpose of stealth.

    Jester: Throws bombs, causes explosions, tells jokes, leaves graffiti, thus completely defeating the purpose of stealth.

    Hmmmmmmm.

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  • ShirszaeShirszae Santo DomingoMember Posts: 3,085 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Arditi said:
    Shirszae said:
    Naga 4 lyfe, so I'm going to stay serpent and try to add jester (assuming the Naga start accepting them, which I will argue in favor of, I think). Those are two great creative tactical classes for group combat. 
    I just need them to start accepting bards.  :P
    Serpent: Premier stealth class of the game.

    Bard: Sings and plays music, thus completely defeating the purpose of stealth.

    Jester: Throws bombs, causes explosions, tells jokes, leaves graffiti, thus completely defeating the purpose of stealth.

    Hmmmmmmm.
    Thats a rather narrow-minded view of the potential roleplay of both those classes, but whatever floats your boat  :|

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  • ArditiArditi Member Posts: 841
    Shirszae said:
    Arditi said:
    Shirszae said:
    Naga 4 lyfe, so I'm going to stay serpent and try to add jester (assuming the Naga start accepting them, which I will argue in favor of, I think). Those are two great creative tactical classes for group combat. 
    I just need them to start accepting bards.  :P
    Serpent: Premier stealth class of the game.

    Bard: Sings and plays music, thus completely defeating the purpose of stealth.

    Jester: Throws bombs, causes explosions, tells jokes, leaves graffiti, thus completely defeating the purpose of stealth.

    Hmmmmmmm.
    Thats a rather narrow-minded view of the potential roleplay of both those classes, but whatever floats your boat  :|
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  • ShirszaeShirszae Santo DomingoMember Posts: 3,085 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited November 2013
    Arditi said:
    Shirszae said:
    Arditi said:
    Shirszae said:
    Naga 4 lyfe, so I'm going to stay serpent and try to add jester (assuming the Naga start accepting them, which I will argue in favor of, I think). Those are two great creative tactical classes for group combat. 
    I just need them to start accepting bards.  :P
    Serpent: Premier stealth class of the game.

    Bard: Sings and plays music, thus completely defeating the purpose of stealth.

    Jester: Throws bombs, causes explosions, tells jokes, leaves graffiti, thus completely defeating the purpose of stealth.

    Hmmmmmmm.
    Thats a rather narrow-minded view of the potential roleplay of both those classes, but whatever floats your boat  :|
    The milking room and sniper emplacements await you, Canticle-ent. :D
    Oh, look. I changed my mind.  :D  :P

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    ...But you'll always follow the voices beneath.

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  • KresslackKresslack Florida, United StatesMember Posts: 5,890 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    BM and Sentinel, hells yeah.


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  • AchimrstAchimrst NatureMember Posts: 3,608 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    I have Shaman and Sylvan planned out.
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  • RangorRangor Member Posts: 3,182 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    I'll be every class I can be.
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  • CaoimhaenCaoimhaen TargossasMember Posts: 800 @ - Epic Achaean
    Monk and bladie. Aaaaw yeah. Would be fun I think. Course knowing me I would probably switch my classes all around just to try combinations out..

  • SylvanceSylvance Member Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    Until I know what MC will look like, it's impossible to really answer this question. If it's just a matter of class-switching, I'll frankly just stick to alting which I find really quite enjoyable. If there is some kind of synergy to be made, then Bard-BM is likely to be my first choice.
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  • AradorArador Member Posts: 1,696 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Stupid House limitations will bone Multiclass. I have no issue with saying at least one of you classes must be X to be the the House. But if they forbid other classes beyond that it will just be stupid.

    Sylvance
  • NizarisNizaris The Holy City of MhaldorMember Posts: 537 ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    edited November 2013
    Arador said:
    Stupid House limitations will bone Multiclass. I have no issue with saying at least one of you classes must be X to be the the House. But if they forbid other classes beyond that it will just be stupid.
    I'm personally hoping for a happy medium, where: (1) at least one of your classes must be X to be in the house; and (2) an expanded assortment of other secondary classes that include most/all of the other acceptable classes in one's city. Some restrictions here: no Serpent Maldaathi/Knight Naga, etc.

    I'm wondering how traits will work with this: will we get to have a set of traits for each class that hot swap when we switch classes, as well? I'm hoping that the following functionality is included in some fashion, whether it's baked into the system or available as an artefact.

    • Ability to define race for each selected class (optional; see below).
    • Ability to define specialization for each selected class.
    • Ability to define traits for each selected class.
    • Have these "stat packs" hot swap automatically when we change classes.
    • Once set, each class' selected race/specialization could not be changed without a dagger of reincarnation, or gem of transmutation (just like it is currently).
    • Once set, each class' selected traits could not be changed without a gilded page, or grimiore of adaptation (again, same as current).
    • Create a new artefact, priced at 150-175 credits, that combines the features of a dagger and page, for single-use stat pack reset.
    • If race is allowed to be changed in these stat packs, then allow personal descriptions to also be hot-swapped with the stat pack.
    I can see that perhaps flipping race back and forth on a whim might be poor for immersion. Alternatively, if race is not allowed to be changed with the above, then perhaps only specialization? Eg. someone decides to multiclass mage/knight, and picks up the +int/+str specializations for each class, but their race stays the same.
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  • RangorRangor Member Posts: 3,182 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited November 2013

    @nizaris

     

    Ability to define race for each selected class (optional; see below).-See Gem of Reincarnation artefact. I doubt there will be an additional artefact that does the same.Ability to define specialization for each selected class.

    - See Gem of Reincarnation artefact. I doubt there will be an additional artefact that does the same.

     

    Ability to define traits for each selected class.- Isn't there an artie that lets you reset traits every month already?

     

     

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