Paladin Classleads + Addiction Change

Eld

If you wanted to make addiction useful in the arena, but leave the current behaviour of actually consuming herbs outside the arena, why not just change the arena behaviour so that all herbs consumed in the arena go back to your rift instead of your inventory?

Iocun

Eld said:

If you wanted to make addiction useful in the arena, but leave the current behaviour of actually consuming herbs outside the arena, why not just change the arena behaviour so that all herbs consumed in the arena go back to your rift instead of your inventory?

I would definitely be in favour of this. Not sure how easy to code it would be though.

Dunn

@Makarios do it.

Arador

Been asked for for ages. Apparently insanely hard to do. I still think the hoarding thing would be the best solution in and outside the arena.

Eld

Arador said:

Been asked for for ages. Apparently insanely hard to do. I still think the hoarding thing would be the best solution in and outside the arena.

Ah, didn't recall having seen it asked for previously.

Jovolo

@Strata

I said if you stick darkshade and/or vomiting, and then hit them with addiction. They're going to eat ginseng. If they eat ginseng with addiction and it cures the vomiting, or the darkshade, that means they no longer have ginseng in their inventory and they still have addiction, therefore unable to cure it, unless I'm misunderstanding how addiction works. 

EDIT: consequently, this means they have addiction and can't cure it. If you now hit with asthma for example, if they eat kelp, it means they're going to eat all the kelp in their inventory. If you afflict with curare, it means they eat all the bloodroot in their inventory. Kalmia/Gecko to follow will riftlock them. Thankfully there is no real downside to the only method I can think of to escape this kind of thing curing-wise,  but that's not the case when you fight vs Shaman/Infernal (again, i repeat).

Of course I mean this when they have broken arms.

That is what I mean. (It's also what I said!)

@Antonius - [ sorry, yes. I mean inventory, not rift! ]

Antonius

Your rift is where you store herbs, minerals, inks, commodities, etc. Your inventory is where they're stored when you OUTRIFT them. What you mean to say is "they no longer have ginseng in their inventory", rift is totally the wrong word and completely changes the meaning.

EDIT: Or, yes, you've completely misunderstood how it's supposed to work.

Sena

Addiction doesn't touch anything in your rift, you only eat all of an herb in your inventory, already outrifted.

Isaiah

*facepalm* *smh* really people...

Exelethril

I think the problem with having herbs rifted instead of eaten would be herbs being un-riftable with two broken arms(if I remember right). This sort of defeats the purpose of actually rift-locking someone with addiction if herbs remain in the inventory.

Sidonia

It doesn't have to follow the in-game rules if it's being coded in for a specific function.

Kaevan

Eat more herbs/minerals. I take entertainment and pleasure from watching the ensuing gluttony and calls of 'How do I stop? HOW DO I STOP?!'

Dunn

lol'd at Mhaldor shooting vardrax arrows. I saw Jhui eat like 56 magnesium from one arrow.

Kaevan

Dunn said:

lol'd at Mhaldor shooting vardrax arrows. I saw Jhui eat like 56 magnesium from one arrow.

We'll have to reclassify it as "stimulating the economy" at this rate. 

Kyrra

Thank god I topped up my rift.

Synbios

Kaevan said:

Eat more herbs/minerals. I take entertainment and pleasure from watching the ensuing gluttony and calls of 'How do I stop? HOW DO I STOP?!'

"Welcome to Herbaholics Anonymous. Alright, say it with me."

"I'm a Herbaholic, and that's good. I will never be able to control my portions, and that's OK, because there's no one I'd rather be than me."

"Wait, I thought we were supposed to be here to cure ourselves of addiction."

"...HE'S ON TO US. GET HIM!"

Blujixapug

Dunn said:

lol'd at Mhaldor shooting vardrax arrows. I saw Jhui eat like 56 magnesium from one arrow.

OH HOW THE TABLES HAVE TURNED.

But seriously there was something magical about the world being littered with vardrax darts traps, when it drained essence.

Mishgul

Rangors traps will now wreck everyone who uses a decent system in retardation

Rangor

Mishgul said:

Rangors traps will now wreck everyone who uses a decent system in retardation

I dunno man, voyria and delphinium isn't cured by eating herbs.

Mishgul

Why u use awfl traps

Rangor

Mishgul said:

Why u use awfl traps

One beautiful day, a group of mhaldorians will trip it and hit retardation. And on this day I will have concussion traps ready and stun everyone and voyria darts will give me the most magnificent deathsight list ever. (arc voyria + illusions is cheating)

Mishgul

There is no such thing as cheating. Only poor standards. You should know better than to be nice on achaea

Isaiah

@Iocun Thanks for the response!

Ellodin

you wouldn't even be able to riftlock someone that way if they had no herbs out

come on, man

Iocun

One possible option: if your last untargeted dsl had broken another body part (legs, head) to force an apply restoration, the riftlock would have been complete before he could have started to apply to arms.

Santar

Wow, please just delete your post. You have no idea what you're talking about.

Tesha

Your first mistake is you were using venoms on a serpent.

Your second mistake is you were fighting a serpent.

Your third mistake is you were targeting a serpent.

Dunn

leg arm arm.

Kakotas

Allsight/cleansing nerfs are a bit too high. It's a primary utility skill for paladin class. A better solution would be to tie it to defendable. In other words tie it to the defendable area of X persons city and outside of that city it decays at double the rate.

Silas

I'd sooner have an active ability to strip AF/BW, since cleansing hasn't been terribly effective at hindering infiltration in the past, but what can you do.