Combat Logs

Kard

Dunn said:

Forgot to log it so I tossed the CP up there to read it easier.

Also, re: that brazier.

You feel a moment of disorientation as you are magically summoned.

Spring Lane.

The bright sun shines down, blanketing you with its life-giving warmth. Romping 

playfully around is an inquisitive bear cub. A bloodroot leaf lies here. A small 

crystal pyramid rests nearby. A piece of dried-out kelp has been left here. Some 

irid moss has been left here. Keeping a keen eye on his surroundings, a large 

ice eagle hovers eerily here, chilling the air with his presence. Standing still 

as a statue, a blood steed has fixed its fiery red eyes on some movement in the 

distance.  The Golden Dragon Achilles' imposing form looms. Sir Darroth Vallah, 

Knight of the Aarash Kheyr is here. His face is partially concealed beneath a 

raised hood.

SHITSHITSHITDANGEROUSTWOPEOPLE

You see exits leading north, east, and south.

5475h, 4712m, 25880e, 17470w exk-c

A nearly invisible magical shield forms around Achilles.

5475h, 4712m, 25880e, 17470w exk-c

(Party): Sohl says, "Darroth stripped of SPEED."

5475h, 4712m, 25880e, 17470w exk-c

Your mind is able to focus once again.

5475h, 4712m, 25880e, 17470w exk-c

(Party): Hirst says, "Darroth HANGED."

5475h, 4712m, 25880e, 17470w exk-c

You feel a moment of disorientation as you are magically summoned.

At a sturdy village gate.

The bright sun shines down, blanketing you with its life-giving warmth. A rune 

shaped like a butterfly has been sketched into the ground here. Shuffling 

through his endless bag of vials, Rufio, the Receptacle Representative, looks 

around for more collectibles. A New Theran villager stands here at ease. A 

shimmering map of the Achaea mainland hangs in the air before you. Being careful 

not to dirty her dress, Kathlyn, a sweet Theran girl plays here quietly.  The 

Black Dragon Kard's imposing form looms.

O it's just Kard. Ty bb.

You see exits leading north and south.

Oh well.

Also. I really have to agree with Niks. Hashan started this. Feel free to surrender. Until then...enjoy.

Jarrod

There's multiple ways to look at the Hashan/*shallam 'over-the-top' actions. Did Hashan start it? Sure. Is Pit occasionally unwarranted? Sure. Is Hashan being as ridiculous as they could be if they wanted to be? Not even close.

Every time you bring more people that there are Hashani to defend, or equal numbers but higher 'stats' (arties/levels/skill), Hashan could easily ask a few members of the A-Team to swing over and help them crush you, or have multiple Occies pit your entire group sans 1 person to grief them, or various other tactics that are entirely doable, but would definitely be lame.

As is, Hashan is being the 'bigger' man by trying to fight without outside help, in a situation where *shallam is very clearly trying to farm experience (that's what it's called when you sit on a totem with beckon at defendable and force people to come outside to fight you when they're obviously disadvantaged in groups). Perhaps *shallam should take a page out of that book and bring smaller groups equivalent to the actual Hashani defense group, or by taking raids inside so most defenders won't lose experience and it can be more enjoyable on the defending side.

Caladbolg

Jarrod said:

There's multiple ways to look at the Hashan/*shallam 'over-the-top' actions. Did Hashan start it? Sure. Is Pit occasionally unwarranted? Sure. Is Hashan being as ridiculous as they could be if they wanted to be? Not even close.

Every time you bring more people that there are Hashani to defend, or equal numbers but higher 'stats' (arties/levels/skill), Hashan could easily ask a few members of the A-Team to swing over and help them crush you, or have multiple Occies pit your entire group sans 1 person to grief them, or various other tactics that are entirely doable, but would definitely be lame.

As is, Hashan is being the 'bigger' man by trying to fight without outside help, in a situation where *shallam is very clearly trying to farm experience (that's what it's called when you sit on a totem with beckon at defendable and force people to come outside to fight you when they're obviously disadvantaged in groups). Perhaps *shallam should take a page out of that book and bring smaller groups equivalent to the actual Hashani defense group, or by taking raids inside so most defenders won't lose experience and it can be more enjoyable on the defending side.

So pretty much your awful rant sums up to is Hashan's trying to be it's own city, which good for them. and Shallam/Refugees are pulling a Tanraid type situation on Hashan. I mean your entire rant is pretty much basically what happened in Shallam till everyone wanted to learn raid defense and made Shallamese alts to do so. and ended up out numbering them most of the time. I can't tell you how annoyed I got constantly seeing Newbie in raid group get lusted out and obliterated.


And this happened so often I even had an alias that would spam reject every occie that would raid with em when I was in blackout.

Dunn

Didn't you get rejected?

Caladbolg

Dunn said:

Didn't you get rejected?

Sometimes ._. But only by the ladies.

Jarrod

Caladbolg said:

So pretty much your awful rant sums up to is Hashan's trying to be it's own city, which good for them. and Shallam/Refugees are pulling a Tanraid type situation on Hashan. I mean your entire rant is pretty much basically what happened in Shallam till everyone wanted to learn raid defense and made Shallamese alts to do so. and ended up out numbering them most of the time. I can't tell you how annoyed I got constantly seeing Newbie in raid group get lusted out and obliterated.


And this happened so often I even had an alias that would spam reject every occie that would raid with em when I was in blackout.

Yes, our group that regularly brought less members than we could to even the odds, moved into the city to encourage more fights, and left after solid melee fights is totally comparable to your group that never enters the city, sits on beckon/totem, and ignores the numbers of the other side.

It's cool, someday you'll be allowed into the group you pretend to be a part of, until then it will probably just continue being hilarious to everyone else.

Niks

1562h|30%, 3898m|97%, 100%e, 97%w 14.1% (2:0) exd- 

You gasp and clutch at your throat as an unseen force crushes the breath of life out of you.

As the force subsides, you struggle to shake the smirking visage of Karai from your mind.

79h|1%(-1483), 3898m|97%, 100%e, 97%w 14.1% (2:0) exd- 

[... run and heal ...]

1512h|29%, 3998m|100%, 99%e, 97%w 14.1% (1:0) cexkd- 

You gasp and clutch at your throat as an unseen force crushes the breath of life out of you.

As the force subsides, you struggle to shake the smirking visage of Karai from your mind.

29h|0%(-1483), 3998m|100%, 99%e, 97%w 14.1% (1:0) cexkd- 

(svo): meteors: 1 launched and 1 going elsewhere

29h|0%, 3998m|100%, 99%e, 97%w 14.1% (1:0) cexkd- 

(svo): meteors: 1 launched

29h|0%, 3998m|100%, 99%e, 97%w 14.1% (1:0) cexkd|b- 

Meandering forest stream.

The stars twinkle in the clear night sky.

You see exits leading north, east, south, and west.

29h|0%, 3998m|100%, 99%e, 97%w 14.1% (1:0) cexkd- 

<| Entering: the Eastern Ithmia |>

Surrounded by evergreens.

The stars twinkle in the clear night sky. A lush, viridian plant flourishes amongst the surrounding 

vegetation.

You see exits leading north and south.

29h|0%, 3998m|100%, 99%e, 97%w 14.1% (1:0) cexkd- 

Will to live

Caladbolg

I think your ego's too big for your head your "We did this and we did that" is pretty much excuses for no one came outside Shallam and We died in melee combat. Further more you wasn't even in 90% of the raids if you was even in 10% of them.


You don't raid to give the other team an advantage you raid because you want to kill people for personal gain or roleplay. Raiding is about killing/destroying the enemy not encouraging others by lowering the amount of people you bring or moving to a location so they can win easier, Hell if that was the case why don't I just fight everyone in arash.

Cahin

Caladbolg/Draqoom *shallam now or are they still denying them?

Tvistor

I support the Caladbolg inquisition.

Achilles

Not the place to confirm or deny affiliations

Triak

You guys were denying like a week ago on the forums.  lol

Tvistor

I am confirming it, they are definitely Refugees.

But She-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named is not.

Caladbolg

to be fair, the only reason im not a Refugee is because I was highly intoxicated and went off on someone for seeing me shadowing Karai on mindnet. So in a drunken rage I quit



(4019h|84%)(2706m|83%)(19704e|89%|11183w|74%)(81S)(mir)(Lightning)(Manifest)(-120m, 3.7%)
You are:
transfixed.
deaf.
sprawled on the ground.
an insomniac.
has mild internal trauma.
bleeding for 6 health.

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|     AFFLICTED W/ MILDTRAUMA | AFFLICTED W/ MILDTRAUMA     |
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(4019h|84%)(2706m|83%)(19704e|89%|11183w|74%)(81S)(mir)(Lightning)(Manifest)(apply restoration to torso)
You take out some salve and quickly rub it on your torso.
(4019h|84%)(2706m|83%)(19704e|89%|11183w|74%)(81S)(mir)(Lightning)(Manifest)
You have writhed free of your state of transfixation. (5.516s)
(4019h|84%)(2706m|83%)(19704e|89%|11189w|74%)(81S)(mir)(Lightning)(Manifest)
Manifest takes a drink from an ebony vial.
(4019h|84%)(2706m|83%)(19704e|89%|11189w|74%)(81S)(mir)(Lightning)(Manifest)
Manifest viciously jabs an ornate steel rapier into your right leg.
You stumble as your right leg shrivels into a useless appendage.
Lightning-quick, Manifest jabs your right leg with an ornate steel rapier.

You have recovered equilibrium. (0.891s) (5.703s)
(4784h|100%)(2989m|92%)(19726e|89%|11113w|74%)(S)(mir)(Lightning)(Manifest)(apply mending to legs)(-124m, 3.8%)
With a vicious snarl Manifest carves a merciless swathe through your steaming guts. You gurgle and choke as he withdraws his
dripping blade, glistening with gore. (3.75s)
(3041h|63%)(2989m|92%)(19726e|89%|11113w|74%)(S)(mir)(Lightning)(Manifest)(outr 1 potash)(-1743h, 36.4%)
You take out some salve and quickly rub it on your legs.
The bones in your left leg mend. (0.078s)
(3041h|63%)(2989m|92%)(19726e|89%|11113w|74%)(S)(mir)(Lightning)(Manifest)


Im glad I diag on every Torso highlight I see ^_^

Karai

Caladbolg said:

You don't raid to give the other team an advantage you raid because you want to kill people for personal gain or roleplay. Raiding is about killing/destroying the enemy not encouraging others by lowering the amount of people you bring or moving to a location so they can win easier, Hell if that was the case why don't I just fight everyone in arash.

You care so hard, hon.

Needs more occies, and earrings, and dark-version of pilgrimage (not really, don't darkwalkers turn into bats or something?), some way to deal with rites. ONE active magi. Our ranged at defendable is pretty slim when they have to focus on shield/block. No complaints though, our archers were showin' them their two fingers. ffs Niks. :T

Jarrod

Caladbolg said:

I think your ego's too big for your head your "We did this and we did that" is pretty much excuses for no one came outside Shallam and We died in melee combat. Further more you wasn't even in 90% of the raids if you was even in 10% of them.


You don't raid to give the other team an advantage you raid because you want to kill people for personal gain or roleplay. Raiding is about killing/destroying the enemy not encouraging others by lowering the amount of people you bring or moving to a location so they can win easier, Hell if that was the case why don't I just fight everyone in arash.

Your right, raiding is a necessity an nobody wants to enjoy it. Your logic is bad, your grammar is bad, and you should really stop being the spokesperson until you learn some basic comprehension and sentence structure.

Raiders are raiding to have fun, and while shitting on the defense is enjoyable to some extent, winning a tough fight is much more enjoyable, and generally ensures your opponents will come back for another round, because if 1-2 things had gone differently, they would have won the fight.

Honestly though, you should just keep doing what you're doing, nobody I've talked to likes you anyways so it's not like you're hurting anything.

Achilles

Jarrod said:

There's multiple ways to look at the Hashan/*shallam 'over-the-top' actions. Did Hashan start it? Sure. Is Pit occasionally unwarranted? Sure. Is Hashan being as ridiculous as they could be if they wanted to be? Not even close.

Every time you bring more people that there are Hashani to defend, or equal numbers but higher 'stats' (arties/levels/skill), Hashan could easily ask a few members of the A-Team to swing over and help them crush you, or have multiple Occies pit your entire group sans 1 person to grief them, or various other tactics that are entirely doable, but would definitely be lame.

As is, Hashan is being the 'bigger' man by trying to fight without outside help, in a situation where *shallam is very clearly trying to farm experience (that's what it's called when you sit on a totem with beckon at defendable and force people to come outside to fight you when they're obviously disadvantaged in groups). Perhaps *shallam should take a page out of that book and bring smaller groups equivalent to the actual Hashani defense group, or by taking raids inside so most defenders won't lose experience and it can be more enjoyable on the defending side.

Pit broken mechanism as is, there's no such thing as warranted or unwarranted times to use it.

Hashan can call in their Ashtan masters, but that defeats the purpose of them being taken seriously if all we do is end up fighting Ashtan on a different battleground with a few Hashan stragglers.

Hilarious coming from you, Ashtan would sanction raid Shallam every day until it ran out of tanks, would flush them out with their superior area range and then rush said defenders (even when they had given up) at defendable.  Or would triple lust etc into a totem in El'Jazira or some other killroom tactics.

And as Niks covered, going inside Hashan isn't a real option without tanks, we would literally just sit there without monks or dopplegangers unless they were dumb enough to stand outside and die to cata/meteors.

Achilles

Triak said:

You guys were denying like a week ago on the forums.  lol

Not really the proper venue to confirm order affiliations whatever, if Draqoom or Caladbolg want to share it then its up to them but this is the kind of stuff that should be discovered in game.

Jacen

You're absolutely right, because no one ever in the history of achaea has ever complained about X person not being part of Y faction, and having no reason to fight with/defend against them.

Achilles

Jacen said:

You're absolutely right, because no one ever in the history of achaea has ever complained about X person not being part of Y faction, and having no reason to fight with/defend against them.

That certainly is a valid concern, I'm saying its not the place to discuss their affiliations.  Wouldn't it be messed up if someone posted Ourania's or Twilight's roster on forums?

Jacen

Depends on the situation. If they are actively fighting, then sure, call it out. If they're not, then don't. 

Its just a big concern to us because at this point, in my eyes at least, the Votaries have inducted every combatant they could get their hands on, and we're... well, we're Hashan. You have more combatants than we have people willing to defend.

Cahin

Achilles said:

Jarrod said:

There's multiple ways to look at the Hashan/*shallam 'over-the-top' actions. Did Hashan start it? Sure. Is Pit occasionally unwarranted? Sure. Is Hashan being as ridiculous as they could be if they wanted to be? Not even close.

Every time you bring more people that there are Hashani to defend, or equal numbers but higher 'stats' (arties/levels/skill), Hashan could easily ask a few members of the A-Team to swing over and help them crush you, or have multiple Occies pit your entire group sans 1 person to grief them, or various other tactics that are entirely doable, but would definitely be lame.

As is, Hashan is being the 'bigger' man by trying to fight without outside help, in a situation where *shallam is very clearly trying to farm experience (that's what it's called when you sit on a totem with beckon at defendable and force people to come outside to fight you when they're obviously disadvantaged in groups). Perhaps *shallam should take a page out of that book and bring smaller groups equivalent to the actual Hashani defense group, or by taking raids inside so most defenders won't lose experience and it can be more enjoyable on the defending side.

Hashan can call in their Ashtan masters, but that defeats the purpose of them being taken seriously if all we do is end up fighting Ashtan on a different battleground with a few Hashan stragglers.

To be fair, *shallam gets outside help from other cities all the time.

Jarrod

Achilles said:

Pit broken mechanism as is, there's no such thing as warranted or unwarranted times to use it.

Hashan can call in their Ashtan masters, but that defeats the purpose of them being taken seriously if all we do is end up fighting Ashtan on a different battleground with a few Hashan stragglers.

Hilarious coming from you, Ashtan would sanction raid Shallam every day until it ran out of tanks, would flush them out with their superior area range and then rush said defenders (even when they had given up) at defendable.  Or would triple lust etc into a totem in El'Jazira or some other killroom tactics.

And as Niks covered, going inside Hashan isn't a real option without tanks, we would literally just sit there without monks or dopplegangers unless they were dumb enough to stand outside and die to cata/meteors.

Yes Pit is a broken skill, there are situations where it's warranted though, such as ridiculous odds from a defensive standpoint (not saying that odds reached this level). From what I've seen, Hashan has only used Pit in defensive raids, and that could be completely wrong, but *shallam's raiding strategy doesn't leave much desirable interaction in terms of combat. Sitting at a one-room LoS border room with a totem propped and people insta-beckoning is not a fun group to deal with as defenders, especially with (in some cases) lower numbers, and less experienced people.

I agree, if they called Ashtan to help it would hurt their standing alone stance. However, they -could-, and they don't. Hashan is showing restraint, *shallam should try it.

The times Ashtan sanctioned and 5-tanked you, we did so with full defense groups possible from Shallam, or in retaliation for something. The times where Shallam didn't have a full group, we would destroy 1 room and leave. This happened multiple times. Our sanction group would have people outside the city to kill people defending who would run outside the city after defending. We never jumped uninvolved parties outside the city during/after raids, and the majority of us were extremely good at not targetting uninvolved members of Shallam, and would check regularly if new names came up to see whether they'd defended before killing them. Any of the tactics you deemed lame, such as multi-lust (stopped by monolith), were only used against ridiculous group size odds.

And as I covered, you don't need tanks to go inside Hashan to fight people. You just need a pair. *shallam very regularly has catas available, and you don't need a full complement of Monks/Occies to successfully raid a city, you just need competent people. Anyone who defended against the Qashar groups understands that you don't need Evil/Chaos factions to effectively dominate an area. Think about creating an enjoyable raiding environment (putting yourself at a numbers disadvantage to make up for arties/skill, being inside city so the opponents don't lose XP and are willing to fight) before you think about trying to gain more free XP.

Achilles

People approach us to join the Votaries, we have a badass active Goddess (who is has the best portrait!) with a heavy emphasis on combat.  And the standards to join the Votaries is not lax at all, we have a lot of established players who still have to go through the usual requirements.

Silas

Stop arguing with Jarrod.

Tvistor

Yes please.

Cahin

Achilles said:

People approach us to join the Votaries, we have a badass active Goddess (who is has the best portrait!) with a heavy emphasis on combat.  And the standards to join the Votaries is not lax at all, we have a lot of established players who still have to go through the usual requirements.

What about the people who aren't Votaries, though.

Tvistor

My client isn't at liberty to discuss that.

Jarrod

Tvistor said:

My client isn't at liberty to discuss that.

Can you confirm that you haven't stopped your lack of non-participation in anti-pacificism against the artist formerly known as Shallam?

Tvistor

Objection, Your Honor, relevance?