Combat Logs

Jacen

Zeon said:

Jacen said:

I just don't know how to balance it man. I don't want the raiding to stop, but I don't want to walk into a kill room and get slaughtered everytime. I hate it when they get bored and leave, but I don't know what else to do. I don't want them to think we're giving up or that we wished the conflict to stop, but if situations like this keep happening, they'll just stop coming.

Find the person in their group who gets the least numbers of kills (maybe they're a shaman or priest or something). Also make sure this person isn't leading the raids (the kind of person that would join for the fun of raiding or because they were ordered to by their God). Have everyone target this person and kill them over and over over. Try and do this inside your city when you can to avoid xp loss. If you need to pit everyone else to just kill this person, do it. Hit them so hard that they start to lose whole levels of experience.* Between not getting kills, spending their raid time praying, and losing experience, this person will eventually start replying "no thanks" when they get tells from the raid leader asking them if they want to bash Hashan. Once this happens focus another person and rinse and repeat. If a former victim ever decides to start raiding again, make sure to target them first and remind them how much fun you can make things for them.

If your core offensive group (if you even have one) is dedicated enough some of these things out: Try and gank this person when they're bashing as well, try and make their time in realms as unenjoyable as possible. If you have necromancers, between raids try and kill yourself to farm up nice healthy stacks of soulspears. Use breathstream + soulspear and lineofsight to instantkill this person, but make sure not to waste soulspears on any other raiders because you'll need them when the person finishes praying. Also have your occultists grab their body when they die bashing if possible, no truename is an unnecessary truename if it causes your victim anguish. At first a person might just hide in a completely safe place and try and socialize with others, trying to trick themselves into thinking they've won because you can't touch them. This is the point where you target the next weakest raiding link. Eventually your former victim will do one of two things. a) If they decide to leave their safe room and try to play Achaea, it's very important that you break them. If you don't think that they understand that they're not allowed to enjoy doing ANYTHING outside their city without travelling 10 men deep, then you need to keep at it. b) They'll grow bored of talking on clans and idling in one room, so they'll qq. The latter is really what you're hoping for and if they do decide to show their face in the realms again one, you can probably give them a break because their will has already been broken.

*This is hard with the no prayer xp loss, but still possible. When Ashtan took down icons last I lost like 90-120% of level 95 in the few hours it lasted (the entire war was like 24 hours or something absurd like that).

Thanks a lot bro. Refugees took your advice

Jarrod

I'm merely creating a basis to cross-examine your reliability as an examiner.

Cahin

I don't think Zinka can be a Votary and in Phaestus' order.

Oh well, she helps Eleusis, too.

and to think of it, less than a week ago she island raided Mhaldor with Hhaos and Tzond.  Must be a pretty stressful life for her with all those factions.

eta: damn, I just wanted to start some forum drama and now they are making me look Hashani.

Jacen

Annnndddddd Zinka's a votary now too? Or am I not allowed to ask that on forums?

Hhaos

So, raiding got boring so your going after us with groups of 5 against 2 people which only became three once the teams were no longer even? GG guys, abuse your little saferoom more after the fact, and if you are lucky, the admin will let you keep it!

Jacen

Oh no! You got ganked 1v1... How terrible.

Achilles

Zinka isn't, you should probably ask her to butt out ICly.

Don't know what the safe room has to do with anything, pilging/earring/raidoing back into a city with a guard stack is the same thing.

Mishgul

Achilles said:

Zinka isn't, you should probably ask her to butt out ICly.

Don't know what the safe room has to do with anything, pilging/earring/raidoing back into a city with a guard stack is the same thing.

Ive completed many contracts on guardstacks. All you need is 12 starbursts and cocaine

Cahin

Achilles said:

Zinka isn't, you should probably ask her to butt out ICly.

To be fair, the onus there really falls on *shallam. 

Jacen

Funny how if an Ashtani helps Hashan out, its all "Oh no, you cheaters, so unfair!" But if a non votary/refugee helps votaries/refugees, its " yeah, you should tell her to butt out yourselves, its your problem, not our responsibility".

Achilles

I'm not involved in the current skirmish, I have no idea why Zinka is helping in this particular battle.  You could simply ask her what she's doing and I'm sure she'll back off.  

Tvistor

We're dealing with it, man.

Eld

Daeir said:

Oh, go be angry somewhere else.

Hey @Eld, do you have the log of your gank on me in Delos? My mudlet crashed shortly afterwards and I didn't really get a chance to see what happened and why I wasn't doing well.. anything.

Sure, I'll send it to you when things settle down a bit.

Jarrod

Achilles said:

Zinka isn't, you should probably ask her to butt out ICly.

Don't know what the safe room has to do with anything, pilging/earring/raidoing back into a city with a guard stack is the same thing.

This is probably the single most ignorant thing I've read on the forums in multiple days, and I read that log of Jibrix.

Achilles

Jarrod said:

Achilles said:

Zinka isn't, you should probably ask her to butt out ICly.

Don't know what the safe room has to do with anything, pilging/earring/raidoing back into a city with a guard stack is the same thing.

This is probably the single most ignorant thing I've read on the forums in multiple days, and I read that log of Jibrix.

Confirmation you don't read the shit you post then.

Jarrod

You consider standing on guards that don't move themselves to standing in a room where you're literally immune to any hostile effect.

I always considered you pretty ignorant of anything relevant in Achaea, but I do enjoy confirmation now and again, thanks!

Achilles

Earring to atop a battlement from New Hope provides the same exact practical safety as earring to a safe room.  Out of area is out of area.

Silas

God damn it, I said stop arguing with Jarrod.

Jacen

@Jarrod please join Hashan?

Achilles

@Silas - fine fine.

Jarrod

@Silas - Don't stop him it's funny

@Jacen - I can't I'm sorry

@Achilles - gdi, I lol'd

Jacen

Achilles said:

Earring to atop a battlement from New Hope provides the same exact practical safety as earring to a safe room.  Out of area is out of area.

What just happened to us could not have happened if the situation was reversed and you were in saferoom. Saferoom defies ALL retaliation methods, no matter how much you're willing to risk.

Achilles

Jacen said:

Achilles said:

Earring to atop a battlement from New Hope provides the same exact practical safety as earring to a safe room.  Out of area is out of area.

What just happened to us could not have happened if the situation was reversed and you were in saferoom. Saferoom defies ALL retaliation methods, no matter how much you're willing to risk.

If we had a city proper we would just enter sewer grate.  They gave us a temporary home with no area boundaries.  If you guys show up in New Hope we would (after waking up of course) come fight you on the Isle.

Cahin

If you guys want to force *shallam to come of the saferoom just start smudging all their totems.  If that doesn't work start pulling them out of the ground.

Niks

Haha

Neither Ashtan or Hashan lasted long enough today to even smudge one. Got kicked out way early and never came back. Bring it on I say

Sohl

Tvistor

Sohl said:

Why do you do this Niks? Why?

Silas

And just after he posted:

Niks puts a suit of splint mail into a bag of stasis.
Niks bids farewell to his guardian angel.
The guardian angel shimmers silently away.
Niks grows still and his lips begin to move silently.

Tvistor

Communist.

Mizik

Oooh, Zinka jumping into the dog-pile?

+1 Miz-train rolling in!