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@Sarapis, I'm sure that if there were a lower grade variant of the Iron Elite membership it would be attractive to those who can't quite manage (or aren't quite ready to commit to) the Iron Elite monthly subscription cost. I think if a $10-15/mth subscription had been available when I first started I would never have left. Food for thought (I'm sure you guys mull over these things all the time).
It's very late so I can't really think of a balanced approach, but being able to customize Elite would probably make a lot of people very happy.
@Sarapis: I plan on it, if I ever get bored of Nim!
Where I see this as a problem is proxy servers and the like, and people being general @$$hats and using the system to get more CR for their buck. I know all this is general economy, but I would like to see some general understanding for the countries with lower exchange rates.
It's a long shot.. but hey. This isn't how the world works. Nowhere makes exceptions for exchange rates. But maybe.. just maybe..
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That number seems pretty low for that level. I can generally make 15-20k without doing any quests. You might need to try a couple some harder things for a better gold payout. It also sounds like you are also asking the wrong people about quests. Most Housemates are more than willing to help out on minor quests such as turning in corpses for gold. The honours quests are the only ones that are usually kept quiet. How have you been phrasing your questions about them?
20k an hour is more reasonable, and I've given explicit examples of how/where plenty of times.
I have no idea how to make anywhere near that much gold from just bashing at level 80. I barely get enough to cover the tonics/balms/minerals used.
Most of the good places for gold are easy to learn. I learned the quests in Ilyrean in about twenty minutes, someone taught me the quests in Inbhir Ness in about 10 minutes, and the quests in Ulangi took me a day or two to learn as an actual newbie who'd been playing the game for less than a month. I learned most of the quests on Mysia in about half an hour, and accidentally stumbled onto the rest later without actually looking for them. All of these give a lot of gold, and are very easy to learn, mostly just finding/killing things and giving them to denizens who might want them, and occasionally greeting a denizen.
I've never had a problem getting help from city/guild/house-mates, and I've taught the few novices who've asked how to better earn gold.
Edit: In general, I do agree that making it more viable for new players to learn quests is a good idea. One of the biggest problems is probably not knowing that the quests exist in the first place, and thus not knowing whether you're failing to find something or there's just nothing to find. And in some cases, you don't even know when you've finished a quest, since it's not obvious whether or not there's more that can be done.
Most rl world matters are decided along the lines of exchanging time for money. For example, you might argue that going to a restaurant to eat is more expensive than eating at home. If, however, you are a senior Microsoft executive, spending 1-2 hours more at work and eating in a restaurant actually makes you more money than it would to spend those 1-2 hours cooking. I saw this argument plastered in a major restaurant, it's not my argument but I personally agree with it.
I totally get that most of us are not senior Microsoft executives, but the concept still applies. A lot of people tell me they don't have the money for 25 dollars of Elite, and I totally get that too. But, some of them then spend hours and hours and hours trying to gain virtual currency by hunting and questing for that time period. Some of them get tired, stressed out and frustrated, kinda like working a job. Elite gives you 150 cr a rl month, 5 lessons per rl day, (so 150 lessons a rl month,) and a 25% experience bonus for 25 a rl month. To me at least, it is logical that working some job for a few extra hours, even part time, will get you the 25 dollars for Elite, and all of its benefits, easier than attempting to get those same benefits by hunting or questing. I am not saying this applies to the 2000 cr package on the site, but in my opinion working a job -- any job -- with some of those in-game hours to get 25 bucks to save countless hours of grinding will make the game easier and more enjoyable... and also free up all those hours for other in-game tasks that perhaps are more enjoyable than getting elixir/balm/tonic money. 25 for a month of Elite is something that can be gotten in one day in a minimum wage job, the virtual currency equivalents to what Elite gives cannot be gotten in one day in the game itself.
I am not sure if everybody (or even anybody) will agree with this stance, but it's served me in the past, personally.
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Like ultimately you are talking about pretty classical problems with price discrimination, it's to IRE's benefit if they could implement something like this but for a lot of technical reasons you probably just can't. Not to mention it's really, really questionable how many people who live in a developing country would play Achaea (an English-text based MUD). Like obviously they would play something visual based like WoW a lot, but the language level required for Achaea is something else altogether.
Because I never had problems with getting guild members telling me where/how I should be farming gold.
But yeah, seems to me that the given number of 25k-40k/hr questing is greatly exaggerated and is implicitly based on the assumption that nobody else is farming those quests at the same time.
Like you want to retain enough so things don't get lonely for the paying players, but really, a non-paying player doesn't generate any profit beyond that. Maybe lowering prices will also generate more paying customers but retaining players for the sake of retaining players or at expense of profits make no sense for a business.
Archdragon Mizik Corten, Herald of Ruin says, "Man, that was a big axk."
Hellrazor Cain de Soulis, Sartan's Hammer says, "Your [sic] a beast."
That would be interesting if only to see how much of an effect it would have on the credit market.