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Gem and Veil (and Hood) Changes

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  • KryptonKrypton shi-KhurenaPosts: 2,377Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited January 12
    Shub said:
    That's all I really want out of stealth artefacts, to hide from the big killers in the dangerous areas (within reason of course), to make them have to patrol the rooms and pull me out of hiding instead of waiting for their dinner bell to ring.
    Annwyn has not changed much in that respect.

    Gem still completely prevents anyone knowing you're there through QW, and owning the old Veil only stopped the few non-Veil owners frequenting Annwyn from finding you.

    Ethereal shroud does not really do anything for you. If you suspect someone is in Annwyn with you, you will see them on FARSEE without needing shroud/Veil now.
    (Mhaldor): Herenicus says, "Apologies, I am in-and-out of hold with Verizon wireless customer service."
  • AntidasAntidas Posts: 1,460Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Nazihk said:

    anybody worth hiding from already owned one. 

    :_( 

    Cobault
  • LennLenn Posts: 123Member ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    If the gem automatically hides you from QW when you go to a treacherous plane, isn't this actually a liability? Everyone can figure out who has a gem now, and now when you disappear from QW, someone with a veil can freely check (with no real downside unless you're still around) why you disappeared. o.o
  • KryptonKrypton shi-KhurenaPosts: 2,377Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited January 12
    Everyone on Annwyn/Nishnatoba disappears from QW for people on Sapience - gem owners or not. (The Gem hides you on QW from other people on Annwyn/Nish.)

    Right now, if someone you know is logged in (not counting journal/news) doesn't show on QW, it means 6 things: phased, using their 10-minute Tulahuar, chameleon'd, commscreen'd, burrowed, or on Annwyn/Nish.
    (Mhaldor): Herenicus says, "Apologies, I am in-and-out of hold with Verizon wireless customer service."
    AtalkezLenn
  • AtalkezAtalkez Posts: 4,691Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Or on ship with commscreen right?


    You hug Aurora compassionately.
  • ShirszaeShirszae Santo DomingoPosts: 2,987Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    My only question is whether sensing into Nish/Annwyn and such is intended or not for Veil farsee. Probably the one thing I would disagree with 

    And you won't understand the cause of your grief...


    ...But you'll always follow the voices beneath.

    DunnAntidas
  • LennLenn Posts: 123Member ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Oh, sorry, I thought people on treacherous planes showed in QW and WHO now. The end result is true, but at least not as a penalty for having an artefact. ^^;
  • RangorRangor Posts: 3,067Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Fullsense is awesome! thanks!

    Thank you for making Achaea great again!

    Not sure why we need room names on people out of our area with farsee, fullsense and being able to farsee people far away is still awesome. On other continents it should probably say "On Nishnatoba", then when you get to Nishnatoba you see "Forgotten Library", then when you get to the forgotten library it'd say "In the stream next to the icon!".

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    KietShirszae
  • AtalkezAtalkez Posts: 4,691Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Logs in once a month, already trying to mess up a good thing.


    You hug Aurora compassionately.
  • KietKiet Posts: 2,827Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    He's got a point though
    ShirszaeAralayaAntidasSherazad
  • AtalkezAtalkez Posts: 4,691Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    No he doesn’t, you go away too :angry:


    You hug Aurora compassionately.
  • AralayaAralaya Posts: 1,043Member @ - Epic Achaean
    edited January 12
    He does have a point Atalkez.
    #ImWithRangor


    Tecton-Today at 6:17 PM

    teehee b.u.t.t. pirates
    Shirszae
  • AntoniusAntonius Posts: 4,499Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Aralaya said:
    He does have a point Atalkez.
    #ImWithRangor
    This conversation is for ages 14 and up.
    AtalkezTreyCaelanHalos
  • CorentinCorentin Posts: 10Member
    What about the level 2 veils that existed? Do they get to farsee irl now?
  • KietKiet Posts: 2,827Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    You see that Corentin is in his bedroom in (redacted)
  • RangorRangor Posts: 3,067Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Gonna come back and gank you IG, or maybe drop by your houses instead!
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  • DunnDunn The great Buffalo tundraPosts: 5,918Member, Secret Squirrel @@ - Legendary Achaean
    You’d have to actually play tho


    AtalkezRangor
  • PrythePrythe Posts: 466Member ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Atalkez said:
    The Veil is entirely better now that it was yesterday.
    If you don't mind explaining - I assume it is better for those who actively PK, but for somebody like me who only bought one so that I could find somebody when asked it is no longer really needed? 


    - To love another person is to see the face of G/d
    - Let me get my hat and my knife
    - It's your apple, take a bite
    - Don't dream it ... be it


  • DunnDunn The great Buffalo tundraPosts: 5,918Member, Secret Squirrel @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Yes, because you can find anyone due to no one being hidden by veil. However, it will be helpful to find people offplane, which is a state that we are seeing a large increase of with the tree 


    Shirszae
  • PrythePrythe Posts: 466Member ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Dunn said:
    Yes, because you can find anyone due to no one being hidden by veil. However, it will be helpful to find people offplane, which is a state that we are seeing a large increase of with the tree 
    Aha. Thank you!

    - To love another person is to see the face of G/d
    - Let me get my hat and my knife
    - It's your apple, take a bite
    - Don't dream it ... be it


  • AtalkezAtalkez Posts: 4,691Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Like Dunn said, it still serves that second use you mentioned. A friend is looking for someone, but before even with Veil they could hide because off plane or ship etc.

    Now you can find them off plane and on ships, so it actually serves that role much better.


    You hug Aurora compassionately.
    Prythe
  • CedeCede Posts: 9Member
    Six pages and nobody asked about the new functionality of the level 2 veil that only @Profit got?
  • KietKiet Posts: 2,827Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Gem should get trade possibility given it got shafted way harder :'(
    MinifieAustereSerin
  • TreyTrey Posts: 4,629Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Cede said:
    Six pages and nobody asked about the new functionality of the level 2 veil that only @Profit got?
    Should go back and read some more.

    Trey said:
    Not that it's super relevant @Makarios @Nicola, but what was done to Profit's veil to make it a "level 2", and will combining veils and shrouds work similarly to the same effect?

    Cede
  • CedeCede Posts: 9Member
    edited January 13
    Trey said:
    Cede said:
    Six pages and nobody asked about the new functionality of the level 2 veil that only @Profit got?
    Should go back and read some more.

    Yeah, I was scanning for a blue @Profit, not reading properly. Thanks!

    Edit: Tempted to alter my original comment to, "Six pages and nobody answered about the new functionality of the level 2 veil that @Profit got?" but I'll put it here instead.
  • MinifieMinifie Posts: 1,902Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Kiet said:
    Gem should get trade possibility given it got shafted way harder :'(
    400 cr tradin for other arties, I need 4 flowerpots!


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  • JonathinJonathin Retirement hole.Posts: 3,289Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Flowerdor will rise again?

    My site will remain up, but will not be maintained. The repository will continue to have scripts added to it if I decide to play another game. Maybe I'll see you around in Starmourn!
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