Gem and Veil (and Hood) Changes

Krypton

Shub said:

That's all I really want out of stealth artefacts, to hide from the big killers in the dangerous areas (within reason of course), to make them have to patrol the rooms and pull me out of hiding instead of waiting for their dinner bell to ring.

Annwyn has not changed much in that respect.

Gem still completely prevents anyone knowing you're there through QW, and owning the old Veil only stopped the few non-Veil owners frequenting Annwyn from finding you.

Ethereal shroud does not really do anything for you. If you suspect someone is in Annwyn with you, you will see them on FARSEE without needing shroud/Veil now.

Antidas

Nazihk said:

anybody worth hiding from already owned one. 

:_( 

Lenn

If the gem automatically hides you from QW when you go to a treacherous plane, isn't this actually a liability? Everyone can figure out who has a gem now, and now when you disappear from QW, someone with a veil can freely check (with no real downside unless you're still around) why you disappeared. o.o

Krypton

Everyone on Annwyn/Nishnatoba disappears from QW for people on Sapience - gem owners or not. (The Gem hides you on QW from other people on Annwyn/Nish.)

Right now, if someone you know is logged in (not counting journal/news) doesn't show on QW, it means 6 things: phased, using their 10-minute Tulahuar, chameleon'd, commscreen'd, burrowed, or on Annwyn/Nish.

Atalkez

Or on ship with commscreen right?

Shirszae

My only question is whether sensing into Nish/Annwyn and such is intended or not for Veil farsee. Probably the one thing I would disagree with 

Lenn

Oh, sorry, I thought people on treacherous planes showed in QW and WHO now. The end result is true, but at least not as a penalty for having an artefact. ^^;

Rangor

Fullsense is awesome! thanks!

Thank you for making Achaea great again!

Not sure why we need room names on people out of our area with farsee, fullsense and being able to farsee people far away is still awesome. On other continents it should probably say "On Nishnatoba", then when you get to Nishnatoba you see "Forgotten Library", then when you get to the forgotten library it'd say "In the stream next to the icon!".

Antonius

Rangor said:

Not sure why we need room names on people out of our area with farsee, fullsense and being able to farsee people far away is still awesome. On other continents it should probably say "On Nishnatoba", then when you get to Nishnatoba you see "Forgotten Library", then when you get to the forgotten library it'd say "In the stream next to the icon!".

Nobody asked you.

Dunn

Go away @Rangor

Atalkez

Logs in once a month, already trying to mess up a good thing.

Kiet

He's got a point though

Atalkez

No he doesn’t, you go away too

Aralaya

He does have a point Atalkez.
#ImWithRangor

Antonius

Aralaya said:

He does have a point Atalkez.
#ImWithRangor

This conversation is for ages 14 and up.

Corentin

What about the level 2 veils that existed? Do they get to farsee irl now?

Kiet

You see that Corentin is in his bedroom in (redacted)

Rangor

Gonna come back and gank you IG, or maybe drop by your houses instead!

Dunn

You’d have to actually play tho

Prythe

Atalkez said:

The Veil is entirely better now that it was yesterday.

If you don't mind explaining - I assume it is better for those who actively PK, but for somebody like me who only bought one so that I could find somebody when asked it is no longer really needed? 

Dunn

Yes, because you can find anyone due to no one being hidden by veil. However, it will be helpful to find people offplane, which is a state that we are seeing a large increase of with the tree 

Prythe

Dunn said:

Yes, because you can find anyone due to no one being hidden by veil. However, it will be helpful to find people offplane, which is a state that we are seeing a large increase of with the tree 

Aha. Thank you!

Atalkez

Like Dunn said, it still serves that second use you mentioned. A friend is looking for someone, but before even with Veil they could hide because off plane or ship etc.

Now you can find them off plane and on ships, so it actually serves that role much better.

Tahquil

The compromise offered by the admin is very well thought out, addressing concerns of both those who bought and the admin concern of inflating the credit reserves of people during an auction.

Cede

Six pages and nobody asked about the new functionality of the level 2 veil that only @Profit got?

Kiet

Gem should get trade possibility given it got shafted way harder

Trey

Cede said:

Six pages and nobody asked about the new functionality of the level 2 veil that only @Profit got?

Should go back and read some more.

Trey said:

Not that it's super relevant @Makarios @Nicola, but what was done to Profit's veil to make it a "level 2", and will combining veils and shrouds work similarly to the same effect?

Cede

Trey said:

Cede said:

Six pages and nobody asked about the new functionality of the level 2 veil that only @Profit got?

Should go back and read some more.

Yeah, I was scanning for a blue @Profit, not reading properly. Thanks!

Edit: Tempted to alter my original comment to, "Six pages and nobody answered about the new functionality of the level 2 veil that @Profit got?" but I'll put it here instead.

Minifie

Kiet said:

Gem should get trade possibility given it got shafted way harder

400 cr tradin for other arties, I need 4 flowerpots!

Jonathin

Flowerdor will rise again?