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I do agree Font and Guards push the advantage to defenders, but only if they use these tools. Without them, an entrenched group has the advantage. Sometimes straight up melee won't go well and prisming isn't a good idea. There's times you have to whittle down numbers with LoS first, or you can't risk rushing into a totem. Announcing you're coming through prism only generally works if you know for sure you can win. Most often, Targossas uses Farrah or Tesha to fly in, then the rest earrings in. It helps that even if Farrah gets taken out, she can revive herself and get back in there. It's a solid tactic, but not all groups will have access to that!
Also, I will say that I prefer raids that have gone back and forth. Even when a tank in Mhaldor gets blown up, I'll tell my dudes they did well for wiping out the 'heathens' three times first. When we lose three times and win the last skirmish, I more consider it saving our honour rather than winning, but then I generally don't shout to declare victory either.
All cities bring more guys for a raid or a skirmish after losing a fight. Most of the time they do this to try and make things more even, since they just got wiped out, but it's hard to see that intent and a lot easier to assume it's done because they "just don't want to lose". I see that perception in my own team too when other cities do it. But I also acknowledge people will flock in when a sanction happens, even uninvited. Every city that raids does this, without exception. There are individuals on EVERY side that can lose five times in a row, or contribute little to nothing to a group, and still shout their superiority. But I can see why mentioning Mhaldor specifically several times ruffles some feathers. Mhaldor is certainly no worse in any of these things, but neither is it any better. You only have some individuals on each side that make an effort.
Edit: you're arguing whether or not Mhaldor adds players during a raid when they start to lose. Answer that
This happened, whether you like it or not, even if you want to believe that we do it 100% of the time just to "be right" on a forum. You are wrong though.
I like Mindshell's (think it was his, not going back to look) idea that the sanction starts when the tank is placed - and ends when it is disarmed or blown up. Why wouldn't that work? If they want to regroup and come back, do so. No?
Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
Say "people don't usually" etc etc all you want. Making blanket absolute statements is inviting contradiction.
ETA: re: losing, after Dochitha came and CFH'd us right off the bat, I didn't grab people to guard bash Cyrene, which I absolutely could've. We also got wiped in Eleusis a couple weeks ago and moved to skirmishing in the Ithmia/defendable rather than bringing more and setting a tank down elsewhere.
worldwide for disarm is fine as long as it's aa unassuming as blowing the tank is! No need for theatrics
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Cheers ring out as the defenders of $City defeat the raiders from $AttackerCity.
Tecton-Today at 6:17 PM
Then again Cyrene's defense is still learning and growing. I remember when the army would ask if people wanted to help defend, and were only met with silence. Myself being included, voiding any participation.
Raids can be intimidating.
But it's been fun jumping into the fray lately. When we're organised, fights are more engaging for everyone. When we're taxed and frustrated, things fall apart. Something each city experiences.
I do wish things were a bit more involved for both parties. Different kind of sanctions for certain tactics.
I still like the idea that tanks have specific descriptions for each city, with unique global announcements for explosion/disarm though.
In partiular, I liked Penwize's 1hr-delayed city-wide 'worldburn', but didn't see that discussed much. In my experience, most players were eager to defend at first, it's the extended durations of raids that drag on that discourage casual combatants over time. A hard cap on how long a sanction can run would go a long way to keep defenders from simply getting burned out when facing committed raiders. (and thus avoiding future defenses) Maybe 1 hour is a fair window, maybe 2 hours, but a timer (font or inherent to the sanction) that says "Time's up, home team wins" and ends the sanction is a fair, classy way to reward a successful defense and wish the raiders better luck next time. Naturally, the city should be immune to sanctions (from the same aggressor) for a time so that defenders get their deserved break.
RE: Entrenchment: I agree that it's odd that the defense is usually the side faced with rooting out an entrenched opponent. What if a random location in the city was called out as the 'objective' of the raid when the sanction was declared? Say that there's currently some nexus of shifting ley lines at that location, which the fire elemental needs to grow. Analogous to an arena KotH, this removes the raiders' ability to chose their ideal location and entrench there pre-emptively, and allows the defense a chance to actually set up a 'defense' of the objective. Peripheral factors:
Also, I dislike that kind of 'random target' set up for raiding because it puts a lot of the raid success onto the RNG, so much so that it could become the prime determinant of raid success. It would suck to get a raid group together and then draw something you don't have a chance of tanking, just like it would suck to get a strong raid group together and then get restricted to tanking East Bumfuck Alley.
Besides, in most of the raids I saw, East Bumfuck Alley was the target of choice regardless of group size. If it was ever important to gather a big group and tank a specific location, I feel like Someone Powerful could arrange that.
Random tank location would be such a catastrophe.
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