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  • VikaVika Member Posts: 115 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Nylian said:
    How fast are the artie throwing axes (roughly) for non jugglers?
    225/232/242 are the artie speeds, how does that translate to seconds?

    Did a search and learned a few things about throwing axes but not the speeds of 'em!
    If anything, just message (or is it issue) Makarios asking to borrow each one when you're online for 10-15 minutes. You cannot under any circumstances use it during combat or a duel, but you can test them all out on someone.
    Khurgen
  • NylianNylian Member Posts: 124 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    He let me borrow 'em.  I promised I'd post back here with averages. :)

    225 - Sylvan Axe: 2.1766s average
    232 - Axe of the hunt: 2.0384s average
    242 - Axe of Gaian Fury: 1.8371s average

    Thanks Makarios!
    CailinRomDochitha
  • KeorinKeorin Member Posts: 753 @ - Epic Achaean
    is there a way to stop cowardice from blocking tumbles, or is apostate practically speaking just impossible to tumble against?
  • PyoriPyori Member Posts: 1,681 @ - Epic Achaean
    Pretty sure that's cowardice's entire purpose in pvp. Much like noise for bard.

  • VikaVika Member Posts: 115 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Doesn't work if prone or paralyzed, I believe
  • SenaSena Member Posts: 3,957 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Vika said:
    Doesn't work if prone or paralyzed, I believe
    That was changed last year, cowardice breaks tumble even if you can't move now.
    Dunn
  • CamrothCamroth Member Posts: 96 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Assuming I ever find time to play one day. Which is a better upgrade for 1v1 pvp dwc runewarden. I have 17max str without fury and +1 scimitars. +1 str gauntlets or +2 scimitars? 
  • DridenDriden Member Posts: 410 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Camroth said:
    Assuming I ever find time to play one day. Which is a better upgrade for 1v1 pvp dwc runewarden. I have 17max str without fury and +1 scimitars. +1 str gauntlets or +2 scimitars? 
    defense arties. sip rings anything to make you harder to kill. infinitely more valuable than most offense stuffs IMO. 
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    This is one of the worst forms of special snowflake RP I've ever seen. Thanks for going to another city to do it!
  • KietKiet Member Posts: 3,263 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Defence is worthless if you can't threaten your opponent. Knights are tanky enough without defensive arties, and dwc can hinder fairly well with double aff + runed rooms.

    You don't win fights by tanking damage, at most you just don't lose them. You should be aiming to win, not 'not lose.' It's no coincidence that almost every good but low budget fighter prioritized at least arty weapons/offensive stats before going for tankiness beyond a soa or the like.

    Tankiness is a lot more important in group pvp, imo, because in 1v1 there's very few situations where you're gonna tank a proper setup much better without investing a ton into defensive arties. You're gonna get owned by artied dwb with a level 1 belt or without, but the +1 strength makes the difference in actually being able to do anything to the person.

    That said, Antonius's sig has a chart somehwere of dsb threshholds. Aim to be at 100% or close to it when accounting for runeblades, strength-wise. As long as level 1 scims are fast enough to pull off setups (they should be, but I dunno for sure), strength is the priority.
    ShirszaeCamroth
  • PyoriPyori Member Posts: 1,681 @ - Epic Achaean
    edited November 2018
    Kiet said:

    That said, Antonius's sig has a chart somehwere of dsb threshholds. Aim to be at 100% or close to it when accounting for runeblades, strength-wise. As long as level 1 scims are fast enough to pull off setups (they should be, but I dunno for sure), strength is the priority.
    Difference between forged and Lv1 is noticeable. Difference between Lv1 and Lv2 isn't much to write home about. Difference between Lv1 and LV3 is noticeable.
    Get strength to make your consistent damage higher, and your finisher more reliable. Unless you're wanting to cheese with focus locks and pithakhan, then get lv2 scims for more speed (nothing major, but more nonetheless)

  • ElisellaElisella Member Posts: 186 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Anyone have a list of proc chances for runeblades?
  • MinifieMinifie Member Posts: 2,295 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Elisella said:
    Anyone have a list of proc chances for runeblades?
    100% when other people have them, 0% when they are mine.


    (Mhaldor's Next Top Model): Taryius says, "Oops, thats not a foray. Thats two novices going at it in the wilderness."
    CaelanShirszae
  • ElisellaElisella Member Posts: 186 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Minifie said:
    Elisella said:
    Anyone have a list of proc chances for runeblades?
    100% when other people have them, 0% when they are mine.
    I had honestly assumed the only 100% proc rate was on a prone mangled leg hit from an L3 flail.
  • PyoriPyori Member Posts: 1,681 @ - Epic Achaean
    Only one I know for sure, is nairat being guaranteed on prone targets.
    Beyond that I'd guess somewhere around 10-15% proc chance (would be in line with SoA's "low" proc rate).

  • AereidhnaAereidhna DallasMember Posts: 682 ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    Not quite a combat question, but arena-related - anyone have insight into jousting? Theoretically, it should be skill in riding + steed level, but Selto and I just jousted twice with the same skill in riding, and I had a lower steed level, but I beat him almost every round. What gives?
  • ShirszaeShirszae Santo DomingoMember Posts: 3,171 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Delos jousting is a bit more complicated, I think. It depends on what you choose to do versus what your opponent does as well, I think.

    And you won't understand the cause of your grief...


    ...But you'll always follow the voices beneath.

    Aereidhna
  • AereidhnaAereidhna DallasMember Posts: 682 ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    Shirszae said:
    Delos jousting is a bit more complicated, I think. It depends on what you choose to do versus what your opponent does as well, I think.
    Thanks! There were times when we did the exact same actions with similar timing, so it just seemed really strange. I did some forums digging and it looks like mount weight and flying/not might be a substantial factor, which would explain a lot. His mount was 750ish lbs lighter than mine, and both were flying, but his was legendary and mine was not. Also maybe the lance makes a difference - I noticed that I forged a lot of 'exceptional' lances recently.
  • TelinusTelinus Member Posts: 254 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Excuse the format, but maybe someone can help - Rangor at 5993 health takes 7 DSL's to break his leg (confirmed 13th single slash line to break). If I just slash with my Scimitar it takes 16 individual slashes (equivalent to 8 dsl's) to break - is this a bug or has something changed in the way limb damage is calculated by DSL?
     
    Logs below:
    7 DSL log (14 slashes, broke on 13th)

    16 slash log (16 slashes broke on 16th)


  • AntoniusAntonius Member Posts: 4,866 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited December 2018
    DOUBLESLASH isn't two SLASHes stuck together, so yes, they have different calculations for limb damage (and health damage, if I recall correctly). That isn't a bug, and it isn't a recent change.
  • MinifieMinifie Member Posts: 2,295 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Test hitting him with 14 RSLs instead.


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  • TelinusTelinus Member Posts: 254 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Antonius said:
    DOUBLESLASH isn't two SLASHes stuck together, so yes, they have different calculations for limb damage (and health damage, if I recall correctly). That isn't a bug, and it isn't a recent change.
    Ah ok, thanks Antonius - how doe sit calculate a slash missing, half the DSL damage?
  • AntoniusAntonius Member Posts: 4,866 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    If you're using weapons with the same damage stat, each hit should be worth half of the total. You should count individual slashes rather than full doubleslashes (i.e. 13 rather than 6.5 or 7).
  • DochithaDochitha Member Posts: 1,398 @ - Epic Achaean
    7 DSLs break at the 13th hit. You can also do 13 RSLs to break. 

    RSL is the one hit for DSL is the 2 hits.

    Slashes however is not the same limb damage. Should use RSL .

  • RiellRiell Member Posts: 209 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Do Psions have a form of all-resist?
  • VinzentVinzent Member Posts: 157 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Secondskin.
  • RiellRiell Member Posts: 209 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Vinzent said:
    Secondskin.
    Thanks!
  • LavandaLavanda Member Posts: 24 ✭✭ - Stalwart
    What's the shortest and longest possible pesante stun?
  • DochithaDochitha Member Posts: 1,398 @ - Epic Achaean
    Lavanda said:
    What's the shortest and longest possible pesante stun?
    Pesante is very brief, should be under .5s. But you may be getting hit by percussia, which is about 1s stun. 
    Lavanda
  • JovoloJovolo EnglandMember Posts: 3,164 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Anyone have code for the limb formula for a Runewarden? Anything that can predict the hits needed for a limb to break with 53/52 damage weapons taking into account Laguz. Thaaanks
  • ProficyProficy Member Posts: 384 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Forging weapon stats make no noticable difference, even with the extra stat point. The increase for a scimitar in speed from baseline to level one arte is .1 seconds and that's a few points in speed increase, so a single stat point is not noticable. I am not entirely sure what the benefit is, or if there is one. 

    So basically the formula would be the same on tour forged weapons as it is with all forged weapons. That would be defendant on your targets health completely as nothing else goes into effect. You just have to figure out at what health level specifically raises the break point to the next hit
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