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Shrine Phase 3/Crusades - Final Form!
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And ask questions. Especially the stupid ones. @Farrah @Karren deal with my ridiculously newbish questions daily.
The essential truth of a "crucible of grief" culture is very different than a "keep trying to get better" culture. The first might have some aspects of a "keep trying to get better" culture (like people willing to give tips) but it's a whole different attitude.
A crucible of grief culture says "if I can make it, and become part of that top tier, it was obviously ALL my hard work, you're all just lazy cowards who need to keep getting owned more", except... people are always bragging about how "easy" something or other was for them to master in the first place, while others continue to struggle with basics. Except in a situation like right now, where the talent aspect is sort of being called on the carpet, in a way. And even if they don't brag, the sheer ease with which they progress is usually apparent. Yeah, they get owned in the beginning, but they are able to keep progressing without ever really getting "stuck" (for long) the way most people do. That is talent.
But most importantly, the other side of that coin is that if you don't have the talent to eventually be a true competitor in a "crucible of grief", but you keep going back for more, you're basically a sucker. Because that system ultimately views everyone who isn't top tier or going to BECOME top tier as disposable.
R u doin it wrong?
If you want to do group combat, all you have to do is accept the combat culture that comes with it. You don't have to be top tier or be "griefed." Like, if you help kill Proficy, know that you're going to be considered by him to "owe" him a death. As long as you don't care about that death, there's not really any harm or anything following you around eternally.
The softies like me don't even collect that death, unless there's a writ, bounty, or contract on you over it. But worst case is pretty much one death after everything.
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Could we perhaps have a way to access Nishnatoba during a Crusade, without the need of having an order member on prime to do so?
It can be a bit frustrating either waiting for an order member to wake up or requiring one to have to jump back on prime to haul the asses of those that woke up/returned from halls.
The landing spot could be the portal location in Nish, or some other generic spot up there.
Ideas of how this could be made possible:
1. When a crusade starts, a portal opens at the Shrine of Ascension, of which any can enter to access Nish
2. When a crusade starts, one can go to the shrine of ascension and put in some command (Let us say TRANSCEND NISHNATOBA) which will begin a 10 second channel from them to be transported to nish
3. New small artifact that will allow one to enter Nish from their location during a crusade, after a small channel.
4. Go to Tomacula and touch the statue of Khalas to be transported (Would be wrong if I didnt include this somehow)
- With sharp, crackling tones, Kyrra tells you, "The ladies must love you immensely."
- (Eleusian Ranger Techs): Savira says, "Most of the hard stuff seem to have this built in code like: If adventurer_hitting_me = "Sarathai" then send("terminate and selfdestruct")."
- Makarios says, "Serve well and perish."
- Xaden says, "Xaden confirmed scrub 2017."
Hashan has... 3-4 people who can.
Targossas has like 15+ people who can.
Mhaldor has 4-5 people (?)
Eleusis has 9-10 people, if not more.
It's mostly an issue with cities that have dual divine that cause people to want to join an order.
Ashtan also has the Aegis order members and so on, though. It's not just city patrons.
- With sharp, crackling tones, Kyrra tells you, "The ladies must love you immensely."
- (Eleusian Ranger Techs): Savira says, "Most of the hard stuff seem to have this built in code like: If adventurer_hitting_me = "Sarathai" then send("terminate and selfdestruct")."
- Makarios says, "Serve well and perish."
- Xaden says, "Xaden confirmed scrub 2017."
Aegis' order also applies to Hashan, Eleusis, and Ashtan, at that point then. Increasing their numbers.
It would make it more balanced to add 1 equal way for any to get up there.
(On second thought, I get some people don't want more fighting but if you're going on a Crusade odds are you enjoy fighting and adding more of risk makes the reward all the better)
And you won't understand the cause of your grief...
...But you'll always follow the voices beneath.
She is a <color> Dragon, obscured in a shifting nebula of blackness. Squirming
Honestly, I've very little clue what I'm doing, but Depthswalker makes it fun because it has so much group utility, I can find ways to be useful without always being in the melee. Though just straight Chrono Dooming people isn't working- I thought my teammates would be more hindery and I could snatch some free wins.