Achaean Raves

Archaeon

ok I was going to respond with a bunch of shit but I'm too lazy to really tell you why war in achaea and war in real life are like totally different so I'll just put out a suggestion that I was thinking of that will help equalize shit based on time zone.


If you make capture points in a city, and at the end of the war (which ideally would be declared once one side starts losing by a landslide) whichever city held the other city's capture points longer would win.  This would allow both sides to hold during their peak hours, effectively nullifying the advantage of being in different time zones.  The times that would matter are the times when there are many people on for both cities, and then it would make an interesting mechanic of attack/counterattack.  You would have to go on an offensive while simultaneously making sure you're defensively sound during the times when both cities are on in force.  

Athelas

Athelas said:

... to closely related to RL. ...

Archaeon said:

... tell you why war in achaea and war in real life are like totally different ...

Too closely related does not mean: They are the same.

Right now, the concepts are too closely related, exactly because both depend on making the opponent unwilling or unable to continue the fight.

As for the capture points idea ... Yea, that could work, I'd say it's worth a shot

Cailin

Starmourn is testing the capture points idea. I haven't been playing for a while, so I'm not sure how well it's working. 

Torinn

For rewards it could be something as trivial as "war stats" that save on the city's record.  Recording patron shrines destroyed, enemy patron shrines destroyed, attacker and defender kill count, tanks blown and diffused, etc.  To make timezones irrelevant the best I've seen a game come up with (and it's still not perfect) is having scheduled "vulnerability" time windows for strategic objectives that rotate to different timezones.  For example the first will be at noon one day  and last for two hours before the objective is no longer capturable,  then the next time it'll be 3pm for the same time frame, then 6pm, etc.  Another way I've seen it done is the defender simply chooses a time where they're vulnerable (likely when they're strongest or both are weakest).  

Caelan

I thought we were supposed to be able to raid the goddamn warehouses during war?

Capture points, sanction points, tank points by tank level multiplier, soldier kill points.  First one to 100 wins and then can pilfer the city coffers and warehouses.  Done.system fixed

Ysela

Sometimes it is very easy being Tyrannus. With @Jurixe and @Stheno (and @Sartan , what with the public induction into the Black Hand) yesterday, and @Ameer ,@Lirah , and @Iloisee today (and @Melodie being volunteered to play Shaitan on short notice), doing their thing so very well, and Stheno with the general planning of it all, this Fair has been smooth indeed. Even when things are quiet, there is usually a Mhaldorian stepping forward and saving the day.

As for the fair, it is good to have a natural meeting place. Intercity interactions that are not immediately violent can be very interesting, but are hard to organise without things such as this.

Asmodron

Loving the war discussion and would enjoy putting up suggestions buuuut this is raves. Making a thread for it to move it there.

Sobriquet

Caelan said:

I thought we were supposed to be able to raid the goddamn warehouses during war?

Capture points, sanction points, tank points by tank level multiplier, soldier kill points.  First one to 100 wins and then can pilfer the city coffers and warehouses.  Done.system fixed

Doesn't help when you have non soldiers raiding and Ashtan's children coming in wanting to be noticed. 

Nothing to stop cities dropping down to 1 or 2 soldiers and just not engaging still. 

Caelan

Sobriquet said:

Caelan said:

I thought we were supposed to be able to raid the goddamn warehouses during war?

Capture points, sanction points, tank points by tank level multiplier, soldier kill points.  First one to 100 wins and then can pilfer the city coffers and warehouses.  Done.system fixed

Doesn't help when you have non soldiers raiding and Ashtan's children coming in wanting to be noticed. 

Nothing to stop cities dropping down to 1 or 2 soldiers and just not engaging still. 

Tanks blow at level 1 over time.  The more you don't engage, the more tank points you get (hostile make sanction 1 kill).??

Skye

Thanks for putting up the Sojourn board for the fair

After many many many rounds... I finally managed to win a game:

Your Sojourn party has 2 members alive.
You have 5 horses.
You have 275 gold sovereigns.
You have 50 units of cargo remaining.
You have about 5 days of provisions remaining.

According to your Sojourn map, you are on the road to Seleucar.

Your party makes camp for the night.
You and your companions sit down for a meal, eagerly digging into the provisions.
Come the next morning, your party departs, making their way towards their final destination.
Having reached your destination, you unload your cargo and are paid 2500 for your cargo, as well as a small bonus for delivering the entire shipment intact.
You completed your journey with 3025 gold.
Your final score was 3025.
You step away from the Sojourn table, your journey complete.

Torrent

Skye said:

Thanks for putting up the Sojourn board for the fair

After many many many rounds... I finally managed to win a game:

Your Sojourn party has 2 members alive.
You have 5 horses.
You have 275 gold sovereigns.
You have 50 units of cargo remaining.
You have about 5 days of provisions remaining.

According to your Sojourn map, you are on the road to Seleucar.

Your party makes camp for the night.
You and your companions sit down for a meal, eagerly digging into the provisions.
Come the next morning, your party departs, making their way towards their final destination.
Having reached your destination, you unload your cargo and are paid 2500 for your cargo, as well as a small bonus for delivering the entire shipment intact.
You completed your journey with 3025 gold.
Your final score was 3025.
You step away from the Sojourn table, your journey complete.

 So its Oregon Trail? Do I get to choose to be the doctor?

Asmodron

What I love about Sojourn is that it supplied a new slice of an achaean expierence. One that didnt require scripts, cures, or keeping an eye out for serpents snapping like crazy. I'd spend hours on it only because I could do my work then look back at the screen to put in the next step. I'd love more concepts like that

Synbios

Finally!

You are the last surviving member of your Sojourn party.

You have 4 horses.

You have 50 gold sovereigns.

You have 50 units of cargo remaining.

You have about 5 days of provisions remaining.

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You readily agree to allow the tsol'aa to join you on your travels, adding a new companion and some

provisions to your roster.

Your party makes camp for the night.

You and your companions sit down for a meal, eagerly digging into the provisions.

Come the next morning, your party departs, making their way towards their final destination.

Having reached your destination, you unload your cargo and are paid 2500 for your cargo, as well as

a small bonus for delivering the entire shipment intact.

You completed your journey with 2800 gold.

Your final score was 2800.

You step away from the Sojourn table, your journey complete.

Lanre

The worlds fair and the performances put forth by everyone has been an amazing event. I'm continually amazed by the storytelling ability, lore, and sheer fun of it all from everywhere and everyone who has contributed, divine and player, alike. Thanks to everyone who has contributed. 

Cailin

Lanre said:

The worlds fair and the performances put forth by everyone has been an amazing event. I'm continually amazed by the storytelling ability, lore, and sheer fun of it all from everywhere and everyone who has contributed, divine and player, alike. Thanks to everyone who has contributed. 

Agreed! I've raved about it already, but I feel like posting another rave every time I attend another showcase and interact with players and denizens there

Ryx

Really enjoyed the Mafia-like game @Asani put on! Had fun conspiring with @Shirszae behind the scenes.

Stheno

A big thank you to @Ictinus and the entire Garden for working down to the wire to bring us this much entertainment. Glad Nissa didn't blacklist me for cracking my whip! It's all been so much fun, and we're only a few days into the festivities.

The Sidhe are my favourite by far.

Asani

I'm glad people enjoyed it, even with the issues that popped up! Was definitely fun to see people get into it, along with the flocks of shrieking spectres

Ictinus

Somewhat echoing Stheno, my rave is for the whole Garden team, and to everyone who's been involved on the player side for putting in an incredible amount of work to make this happen - it's been quite astonishing to see it all come together!

Asani

Asani said:

I'm glad people enjoyed it, even with the issues that popped up! Was definitely fun to see people get into it, along with the flocks of shrieking spectres

Just to toss a bit more here about it, on my end I had things highlighted by sect, which lead to some pretty funny moments to watch while running it. For context, the Somnustrans were the mafia/werewolves/darkwalkers/insert bad guys here, while the Noxtrans and Lunastrans were on the same side, but could only investigate their own cults. Also, anyone dead was considered a spectre, with the only rule being that they had to communicate via shrieks or groans.

Farrah

I bullied @Tesha into participating in a debate. Then @Asani and @Emalyna agreed to, as well. No one knows what happened after that. But it was amazing, and much better than no debate.

You guys are champs.

Mroxyl

@Farrah how much cactus weed did you toss her? That was awesomely funny stuff.

Torrent

Mroxyl said:

@Farrah how much cactus weed did you toss her? That was awesomely funny stuff.

It was the Kvkir, its like crack

Farrah

That you all think Tesha needs help to be like this shows how little you know...

Jiraishin

Farrah said:

That you all think Tesha needs help to be like this shows how little you know...

Relevant:

Rien'maal tells you, "Levels of instability detected in designation Tesha that 

have not been measured before in known history. We recommend immediate 

termination."

Doriel

YOU GUYS

Mathonwy

I kind of wish my business dinner meeting thing had been cancelled, 'cause I want to know what a Mathonwy/Tesha debate team would have looked like.

Tesha

Lorielan vs Twilight was an awesome debate. I really liked how much was revealed that wasn't publicly available before, and Nissa was adorable the whole time. Thanks for doing that!

Farrah

Rave for the ENTIRE fair. It was brilliant. I am honestly astonished it was put together in such a small time, after all the Tsol'teth events and everything, both the players' efforts and the divine.

you all.

Vastar

Tesha said:

Lorielan vs Twilight was an awesome debate. I really liked how much was revealed that wasn't publicly available before, and Nissa was adorable the whole time. Thanks for doing that!

No rave for Han-Tolneth? For his use of Aldar customs to not only sidestep two annoyed Elder Gods, but also (thanks to Nissa's choice to abstain) holding his vote and therefore his judgement over them for as long as he pleases?

You disappoint Me, Tesha.