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One of the symptoms of an approaching nervous breakdown is the belief that one's work is terribly important
There are many examples of characters not even knowing their own religion, let alone that of another city. Not everyone likes studying a ton of in-game religion to the extent that they can knowledgeably discuss it, which is fine. People play the game differently. Some people just aren't interested. While understandable, this means that when they try to make statements about another faction's ideology, they're sometimes wrong. I don't see why you would blame Targossas for that.
@Daeir As an ex-follower of Miramar and a Prime Isarian at that I am well versed in her teachings. So let me introduce you to the kettle especially as my comment was on Justice and not Good.
@Tesha I did not claim to understand this new found good. merely that Deucalion is not truly a divine of Justice. Even good can commit unjust acts and seems to have justifications for them.
None of this convoluted "Good" business. Just lots of chocolate. And lots of dolphins.
I will need to find an IC reason to meet @Tesha as I've been trying to debate random Targossians to learn of this new Good. Those like @Khalaz were childish and immediately resorted to insults instead of countering anything said with civil discussion. I figured hey he swapped from Evil to new good whereas I went from Justice to Evil... could be an engaging conversation.
Also how can @silas be trolling unless he is @Daeir? who is the only one arguing Justice and righteousness with me?
Pretty sure they are not the same person though.
as for what happened to me today:
Giving up on writing on my past as all my logs were destroyed with my old pc. No ex-follower of Miramar who is active has logs.. And as I am a stickler for accuracy it will drive me nuts if I fill in gaps with made up details...
Starting to make headway on a ritual for my house tasks. I have Ideas that I did not have time to put into another letter for @Taraza before I had to log out though. Getting ready for work in 2 hours. Discovered I am not as terri-bad at combat as I thought and that I have in fact made actual progress. It just has not felt like I was.
Attempted to interact with @Jeslyn before I read her post here... felt bad after.. she said it was ok though that she enjoyed the attempt.
Got yelled at by @Eril for trying to convert his daughter in law. I found this entertaining and engaging. I hope to have more interactions with both of them.
Got chastised for being distracted by things not related to my tasks like @Jeslyn.
Got to watch a Druid set herself on fire when trying to flee. That was funny. Confusing as I knew nothing on druid combat so was unaware that could happen (they explained to me how it did). Now that is all I know about it.
Learned that Sylvans can infuse cures into their Viridian forms. Still not sure what this does but found it neat.
Still trying to figure out how I'm not forest enemied with my recent extermination... I thought they were notified of who did them and when?
Edit: spelling
@Aepas Yup Judge Dredd in that he is willing to do whatever it takes to defeat yhose that oppose his morals instead of caring about if his actions are just. Just judge with whats in front at the time, sentence and execute. All hee needs to do now is say "I am the Law!"
Not saying I dislike Deucalion OOCly. Just pointing out the flaws of calling him a Divine of Justice. This is like trying to explain the differences between Justice snd Vengeance all over again.
Deucalion is righteousness. Righteousness will not weigh crim vs punishment. It simply punishes based on Morals irregardless of the fact the punishment might not fit the crime. DEUCALION
Vengeace is similar to righteousness however instead of bringing morals into the mix it is simply ones own reasons, usually pride or selfish reasons. Keresis
Justice creates punishments of equivalent weight to the crime after assessing all facts. Good and Evil does not and Should not come into it. If good is unjust it is still punished. MIRAMAR
Do not argue semantics with me please. The righteous (even divine) often mistake themselves for Justice. So it is in all honesty Deucalion who is not ready for justice and honestly that post demonstrates the players lack of knowledge on the differences between these three things.
Miramar = Justice
Deucalion = Righteousness
Keresis = Vengeance
Interactions with those higher ranking Targossians who an older player might recognize as respectable and knowledgable are so rarely fueled by a desire to delve into philosophical banter and far too often driven by bitterness, shallowness, and a diversion of meaningful conversation.
At one point, I distinctly remember having a wonderful conversation with Tesha about Kuy's new life. It was awesome. However, since that conversation, every attempt to reach out to RP with folks is met with such cold-hearted spite (often grounded in strictly OOC perceptions - such as fighting over shrines and PK justifications) that it's almost tiring. It certainly is often frustrating.
This is compounded by the fact that many of Targ's higher ups have an IC persona that is both zealous and rude. This, of course, is not problematic. It's a perfectly fine role to play.
However, the only people not in Targ who are given the options to talk about Targ are the ones Targossians feel will be easily lured into the city's RP: youngsters, newbies, and people who are not strong RPers. There is only one reason for people not understanding Targ's "Good" anymore, and that's because so many people on both sides of the coin have given up on trying to talk about it ICly.
In fact, I have sent letters to people trying to reach out - including people who were staples in Kuy's life during his time there. Almost all have been met in silence. This doesn't surprise me when they are signed vaguely and posted from Cyrene, Hashan, or Eleusis. It does hurt a little, though, to think those people who had a lasting impact on who Kuy has become either aren't able to put two and two together or can't be bothered. There's also a chance that all those letters happened to get lost before being read. I don't deny that.
I also, however, have an instance of someone refusing to RP due to OOC happenings. I don't agree with that, but I won't attempt to disuade someone's nature.
All this said, I really don't see a reason for the "NA-NA neiner-neiner you don't know what good is shut up already" stuff. If you want people to understand, stop shutting them all down.
Now, I will wholly admit that I know nothing of the Cyrene-Targossas divide or what kept the Diaspora going in spite of a lot of IC disapproval. It's possible this is a completely slanted and biased perspective. I feel that it's important to hear all sides, however, so there it is.
Side note take it to rants didn't mean to derail the raves with Targ people wanting to argue.
(Blades of Valour): Draekar says: "Synbios if sunbeams sparkle off that I'll kill you where you stand."
(Party) Halos says, "Disbar?"
(Party) Draekar says, "You know here we have disbar."
(Party) Draekar says, "And over there we have datbar."