The Revelation

Jinsun

And if you come and get me for that, cool.

Eidra

It never occurred to me to worry about pk and non-pk. I figure some people are rping people who fight, and like to fight, and are violent... and sometimes people who don't like to fight, and don't fight, and are bad at it get killed by them.

Kresslack

Jonathin said:

I had a lamb chop puppet when I was suuuuuper young. Apparently I carried it around everywhere singing the songs or some shit.

I had an Alf one. I took that thing -everywhere-.

Bann

Kresslack said:

Jonathin said:

I had a lamb chop puppet when I was suuuuuper young. Apparently I carried it around everywhere singing the songs or some shit.

I had an Alf one. I took that thing -everywhere-.

My brother had an Alf doll when he was a kid. He hated it, it terrified him and gave him nightmares.


When he really pissed me off I'd set it on his dresser so it'd look at him all night long.

Datrius

Since she is technically a player character....I wanna try this.
@Gattan'bahar We summon thee to the forums!

Trey

Haaaaaaa, fuckin' fail.

Datrius

Trey said:

Haaaaaaa, fuckin' fail.

Yeah, totally noticed that afterwards,

Torinn

@Jinsun yes, deliverance has gotten me killed several times but I get that

Cynlael

@Gattan'bahar r it wurk??

eta: No user found. Admin pls.

Asmodron

The Tsol'teth do not sully their minds and waste their time upon such public forums, that we peasants utilize to express our simplistic unevolved thoughts.

Szanthax

I just can't see the purpose? Like an admin taking the time to post as a char on the forums... Like so they can go " lol my telepathy schooled you"? Or... ... Yeah.

Cynlael

Szanthax said:

I just can't see the purpose? Like an admin taking the time to post as a char on the forums... Like so they can go " lol my telepathy schooled you"? Or... ... Yeah.

Was a joke, mate. No one is seriously (I think...) expecting them to post on forums.

Datrius

Yeah, was a joke. Though would have been hilarious had they actually done it.

Szanthax

Phew...

My subtlety factor is like between 1 and 1.5 out of 10...

Sirrion

Bann said:

Kresslack said:

Jonathin said:

I had a lamb chop puppet when I was suuuuuper young. Apparently I carried it around everywhere singing the songs or some shit.

I had an Alf one. I took that thing -everywhere-.

My brother had an Alf doll when he was a kid. He hated it, it terrified him and gave him nightmares.


When he really pissed me off I'd set it on his dresser so it'd look at him all night long.

I was a huge fan of Alf. Unfortunately E.T. scared the shit out of me.

Nazihk

Jinsun said:

I've always considered the 9 v 1 steamroll to be something that's rather talentless and really ought to be discouraged unless both sides have enough, but I also understand that during an event like this, the goal means more. 

The counterpoint to this is "What else are they supposed to do?" Charge in one by one like a pack of B-movie ninjas? Send only their best to 1v1 you while the rest sit it out?

Jinsun

Nazihk said:

Jinsun said:

I've always considered the 9 v 1 steamroll to be something that's rather talentless and really ought to be discouraged unless both sides have enough, but I also understand that during an event like this, the goal means more. 

The counterpoint to this is "What else are they supposed to do?" Charge in one by one like a pack of B-movie ninjas? Send only their best to 1v1 you while the rest sit it out?

Maybe just send the ones who won't cry when they're hunted down later.

Deladan

I've spent more time journaled during this event than I have previous events. I can't seem to really get into it. And not for lack of trying on my part. I've pk'd I've dropped meld shrine, backstabbed a tsol'teth a few times etc. 

Jonathin

Am I the only one that kind of feels like there hasn't really been any danger thus far?
Yeah, the shrines were destroyed and meld shrines have popped up, but it doesn't feel like there is any real danger or urgency to it.

That's not an insult toward the event itself, I think it's been great thus far.

Kresslack

Jonathin said:

Am I the only one that kind of feels like there hasn't really been any danger thus far?
Yeah, the shrines were destroyed and meld shrines have popped up, but it doesn't feel like there is any real danger or urgency to it.

That's not an insult toward the event itself, I think it's been great thus far.

I think it's because it's a world event which hasn't been that much focused on any particular city. I know in the past with Ashtan and Mhaldor things have happened where the conflict came close to and even breached the cities themselves. Maybe the world is just feeling too 'safe' without this impending plaque affecting the cities either.

Asmodron

Jonathin said:

Am I the only one that kind of feels like there hasn't really been any danger thus far?
Yeah, the shrines were destroyed and meld shrines have popped up, but it doesn't feel like there is any real danger or urgency to it.

That's not an insult toward the event itself, I think it's been great thus far.

You arent the only one, nor are your feelings misplaced. There has yet to be any existence-threatening fiasco of yet. God shrines got blasted away? Meh. Fog creeping around that will only spawn creatures if you step in it, but can be beaten back? Meh. Random tsol'teth walking around? Meh. Random tower appeared in Pash? Meh


It definitely is not of the danger level of Bal'met, where we were all worried about our favorite Gods with some dropping like flies, additionally about our cities, what with Ormyrr stationed outside gates.


It is why I have been hoping and waiting for the Tsol'teth to really get into this invasion business. So far, I am just not feeling it.

Tahquil

There was the frantic panic when all of these things first started. However the length if time for each 'stage' and that they have all been 'opt in' and (appearing to me at least) half the characters about pretending nothing is going on and continuing their rompfest and teaparties has definitely drained from the monumental importance feeling i think the admin were going for.

Asmodron

Daeir said:

Existence threatening fiasco? Do you not remember the opener to this event, where the Tsol'teth literally seized simultaneous command of every mortal mind in Sapience, then completely destroyed every shrine and master shrine in existence across all planar bounds with a figurative wave of their hand?

Do you not remember the fact that the Orphean Serenade is now twisted and corrupted because of this? That fragments of Divine essence are literally raining from the sky in a last-ditch effort to provide us with some means of combating a foe that is not only grossly outnumbered by us, but also quasi-immortal?

All this stuff is just the very beginning, I think. I don't know how arching this storyline is going to be, but it is very much very, VERY dangerous, even if the mechanical aspects of it all are comparatively nonthreatening.

People were saying the sargassum plague wasn't very threatening or a big deal either until it brought about the complete invasion of several major ports and harbours with legions of briny undead. And this was almost 2 years in-game after the plague was first sighted.

You all have no faith, or a distinct inability to follow narrative. Probably a mixture of the two. The event's still unfolding.

Yes I remember the opener of the event, which was the Tsol'teth grabbing control of us -for a time- and causing temporary paralysis...which at first seemed dangerous, but then quieted down. That doesnt exactly scream world-ending.

Yes I remember the blasting of the God shrines...but exactly why should I care about this? Putting aside the idea that God shrines were able to give immunity to Tsol'teth control, it isnt that much of a threatening occurance. Frankly, if anything this mostly seemed like a doomsday occurrence for those heavily faithful players that immerse their entire game experience based on the existence of a God. They seemed to have taken it more as a slight against their God and the "terrible" idea that their God's influence may be cut off. From a logical point of view, I see it as: The Tsol'teth blew up just the shrines? well phew...was afraid they would actually hit our cities or something.

You are calling the "fragments of Divine essence as a last-ditch effort to provide us with a means to combat them". Where did you get this? So far there has not been any sign that us collecting the fragments = victory. We at first assumed we needed the return of the shrines to remove the fog and meld shrines, but that wasnt the case. So please explain to me exactly how the splintered essence is our salvation? If you are referring to the return of shrines based on the possibility that Tsol'teth mind control doesnt work in shrine presence, then that isnt exactly salvation, that is just a band-aid.


And yes, we can agree, this is just the beginning, but this -beginning- has been stretched out pretty far. It is why I said, as well as others are thinking, that we are waiting for the Tsol'teth to do their next major move.


It simply does not give off a sense of danger as of yet.


It is very easy for people to simply ignore it all and go on with their lives.

Cailan

Sounds like you're just downplaying everything that's happening. Completely losing control of your body? No big deal, easy to ignore. Weird vapor creeping slowly across the entire continent? I'm ignoring it so it obviously doesn't matter. Fucked up Serenade? LALALA CAN'T HEAR YOU.

I can agree that the OOC timeline of this event is stretched kinda long and people are ready to just move on to the next part, but I don't think you can hold the opinion that the Tsol'teth threat is not "dangerous".

Trey

Asmodron said:

Daeir said:

Existence threatening fiasco? Do you not remember the opener to this event, where the Tsol'teth literally seized simultaneous command of every mortal mind in Sapience, then completely destroyed every shrine and master shrine in existence across all planar bounds with a figurative wave of their hand?

Do you not remember the fact that the Orphean Serenade is now twisted and corrupted because of this? That fragments of Divine essence are literally raining from the sky in a last-ditch effort to provide us with some means of combating a foe that is not only grossly outnumbered by us, but also quasi-immortal?

All this stuff is just the very beginning, I think. I don't know how arching this storyline is going to be, but it is very much very, VERY dangerous, even if the mechanical aspects of it all are comparatively nonthreatening.

People were saying the sargassum plague wasn't very threatening or a big deal either until it brought about the complete invasion of several major ports and harbours with legions of briny undead. And this was almost 2 years in-game after the plague was first sighted.

You all have no faith, or a distinct inability to follow narrative. Probably a mixture of the two. The event's still unfolding.

Yes I remember the opener of the event, which was the Tsol'teth grabbing control of us -for a time- and causing temporary paralysis...which at first seemed dangerous, but then quieted down. That doesnt exactly scream world-ending.

Yes I remember the blasting of the God shrines...but exactly why should I care about this? Putting aside the idea that God shrines were able to give immunity to Tsol'teth control, it isnt that much of a threatening occurance. Frankly, if anything this mostly seemed like a doomsday occurrence for those heavily faithful players that immerse their entire game experience based on the existence of a God. They seemed to have taken it more as a slight against their God and the "terrible" idea that their God's influence may be cut off. From a logical point of view, I see it as: The Tsol'teth blew up just the shrines? well phew...was afraid they would actually hit our cities or something.

You are calling the "fragments of Divine essence as a last-ditch effort to provide us with a means to combat them". Where did you get this? So far there has not been any sign that us collecting the fragments = victory. We at first assumed we needed the return of the shrines to remove the fog and meld shrines, but that wasnt the case. So please explain to me exactly how the splintered essence is our salvation? If you are referring to the return of shrines based on the possibility that Tsol'teth mind control doesnt work in shrine presence, then that isnt exactly salvation, that is just a band-aid.


And yes, we can agree, this is just the beginning, but this -beginning- has been stretched out pretty far. It is why I said, as well as others are thinking, that we are waiting for the Tsol'teth to do their next major move.


It simply does not give off a sense of danger as of yet.


It is very easy for people to simply ignore it all and go on with their lives.

     

Skye

I'd say that the danger is very real but the pacing is what's causing people to lose interest. The plague's success stemmed from the fact that there was a very definite time period of 'you got one week to finish bashing these things for points to win rewards'. Also the ticking timebomb of crew dropping dead etc was pretty palpable with immediately visible long lasting effects. 

Of course it can't be helped because the admin need to scramble to get things ready for the next part and they're always p much shorthanded on the volunteer side so they need more time. It would be nice if we had more world emotes or things like denizens trying to fight back, or getting rekt though. There's a noticeable sense of disconnect right now where the players are doing all kinds of work and the denizens are just continuing to be 'welcome to Corneria' as though they aren't getting choked and slaughtered by shadow creatures. 

edit: Also I think some players are extremely worried they won't get to celebrate MayaHalloween this year. They probably won't. This makes them more sad than the prospect of spending their lives as a petri dish sample. 

Jonathin

Don't get me wrong, @Daeir, I wholly appreciate the effort that the admin have put into the event. I also appreciate the fact that some people are absolutely going ham for whatever parts that they enjoy. And I do understand that there is more of October left, meaning that there is more story yet to unfold.

However, there are 6 days left in October and aside from some initial PK fun and bashing for gold in vapour rooms, there hasn't really been anything that has made my character feel any sense of hopelessness or desolation nor has it translated through the game into me, the player. I feel mostly detached from the event because of the slow pace. It may even be that my expectations were entirely too high because of the Fall of the Seleucarian Empire and the story of the Black Wave therein. I'm not entirely sure what the issue is, but telling me that the Serenade is twisted and some other stuff that has been going on for the whole month doesn't help.

The narrative is interesting enough and I'm excited for a new class, but beyond that, I don't really feel anything from this event. I think that if they want to do something like this again, there needs to be a bit more ahh... detail, perhaps. As was mentioned, deathsights, random fighting, etc. Logging in to see a lognote "vapour was covering the Tsol'aa village. No Tsol'aa alive." or "Mhun found dead in Moghedu" is a boring way to go about an event.

Asmodron

Precisely, the idea the event incorporates is indeed dangerous, but everything so far has yet to give off that sense of danger or urgency. It is very mild.


People even complain about the Orphean Serenade being disrupted...when they dont even know -what- it is, nor what it is for. It is purely cries of "The serenade is RUINED!!" out of randmness, with no actual thought put into it. What kind of reasoning is that..


Some of you are clearly getting over-stressed with this event and snapping at people, and even more-so for a simple point brought up that 'The event doesnt seem that dangerous". Seriously you should consider taking a break from how much you let game events rile you up.

Klendathu

Some of us rarely see the Serenade, being as it's at 1am UK time at the moment (British Summer-summer-time)

Nazihk

I feel like a lot of the problem is that it seems to depend on the Black Wave being a massive threat out of the lore, and it loses a lot of its impact if you either don't know the lore or don't care about it.