What you all got promised cool factional things.... Eleusis was only going to get a knighting ceremony done by kemnast...
Would fucking love this!!
Specifically:
- Gerzson and Kemnast pledge to ensure that unlife does not spread further throughout the planes (and will actively attempt to prevent any others from doing so, although "cracks might always exist" etc.). <-- This was the big one we wanted. - Gerzson and Kemnast will not attempt to use the Soulbleed Nexus. At all. <-- This was the second big one we wanted. - Eleusian warriors who seek knighthood may choose to be knighted by Kemnast, in his role as lord of a knightly order, in a full knighthood ceremony with associated honours.
- (Eleusis): Ellodin says, "The Fissure of Echoes is Sarathai's happy place." - With sharp, crackling tones, Kyrra tells you, "The ladies must love you immensely." - (Eleusian Ranger Techs): Savira says, "Most of the hard stuff seem to have this built in code like: If adventurer_hitting_me = "Sarathai" then send("terminate and selfdestruct")." - Makarios says, "Serve well and perish." - Xaden says, "Xaden confirmed scrub 2017."
@Alrena you can post the logs of our meeting and subsequent negotiations if you like. Not going to defend all this bullshit, the RP was there not something that was thrown together after the fact.
@Shara news to me, love. Sorry you were rubbed the wrong way, I thought you did fantastic and that is why I promoted you. You asked me to negotiate with Alrena and I came through and then you stopped responding to tells when I needed on the fly answers. I know you had 6 people sending you tells so it was a high stress situation and I know you don't know everything that was taking place, but damn you could have told me you felt my tells were rude.
Lies an deception toward your enemy in a war, woe is me how utterly shitty and poor RP that is. How in the hell is that metagaming, did you want everyone sharing all of the strategies all out in the open?
Too bad about that different portal technology RP. If it weren't for that stellar roleplay that you definitely though was cool and fun to be a part of the time, your other stellar roleplay would have pulled you through.
Bruh just stop. @Shara worked her ass off and to my knowledge has went out of her way to never call you out on this kinda thing. If it were me calling you out, it'd be different if I called you out. I'm dramatic and I fight you like it's going out of style, but you're wrong here and someone who poured their heart into this after being reluctantly pushed forward to be in charge is calling you out. Don't try and gloss this over and steal her thunder.
Oh hold on, I have a log... well, a log sentence. Because I went to bed angry and forgot to log the rest of it when it happened.
Grandue tells you, " We will begin enemying all those who are directly working against the Seat of Chaos."
Perfectly legal, totally low.
No
other city was contacting random rogues and Cyrenians to threaten enemy
status for playing in the event no matter how badly they wanted their
reward. And because I had a lease in the city, I was forced to bow out
of the event entirely and not participate or otherwise forfeit some 144k gold in prepaid rent.
So yeah congrats for wanting to win so badly you decided that a bunch of non-comms were totally worth threatening over participation.
Not true. Targ was enemying people for participating too. I agree it's shitty, but it's why I never got into shopkeeping. You literally can't participate in conflict if you want to thrive
I'm gonna distance myself from the bulk of this because the extent of my involvement was "go here and kill people? Okay!", but @Shara was on point all weekend. Organized, told me where we're going and why, didn't whine about dying ever. Much respect
We enemied for worldburn when it was 35 v 8 for the most part, or enemy to city when Eleusis was hitting defendable/shrines. I think I enemied some people to city after someone told me I wasn't allowed to enemy them because they were fighting in the Underworld and things can't leave the Underworld. It's mostly all taken care of now, though.
Not true. Targ was enemying people for participating too. I agree it's shitty, but it's why I never got into shopkeeping. You literally can't participate in conflict if you want to thrive
Yeah Targ was enemying for the war (which is dumb, imo) but they just started unenemying everyone that was enemied due to the event. I don't think, in Skye's example, it would have created an issue as it was always intended to be temporary. I imagine for totems and the like but I'm not entirely sure. Certainly didn't threaten people to pull out though, which I consider to be the main issue.
Oh hold on, I have a log... well, a log sentence. Because I went to bed angry and forgot to log the rest of it when it happened.
Grandue tells you, " We will begin enemying all those who are directly working against the Seat of Chaos."
Perfectly legal, totally low.
No
other city was contacting random rogues and Cyrenians to threaten enemy
status for playing in the event no matter how badly they wanted their
reward. And because I had a lease in the city, I was forced to bow out
of the event entirely and not participate or otherwise forfeit some 144k gold in prepaid rent.
So yeah congrats for wanting to win so badly you decided that a bunch of non-comms were totally worth threatening over participation.
What you all got promised cool factional things.... Eleusis was only going to get a knighting ceremony done by kemnast...
Would fucking love this!!
Until you realize that Eleusis' knighting org is p much dead af.
I have noone to knight me
In all honesty, after playing for 10 years as a player it's better to have no one to knight you than to be stuck waiting to be knighted in a dead org. I've had it happen 3 times now... the only place to ever actually get around to knighting me was Hashan.
The reason you didn't get knighted in the Maldaathi wasn't that they were dead, bruh.
No because I decided not to risk my rent on it, I wound up sitting the rest of the event out and only set foot in UW a couple of times to look in on the area and check the battlefields.
The fact that you used blackmail to force players to pull out of the event was blatantly disgusting.
Yeah, my broke ass, non-comm self got enemied to Targ and Aurora and so did my non-comm room securing pets. We got no tells or messages or warning that it was coming.
Both mine got overturned today, thanks by the way. I thought it was pretty shitty, but I didn't scream about it since I just had too much on my plate to give a single fuck. I heard other faction cities had been doing it so I was waiting for it to happen. Thus, my thanks Tesha and Ada for that. Shara does shop there... ya'll got cheap potash sometimes. Bless.
And on that note. I see no one actually got enemied to Ashtan, that I see in the last 4 logs. So... unless I'm wrong. At least we didn't actually go down that road.
Edit: If I'd of seen it Skye, like I did with Gilt's enemy status. I would have brought it up to other city people for you. Shara wouldn't have thought we needed that, and knowing you rent from us, it would have caught my eye. If you ever have issues with one member of leadership, we have lots more you can talk to about it, honestly. We aren't a pyramid scheme.
Okay, cause obviously there's a lot of confusion as to my role in this, which is perfectly understandable because I played the part of backstabbing schemer through most of the third phase. If I pissed anyone off with that, sorry, didn't intend to, but it was necessary to keep the smallest faction somewhat relevant throughout, and it fits the RP of an Insidium Mhaldorian trying to pull the strings. To hopefully clear things up, I'll go through Belladona's faction Warplan(tm) step by step.
The first phase was terribly frustrating, competing with Targ for the same resources, while having only a fraction of their numbers. It meant we ran around for scraps while Targ just posted people on every spawnpoint and/or timed spawnrates. Can't blame them much, but was annoying. One particular Targossian was also a bit triggerhappy in terms of attacking, not gonna pin that on the entire faction though. After Targ was finished, we would have completed our portal fairly quickly though I believe the remaining portals just opened up when Ashtan got their break too.
Second phase we entered a cease-fire with Ashtan, unofficially, so we could at least collect blocks, bash out the denizens (which was a real pain with only 3-4 people, let me tell you that. But amazing gold. So amazing) and build a tent. I don't even know why, Belladona never even used the tent. That bitch.
Third phase, first day: we botched our first assault cause we had to learn the commands. Eleusis then decided to mess with Hashan and let us capture Hashan's territory unopposed. At that point, it was very clear the only way for us to take territory was to either strike when the opposing faction had literally nobody around, or to use another faction to distract them.
Second day, @Grandue contacts me to negotiate for an alliance. I had expected that already considering the cease-fire, and the fact Ashtan was far from dominating the Underworld, compared to Eleusis and Hashan. Having no stake in the fight, no reward or anything, I accepted, since it would give us a chance to at least mean something. That day Ashtan fights Eleusis, and we manage to take two of their territories while they were occupied.
Third day, Hashan contacts me after a brief struggle in the Underworld. Not to form an alliance, but to ensure I wouldn't give my beacons to Ashtan to help them secure a victory. I use the opportunity to force Hashan to support me, by telling them that betraying me would see my remaining beacons (8 at the time) into Ashtan's hands. At the time nobody knew you couldn't use beacons from another faction, including me. I let Ashtan know the same thing, only in reverse. Ashtan and Hashan were vying for victory, Eleusis and Targ weren't even in their mind.
When Targ launched an assault, Hashan moved to stop them for the sole reason of ensuring Targossas cannot gain another point. So when @Farrah asked us if our factions now backed Ashtan's victory, I said yes. That was just bullcrap though, there was never a three-faction alliance, I just wanted to see if you'd believe that and see what you would do. In truth, Hashan and Ashtan were in a strange stalemate, and I was in the middle of it all because they (and I) believed Belladona's faction could grant victory to either of them through the method already described: launching false assaults on their territory.
Who'd I actually side with? Well, honestly, at first I wanted Hashan to win. They deserved it the most, and @Regi only wanted my beacons to ensure Ashtan didn't get them, not intending to use them. Mighty admirable that guy, which is another reason why I think Hashan deserves this win. That said, I did give Ashtan points at the very end, @Grandue made me an offer I couldn't refuse.
So there you have it. I spent most of this event scheming and plotting, forging alliances and breaking them just as fast. Maybe that seems a bit lame to try and mess with the event like that, but I'd like to think it made Belladona's faction, who I think nobody had any hopes for mattering in the slightest, at least somewhat relevant.
Not true. Targ was enemying people for participating too. I agree it's shitty, but it's why I never got into shopkeeping. You literally can't participate in conflict if you want to thrive
Yeah Targ was enemying for the war (which is dumb, imo) but they just started unenemying everyone that was enemied due to the event. I don't think, in Skye's example, it would have created an issue as it was always intended to be temporary. I imagine for totems and the like but I'm not entirely sure. Certainly didn't threaten people to pull out though, which I consider to be the main issue.
Yeah totally agree it's fucked up and I personally didn't participate in or advocate for that was just pointing out that other cities did do it to some extent and that it is inherently a risk of being a multi state shopkeeper in a war. (You wouldn't buy a franchise in Syria)
To be clear, we never believed Hashan was -trying- to make Ashtan win. Only that they were inadvertently doing so. My snide remarks were a combination of frustration and an attempt to point out they were helping their enemies and get that to stop.
There was definitely a three city alliance in defense of Ashtan due to Hashan's confusion as to whether Ashtan was gaining points from it. They thought there was a stalemate, but in reality they were feeding the faction that was most competitive with them points while only keeping points from the faction that was quite a bit behind.
I thought you were being sarcastic when you said you supported Ashtan, given how you said it. I assumed everyone was just being asshats to us to be asshats, though, given the interactions and the lack of benefit. I felt better when I realized the mistake they were operating under.
So, I'm just going to post the events of the war as I understand them here. I'm not overly happy about the way admins were uncoordinated about certain things but it's forgivable. I don't really like how some of the players handled the muddling of OOC stuff like basic mechanics of the system and then used that information to manipulate people, but it ultimately wouldn't have been possible without blatant misinformation by admins.
So on the first day, Hashan won our 3 assaults and successfully defended against Alrena's first attack. She didn't really understand the mechanics yet (we barely did ourselves) and it was easy to secure faster - 4 points total. On the second day, we won all 5 assaults and successfully defended against Deladan, which put us up to 10. Deladan's assault while we were attacking a Mhaldorian base was the first instance of a faction being involved in 2 battles simultaneously, and we won both, but Deladan's assault was buggy - we ended up wavering between 90 and 100% control for about an hour. That double win was probably the highlight of the war for my people.
After that we were at 10 points and well in the lead, we pretty much let things play out, a lot of people saved some of their beacons from this day because we were forcing the issue. Except Eleusis of course, who somehow got unlimited beacons, but then that was sorted out to our satisfaction, and we were told they would only be counted for the first five of the day. Since his opportunistic assault was veritably their VERY FIRST one of the day, I knew we'd keep that defense point.
On the third day, we won our first assault right at the Serenade - this put us to 9 points! A huge collective WTF occurred, and I issued like crazy, and got this response : --- Greetings! Regarding your issue #76875: defending your claimed territory from those who would seek to take it over does not count toward your medallion points. Only territories successfully won via invasions will count. If you have further questions and concerns, you may raise them via ISSUE ME.
I replied to the admin with two messages: --- Haha, that's worthy of an announce then. But thank you.
and
Also doesn't make sense. If that's the case every faction should 4v1 the others to stop assaulters from gaining points.
And my response from that same admin was this: --- Therein likes the beauty of war and strategy!
(I'm sure he meant to say "lies")
So, from that point on, trusting in these words, I changed my core strategy -a lot-. No longer did we worry about towers, because I expected other factions to have this information and pretty much operate with the same ideas as myself. I knew that both Deladan and Alrena had failed assaults - so they were completely out of the scoring picture. I made it a TOP priority to take Targossas and Ashtan out of the picture in the same fashion, and ensure that all of our assaults were victories with no lost beacons. I did that early on the final day, achieving a perfect 13/13 score on beacon assaults, and then from there on went to take Targossas out of the picture in the very heavy handed defense against Ashtan. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY 0% CHANCE I WOULD HAVE DONE THIS with defense points in play. I would not have drawn the grief inducing ire of Targossas and Eleusis. I would not have worked so closely with Alrena or Shara to help defend against others. I would have made a priority of STOPPING BEACON PLANTS ENTIRELY, rather than letting them go through and ensuring defensive victories. I could have made a point of stealing a beacon from Shara, I pulled it off on Tesha when she had a far stronger group active.
By the way, speaking of that, we couldn't use other faction's beacons. Had a Bella one and a Z one that were un-plantable when I tried to use them. Not sure if intended, but there you are.
And finally, I of course would have actually BOTHERED TO PRIORITIZE DEFENDING instead of shrugging off assaults from teams that I was sure had no more stake in the game, like Deladan's. Because we could have earned points. Fuck.
All in all, pretty bad communication, and a little disappointed nobody had any inclination to correct me on mechanics OOCly, but I understand the competitive nature and the things your respective characters had on the line. I just ask everyone to remember that this is a game, and while RP I encourage you all to be as sneaky and underhanded as your characters wish to be, let's try to keep the OOC culture competitive, easy going, and fair, more fun for everyone that way.
PS: To all those I pissed off with seemingly aggravating nonsense strategy, there you are. I don't even ever lie IN CHARACTER, and I promise you I'm not lying or bending a single truth OOCly here, you all have my word for what it's worth. I don't participate in OOC culture or forums much, but I hope you can learn to trust it over time.
In the last several hours of the event, Belladonna's faction mounted several assaults on Ashtan, in which they didn't even try to compete (their general was just standing in the room with Ashtani during the planting/battleground part), and then at the end they worked together against Eleusis' forces to get a final point to Ashtan. This became the source of how Ashtan claimed second.
It could have been stopped, particularly if a few factions worked together to take Ashtan's remaining territory, but that was hard with the bad information about defense points floating around, and I know personally I'd thought better of people then to actually do that sort of thing.
Would probably make more sense if you were filled in on the background RP surrounding that.
This wasn't a last minute plan, it was the plan all along. Belladonna was once a citizen of Ashtan and through her scheming and plotting she dealt a terrible blow to the Occultists and the city and betrayed the city's trust in pursuit of her own immortality. She slaughtered our citizens and the bodies piled up high before she was finally driven away to where she now currently resides. She had the audacity to ask Ashtan to help her in this war thinking we had forgotten her past transgressions. She is an enemy of the Seat of Chaos and I intended to return her sabotage and betrayal. I met with Alrena earlier in the event to discuss Bella's faction and what I intended to do to the vampiress. We knew about the defense points and we spread rumors that they weren't working and I even instructed our General to not even tell our own faction members about this subterfuge because SURPRISE even our own people can't keep secrets. If a demi-god actually told Hashan that you didn't get points for defending then that was either an amazing coincidence or we fooled even them (but I doubt this even happened). I won't go into all the specifics of what loose alliances we formed in order to pull it off, but this wasn't a spur of the moment last ditch no-RP effort, it was planned and calculated and had centuries of RP rolled into the decision. The negotiations with Alrena were also intense and difficult and took a lot of navigating before everything was laid out and agreed upon, it isn't easy getting a faction to agree to betray their undead host so that a city they aren't a part of can get some sweet payback on the slut of the Underworld. It was just as much a strategy to win that phase of the war as it was a strategy to get revenge on Belladonna and prevent Eleusis and Targossas from getting a boon.
What is this RP you speak of...cause 90% of the event was basically ignoring it >>
@Regi I did tell you about the defense points a few times, in character, but you always dismissed them and said they didn't count. I even literally said "Ashtan believes defense points does count" to you. I wasn't entirely sure myself until Aegoth confirmed Ashtan was gaining points. I think in that regard I was being honest, at least. As for the beacons, like I said, I had no idea they wouldn't work for others, I thought that was the whole point of them dropping on death.
I do agree the event would have turned out very differently had the system been a lot more transparent, and the mechanics a bit easier to understand. Bella might not have lost her first assault if so.
@Regi I did tell you about the defense points a few times, in character, but you always dismissed them and said they didn't count. I even literally said "Ashtan believes defense points does count" to you. I wasn't entirely sure myself until Aegoth confirmed Ashtan was gaining points. I think in that regard I was being honest, at least. As for the beacons, like I said, I had no idea they wouldn't work for others, I thought that was the whole point of them dropping on death.
I do agree the event would have turned out very differently had the system been a lot more transparent, and the mechanics a bit easier to understand. Bella might not have lost her first assault if so.
Yeah, that was likely because Shara was... not confirming nor exactly denying to him that defence points were back in. There were discussions and jokes about how Regi and Shara should call a phase of being "temporarily divorced" due to General duties. She's likely going to be sleeping in the doghouse a while... @Regi
@Regi I did tell you about the defense points a few times, in character, but you always dismissed them and said they didn't count. I even literally said "Ashtan believes defense points does count" to you. I wasn't entirely sure myself until Aegoth confirmed Ashtan was gaining points. I think in that regard I was being honest, at least. As for the beacons, like I said, I had no idea they wouldn't work for others, I thought that was the whole point of them dropping on death.
I do agree the event would have turned out very differently had the system been a lot more transparent, and the mechanics a bit easier to understand. Bella might not have lost her first assault if so.
Yeah, that was likely because Shara was... not confirming nor exactly denying to him that defence points were back in. There were discussions and jokes about how Regi and Shara should call a phase of being "temporarily divorced" due to General duties. She's likely going to be sleeping in the doghouse a while... @Regi
Can't believe you turned down offer of cake for this Chaote,@Regi. You cut me deep, real deep.
He is a coward who has to bring two friends as backup to jump people hunting.
Defenses counting makes zero sense to me. I don't mean from a logical perspective, in which case they do, but how they counted and it seemed as if no one officially ever knew about it until it was too late. Seems like a ridiculous mistake to make on anyone's part, as either it counted from the beginning and people were fed incorrect information, or it was changed sometime around the end of the first day and someone decided it wasn't an important distinction to make. Either scenario is a massive fail, and the person in question should feel bad and give all of Achaea a huge creditsale and/or double XP/Gold/Credits/Artefacts/Ships. <.<.
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- Gerzson and Kemnast pledge to ensure that unlife does not spread further throughout the planes (and will actively attempt to prevent any others from doing so, although "cracks might always exist" etc.). <-- This was the big one we wanted.
- Gerzson and Kemnast will not attempt to use the Soulbleed Nexus. At all. <-- This was the second big one we wanted.
- Eleusian warriors who seek knighthood may choose to be knighted by Kemnast, in his role as lord of a knightly order, in a full knighthood ceremony with associated honours.
- With sharp, crackling tones, Kyrra tells you, "The ladies must love you immensely."
- (Eleusian Ranger Techs): Savira says, "Most of the hard stuff seem to have this built in code like: If adventurer_hitting_me = "Sarathai" then send("terminate and selfdestruct")."
- Makarios says, "Serve well and perish."
- Xaden says, "Xaden confirmed scrub 2017."
@Shara news to me, love. Sorry you were rubbed the wrong way, I thought you did fantastic and that is why I promoted you. You asked me to negotiate with Alrena and I came through and then you stopped responding to tells when I needed on the fly answers. I know you had 6 people sending you tells so it was a high stress situation and I know you don't know everything that was taking place, but damn you could have told me you felt my tells were rude.
Lies an deception toward your enemy in a war, woe is me how utterly shitty and poor RP that is. How in the hell is that metagaming, did you want everyone sharing all of the strategies all out in the open?
Grandue tells you, " We will begin enemying all those who are directly working against the Seat of Chaos."
Perfectly legal, totally low.
No other city was contacting random rogues and Cyrenians to threaten enemy status for playing in the event no matter how badly they wanted their reward. And because I had a lease in the city, I was forced to bow out of the event entirely and not participate or otherwise forfeit some 144k gold in prepaid rent.
So yeah congrats for wanting to win so badly you decided that a bunch of non-comms were totally worth threatening over participation.
I wish I could say I was surprised.
i'm a rebel
The fact that you used blackmail to force players to pull out of the event was blatantly disgusting.
Both mine got overturned today, thanks by the way. I thought it was pretty shitty, but I didn't scream about it since I just had too much on my plate to give a single fuck. I heard other faction cities had been doing it so I was waiting for it to happen. Thus, my thanks Tesha and Ada for that. Shara does shop there... ya'll got cheap potash sometimes. Bless.
And on that note. I see no one actually got enemied to Ashtan, that I see in the last 4 logs. So... unless I'm wrong. At least we didn't actually go down that road.
Edit: If I'd of seen it Skye, like I did with Gilt's enemy status. I would have brought it up to other city people for you. Shara wouldn't have thought we needed that, and knowing you rent from us, it would have caught my eye. If you ever have issues with one member of leadership, we have lots more you can talk to about it, honestly. We aren't a pyramid scheme.
The first phase was terribly frustrating, competing with Targ for the same resources, while having only a fraction of their numbers. It meant we ran around for scraps while Targ just posted people on every spawnpoint and/or timed spawnrates. Can't blame them much, but was annoying. One particular Targossian was also a bit triggerhappy in terms of attacking, not gonna pin that on the entire faction though. After Targ was finished, we would have completed our portal fairly quickly though I believe the remaining portals just opened up when Ashtan got their break too.
Second phase we entered a cease-fire with Ashtan, unofficially, so we could at least collect blocks, bash out the denizens (which was a real pain with only 3-4 people, let me tell you that. But amazing gold. So amazing) and build a tent. I don't even know why, Belladona never even used the tent. That bitch.
Third phase, first day: we botched our first assault cause we had to learn the commands. Eleusis then decided to mess with Hashan and let us capture Hashan's territory unopposed. At that point, it was very clear the only way for us to take territory was to either strike when the opposing faction had literally nobody around, or to use another faction to distract them.
Second day, @Grandue contacts me to negotiate for an alliance. I had expected that already considering the cease-fire, and the fact Ashtan was far from dominating the Underworld, compared to Eleusis and Hashan. Having no stake in the fight, no reward or anything, I accepted, since it would give us a chance to at least mean something. That day Ashtan fights Eleusis, and we manage to take two of their territories while they were occupied.
Third day, Hashan contacts me after a brief struggle in the Underworld. Not to form an alliance, but to ensure I wouldn't give my beacons to Ashtan to help them secure a victory. I use the opportunity to force Hashan to support me, by telling them that betraying me would see my remaining beacons (8 at the time) into Ashtan's hands. At the time nobody knew you couldn't use beacons from another faction, including me. I let Ashtan know the same thing, only in reverse. Ashtan and Hashan were vying for victory, Eleusis and Targ weren't even in their mind.
When Targ launched an assault, Hashan moved to stop them for the sole reason of ensuring Targossas cannot gain another point. So when @Farrah asked us if our factions now backed Ashtan's victory, I said yes. That was just bullcrap though, there was never a three-faction alliance, I just wanted to see if you'd believe that and see what you would do. In truth, Hashan and Ashtan were in a strange stalemate, and I was in the middle of it all because they (and I) believed Belladona's faction could grant victory to either of them through the method already described: launching false assaults on their territory.
Who'd I actually side with? Well, honestly, at first I wanted Hashan to win. They deserved it the most, and @Regi only wanted my beacons to ensure Ashtan didn't get them, not intending to use them. Mighty admirable that guy, which is another reason why I think Hashan deserves this win. That said, I did give Ashtan points at the very end, @Grandue made me an offer I couldn't refuse.
So there you have it. I spent most of this event scheming and plotting, forging alliances and breaking them just as fast. Maybe that seems a bit lame to try and mess with the event like that, but I'd like to think it made Belladona's faction, who I think nobody had any hopes for mattering in the slightest, at least somewhat relevant.
tl;dr: Alrena is a Treacherous Bitch(tm).
There was definitely a three city alliance in defense of Ashtan due to Hashan's confusion as to whether Ashtan was gaining points from it. They thought there was a stalemate, but in reality they were feeding the faction that was most competitive with them points while only keeping points from the faction that was quite a bit behind.
I thought you were being sarcastic when you said you supported Ashtan, given how you said it. I assumed everyone was just being asshats to us to be asshats, though, given the interactions and the lack of benefit. I felt better when I realized the mistake they were operating under.
So on the first day, Hashan won our 3 assaults and successfully defended against Alrena's first attack. She didn't really understand the mechanics yet (we barely did ourselves) and it was easy to secure faster - 4 points total. On the second day, we won all 5 assaults and successfully defended against Deladan, which put us up to 10. Deladan's assault while we were attacking a Mhaldorian base was the first instance of a faction being involved in 2 battles simultaneously, and we won both, but Deladan's assault was buggy - we ended up wavering between 90 and 100% control for about an hour. That double win was probably the highlight of the war for my people.
After that we were at 10 points and well in the lead, we pretty much let things play out, a lot of people saved some of their beacons from this day because we were forcing the issue. Except Eleusis of course, who somehow got unlimited beacons, but then that was sorted out to our satisfaction, and we were told they would only be counted for the first five of the day. Since his opportunistic assault was veritably their VERY FIRST one of the day, I knew we'd keep that defense point.
On the third day, we won our first assault right at the Serenade - this put us to 9 points! A huge collective WTF occurred, and I issued like crazy, and got this response :
---
Greetings! Regarding your issue #76875: defending your claimed territory from those who would seek to take it over does not count toward your medallion points. Only territories successfully won via invasions will count. If you have further questions and concerns, you may raise them via ISSUE ME.
I replied to the admin with two messages:
---
Haha, that's worthy of an announce then. But thank you.
and
Also doesn't make sense. If that's the case every faction should 4v1 the others to stop assaulters from gaining points.
And my response from that same admin was this:
---
Therein likes the beauty of war and strategy!
(I'm sure he meant to say "lies")
So, from that point on, trusting in these words, I changed my core strategy -a lot-. No longer did we worry about towers, because I expected other factions to have this information and pretty much operate with the same ideas as myself. I knew that both Deladan and Alrena had failed assaults - so they were completely out of the scoring picture. I made it a TOP priority to take Targossas and Ashtan out of the picture in the same fashion, and ensure that all of our assaults were victories with no lost beacons. I did that early on the final day, achieving a perfect 13/13 score on beacon assaults, and then from there on went to take Targossas out of the picture in the very heavy handed defense against Ashtan. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY 0% CHANCE I WOULD HAVE DONE THIS with defense points in play. I would not have drawn the grief inducing ire of Targossas and Eleusis. I would not have worked so closely with Alrena or Shara to help defend against others. I would have made a priority of STOPPING BEACON PLANTS ENTIRELY, rather than letting them go through and ensuring defensive victories. I could have made a point of stealing a beacon from Shara, I pulled it off on Tesha when she had a far stronger group active.
By the way, speaking of that, we couldn't use other faction's beacons. Had a Bella one and a Z one that were un-plantable when I tried to use them. Not sure if intended, but there you are.
And finally, I of course would have actually BOTHERED TO PRIORITIZE DEFENDING instead of shrugging off assaults from teams that I was sure had no more stake in the game, like Deladan's. Because we could have earned points. Fuck.
All in all, pretty bad communication, and a little disappointed nobody had any inclination to correct me on mechanics OOCly, but I understand the competitive nature and the things your respective characters had on the line. I just ask everyone to remember that this is a game, and while RP I encourage you all to be as sneaky and underhanded as your characters wish to be, let's try to keep the OOC culture competitive, easy going, and fair, more fun for everyone that way.
PS: To all those I pissed off with seemingly aggravating nonsense strategy, there you are. I don't even ever lie IN CHARACTER, and I promise you I'm not lying or bending a single truth OOCly here, you all have my word for what it's worth. I don't participate in OOC culture or forums much, but I hope you can learn to trust it over time.
What is this RP you speak of...cause 90% of the event was basically ignoring it >>
I do agree the event would have turned out very differently had the system been a lot more transparent, and the mechanics a bit easier to understand. Bella might not have lost her first assault if so.