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  • RangorRangor Member Posts: 3,204 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited July 2016
    This' just ridic.

     6280(100%)h, 6080(100%)m, ex [sen[100]] - 18:09:06.088
    A bloodleech leaps at you, clamping with teeth onto exposed flesh and secreting some foul toxin into 
    your bloodstream. You stumble as you are afflicted with healthleech.
    Gilt draws back with a knowing smirk and utters some alien word that vibrates deep within your bones.
    Your mind swirls and body convulses in excruciating pain as your very spirit cries out in agony.
    (a) (svof): Won't batch curing commands to be done at once, but instead send them separately at once.

     2725(43%)h, 6080(100%)m, ex[hthl ae] [sen[100]] - 18:09:06.317
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  • ExelethrilExelethril Member Posts: 3,350 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited July 2016
    Come to think of it, that's not as bad as the day a gamma ray burst ignited Earth thus causing the Ordovician-Silurian extinction event.

    Wouldn't allowing bloodleech -> truename = chance of lucky RNG asthma afflict?

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  • AmranuAmranu Member Posts: 725 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Blood leech doesn't give asthma
    Exelethril
  • ExelethrilExelethril Member Posts: 3,350 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Does it give sensitivity? Though, that's not really important, since you can toggle deafness up if they go for Enervates.

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  • JovoloJovolo EnglandMember Posts: 3,163 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited July 2016
    I mean they dont have to truename immediately after enervate do they? They can store truenames, stick sensi then truename.

    Does truename still break shield and damage? Breaks shield no damage? 
  • ArmaliArmali Member, Secret Squirrel Posts: 1,167 ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    I'm kind of curious to know how he truename'd off ent balance.
  • ArchaonArchaon Member Posts: 99 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    yeah that's not right, I don't think
    If it is, that's super awesome. 
  • JhuiJhui Member Posts: 1,958 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Just can't hound I thought
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  • RyzethRyzeth Member Posts: 1,105 @ - Epic Achaean
    Not meant to be able to ent/truename or truename/ent.
  • ExelethrilExelethril Member Posts: 3,350 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    How about Runewarden SNB dsb damage not being affected by Lagua :frown: Anyone know if that was intended to work with SNB Runewarden?

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  • KenwayKenway San FranciscoMember Posts: 1,130 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    How about Runewarden SNB dsb damage not being affected by Lagua :frown: Anyone know if that was intended to work with SNB Runewarden?
    I actually encountered this same thing against Archaon in a spar as 2h. Checked in with a bunch of people about Occie damage mitigation 'cause I was curious if anything might effect it. Doesn't seem so. So may just be an over-all runie bug

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  • KenwayKenway San FranciscoMember Posts: 1,130 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Tested this on multiple people now. Can confirm. Lagua not functioning. @Makarios

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  • AylekAylek Member Posts: 170 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
  • ExelethrilExelethril Member Posts: 3,350 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Lagua works with DWC though. Kinda tempted to switch after the Nairat change + lucky Isaz proc.. but then again that'll only work on people without sip levitation every 7 secs toggles.

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  • CynlaelCynlael Member Posts: 3,257 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Aylek said:
    Only 2200 from lv3 flail DWB + a hugalaz proc? Does he have like 12 str wtf. That's like 500 less than a lv3 bastard sword+hugalaz.

  • OmorOmor Member Posts: 756 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    @Cynlael
    I think the "returning some of the damage that was meant for you" line went into play there, too.
    Omor Ceberek - Targossas

    got gud
  • TzondTzond Member Posts: 14 ✭✭ - Stalwart
    Cynlael said:
    Aylek said:
    Only 2200 from lv3 flail DWB + a hugalaz proc? Does he have like 12 str wtf. That's like 500 less than a lv3 bastard sword+hugalaz.
    Also, if you look at the percentages it was just over 50%. I can sympathize with @Aylek b/c @Mindshell hit me for just shy of 4k earlier...shits spooky, yo O.O
  • CynlaelCynlael Member Posts: 3,257 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    That... Was the point of my comment... I was surprised it was only 2200 damage, considering how much damage I've seen him do in the past to people.

  • DevranDevran Member Posts: 619 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    But oh god Occultists!
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  • MindshellMindshell Member Posts: 289 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    DWB damage gets real after the break, that was just normal dwl (+hugalaz) on tiny little @Aylek

    I'll remember to fury next time okay :(
  • AerekAerek East Tennessee, USAMember Posts: 1,818 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Devran said:
    But oh god Occultists!
    No one is suggesting artied Runewarden DWB damage is reasonable. Thankfully, there's only like 2 of them in the world.
    -- Grounded in but one perspective, what we perceive is an exaggeration of the truth.
    Anedhel
  • OmorOmor Member Posts: 756 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    @Aerek
    I think @Proficy is working on getting DWB up as well. Will be fun, then.
    Omor Ceberek - Targossas

    got gud
  • AntoniusAntonius Member Posts: 4,805 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Proficy is Infernal so the damage isn't anywhere near as bad; less strength and - most importantly - no ridiculous hugalaz procs.
    AnedhelDunn
  • DunnDunn Member, Secret Squirrel Posts: 6,186 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Them fast breaks tho


  • AnedhelAnedhel Member Posts: 2,367 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Infernal DWB's pretty scary yeah :D
  • CooperCooper IowaMember Posts: 4,999 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Infernal is in a unique position with DWB. It takes more prep, but once they have you quintuple prepped it's basically you getting to pick how you die. Your choices are pure damage, vivisect, or assault/pulp.

    People at 8k healthish might actually be able to avoid it all against someone without artie morning stars.


    This of course ignores tumbling behind walls, off piety, monks, and sentinels.

  • DunnDunn Member, Secret Squirrel Posts: 6,186 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    I was referring to the speed of their prep with my post, but yeah. Quintuple prep likely fairly quick. 


  • JinsunJinsun TN, USAMember Posts: 2,908 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    It's really bad considering black wind. Fast prep with easy escape 
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  • GiltGilt Member Posts: 17 ✭✭ - Stalwart
    edited July 2016
    Devran said:
    Gilt said:
    Truenames by itself even as artied as I am will never kill top tier fighters unless they screw up horribly. I can list probably 20 people that I know better than to even try that on. Even when using sneaky tactics or trying to stack tn's with other damage/affs. Enlighten is still a better kill strat imo.
    What offensive artifacts do you have?
    +2 int and 20% collar.
  • AegothAegoth Member Posts: 2,665 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    The bloodpact change is really underwhelming and really doesn't address the fact that it's -super- clumsy to use. You STILL need to summon daegger from Hunt, then bloodpact (if the blood hasn't faded.. which it seems to really fast), then levitate it, then Hunt again... As wells, this also doesn't address that switching demons out is ridiculously absurd in its sloppiness. You have to dispell the demon, then dispell the pentagram, then bloodpact because you cannot bloodpact with a pentagram up. All in all, I'm kind of disappointed in the change because it did nothing to really address the actual problem, and just seemed like a throwaway bandaid. 

    Log of how ridiculously sloppy it is: https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/bb31f671
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