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No entity drains mana, we can try and force you to sip health by using hound though, so you want to consider mana prio (not like that strat isn't blatantly obvious, and leads to nothing else).. Also enervate is not doing 30%, does about 21% as standard from my testing.. that fight with Alrena went for approximately 2 minutes I think, in which time I had to dodge locks multiple times, used fools, concussions and flying just to survive.. Soulmaster cant be used in this context because it consumes balance, so you regain smoke balance before the delivery. Hierophant has defences that can block it, and it requires us to sync up our entity balance with eq to deliver that finisher, so its not the most simple thing in the world to complete (to date I haven't seen any other occultist successfully deliver this finisher, and I often bork it as well)..
Enlightening is much more potent, but this strategy works better against classes that can out momentum you, its comparable to a knight who dsb's you after prepping for 2 minutes.
Armali is correct, you can defeat it, but it requires you to stray from the standard 'server curing will make me immortal' attitude and do something yourself, at which point most people opt out. I'll also add that you WOULD have still cured that aeon (and possibly got a sip in, its a race there) if it wasn't for the fact my amnesia pet also hit you at just the worst time and did consume your delayed smoke, but that was just Achaea rng deciding you definitely weren't going to survive, no planning on my behalf.
I don't know how fast you can lock against someone that's not hindering you at all, but I did it fine to @Archaon before he could grab truenames and I burn like 200 mana a combo and he's artied up the gills. @Seragorn would be no different, and judging by his remarks, it wasn't -- you had plenty of opportunities to break him down, and then when he broke out, reset to recover your mana.
As an Apostate, you have very very powerful tools to deal with this. You have vigor and you have apathy, and unless stars were running (in which case you really shouldn't have been standing there in the first place) I'm pretty confident with good curing and average luck (if his pet doesn't screw you over), you could've survived.
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All I'm saying is that it's way too easy to get TN's for how potent it is. Just because most occies don't combine it with other things to make it more effective doesn't mean it's fine as is!
Maybe it would be good to post a log, so we can see what's up?
Everyone complains about Truename. It's happened since the first person got hit with it.
This isn't an artefact-vs-no-artefacts thing. This is a some-people-don't-feel-the-effort-is-proportional-to-the-damage thing.
Why is nobody talking about Sylvan damage? It's ridiculous. Or 2Hand Knight (of any kind) where if you sip or apply your'e still going to die. Or Monk?
Truename has been complained about since the beginning of time, as I said. People don't like fighting occultists.
Seems to me people don't like fighting anyone that it's hard to fight against.
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Sounds pretty defensive to me.
2h knight, there are a variety of things you can do. Clumsiness, weariness, lethargy, most classes have access to at least one of these, and they help a ton. Rebounding's less of an issue cuz of splinter/carve, so I won't really say that's an effective defence, but they also don't have faster-than-tentacle ways of pulling you out of flying, and they don't have room hinder that follows them around (piety/isaz/gravehands are a nuisance, but it's very very hard to keep piety/gravehands up in more than one room, because of the fast decay time.) wherever they go. 2h is still kinda nuts.
Monk you can play defensively against but depending on who you're fighting, the window can be super duper narrow. I think Monk's kind of in a crazy place with the force-in-combos thing, but tumbling over a wall (preferably out of or into room hinder) at the right time can still save you (If you don't have a mono down in the room you're tumbling into, though, you're dead meat). Monk's pretty nuts.
Enervate can't be hindered. Tentacles are obnoxious. Dervish or whatever it's called is harsh. Truenames have higher than 40% base damage, according to Calira, and I'm inclined to take her word for it. The damage type is confirmed to be unblockable. Is it unstoppable? No. Is it kinda crazy for 15 seconds of prep? I think so, yes. No one's saying Occultists are impossible to live against, or anything, just that, at the moment, the enervate-into-Truename thing is not a lot of fun to fight against, which I think is valid criticism!
At the -very- least, I think Occultists are in the same realm as classes people don't like fighting much (Sylvan, 2h, Alchemist), generally speaking.
Truenames I don't -actually- have a problem with. They hurt like a bitch, which is fine, whatever, it's how easily you can get them that I think is silly.
At the very least, make Enervate stopped by other common hindering conditions. For comparison, 2H is also a momentum class, (and a strong one) but it has to deal with paralysis, clumsiness, weariness, and avoidance/riding all making its forward progress miserable. Occultist is not so weak that Enervate being immune to most hinder is necessary, and the fact that it is seems pretty out of line, whether by oversight or by intentional "Let's make this strong at first, and scale it back as needed" design philosophy.
If the Truename path were needed to be slowed down, it'd make more sense to only allow one TN harvested at a time. I believe it's currently like get mana below 40% once, get two TNs. Not 100% sure.