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Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
A - not knowing what to do
B - wondering why their F-key bound auto-function isn't killing people before they get killed
If classTimerExists ("occultist") then
If sys.bals.b and sys.bals.e and not sys.bals.smoke then --illusion catch
Send ("touch shield")
End
End
Has been a solid change for me vs TN strat.
Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
Quick interjection here:
Enervate is base 2.9 seconds of equilibrium. It is 15% of max mana, but has a flat component much like sap/leech/etc. It has a higher base percentage due to (1) requiring the target be a lesser percentage than standard mana instakills, and (2) because there's no secondary mana pressure.
It is likely that people with low intelligence stats are struggling far more than people without. I'm ok with that, for the most part. It creates some interesting parity between classes that must spec high int and result in low con, or dex in the case of serpent, etc. Whether that difference is currently too significant is possible, though I'm not convinced as of the moment: I'll make a note to watch more occultist matchups.
I see you, Murkuriaus.
Damage is probs modified by INT though.
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Aylek not artied. Bad comparison.
Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
Max INT : 53% vs unartied : 42.3% (with Algiz) - https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/750d68b1
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Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
I don't find the damage or Aeon of Truename to be particularly unreasonable; it's strong, but it needs to be. If it wasn't, then it wouldn't be a viable alternate kill method. Dodging Truename setups once they -have- the Truenames takes a bit of awareness and proactive action, which is completely fine and normal for a prep-based finisher. However, I didn't realize that Cleansaura gave 3 Truenames. That makes it the fastest prep setup in existence. I'm cool with Occultists having a prep option, but prep options generally take longer than other paths, so I don't see why Occultists should get 3 TNs for 6-12s of spamming Enervate/Hound. At that speed, they get their Truename setup 3-4 times before even fast-prepping classes like DWB and BM get to try their kills once, which doesn't seem equitable if we're both using prep-based finishers.
If Cleanseaura only gave 1 Truename, that would extend that prep sequence out to match the time of most other prep classes, and at least partially justify why Enervate isn't stopped by paralysis. (Though I still don't see a good argument for why it isn't.) Keep the damage, keep the aeon, that change alone would probably go a long way to rectify any complaints about it, by letting classes actually fight it for longer than 10s before they start getting Star/Hound/Truename'd.
Cleanseaura opens up their aura for a short period (like, 8s or something?).
At that point, you can use abomination (Domination, ent balance), to strip one truename at a time, so there's another bit of non-zero time that it takes.
Still, fighting Gilt, Jinsun, and I'm sure soon to be Archaon, the prep time on TN setups is much faster than anything dedicated prep-based classes manage. Sylvans are also annoying to fight because they build to 40 Arcane power in about 10s. That kind of prep time is absurd any way you cut it, and TN is stronger because they keep the TNs they do manage to harvest. Slowing it down would likely solve some of the gripes about TN setups without affecting TN's intrinsic power. (At least in 1v1. I have empathy with folks' gripes about groups, though I've not experienced that myself)
This would be true if it were actually a prep setup, but it's not. If you exit room to heal up before they get cleanseaura then they retain 0 progress, which is very different to actual prep like limb damage or fashioning.
Enervate is absolutely a momentum path, which is why it reaches its conclusion faster than prep classes do. The advantages of Enervate are simply that it's nigh unhinderable, and the downsides are that it in turn offers zero hindering, and that it leads to truename collection instead of an outright kill.
I think you're dipping into hyperbole a bit much. And I want to make it clear that I'm not saying that in a snarky manner. We're all guilty of being passionate about something and coming across strongly.
However, I don't think reducing the number of Truenames you can harvest at once (still able to have three, just take longer) would be too bad of a change if it was deemed necessary. Markarios said he was going to watch more Occultist matchups. Will have to wait and see.
Yes, gathering the TNs is momentum-based, but the speed of that momentum (especially if you catch me sipping health) is beyond quick, it's not really a question of "if" you get Truenames, you *will* if I stay in the room for any length of time. That's why I referenced Sylvan. Electrify is a momentum strat, but the fact they can reach it in 10s means you can't really run to avoid it; you'd spend all your time running and never hitting back. To actually fight the Sylvan, you just have to resign yourself to the fact that you're going to get Electrified, and you're probably going to have to dodge it 2-3 times before you get to try and kill them.
That reality is just pretty annoying to go up against.
I just don't really understand where this business about being unable to hinder comes from when there plainly seems to be plenty of options that people just rarely use.
For example, @Kenway is the only 2h I fight regularly that uses targeted leg break/upsets to break momentum. If I don't preapply against him, I'll die because I simply won't be able to make any progress. @Farrah is the only SnB I've fought that uses ferocity to get a quick impale that also forces a momentum break. I've never seen anyone but @Seragorn uses concussion bombs to delay post lock finishing. @Bors is the only Sylvan who uses aerial mixed with illusions/shield to stall. All of these tactics work, and almost every class has something akin to it, but it just seems like they're not being explored in lieu of crying for nerfs.
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