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Classlead Discussion Q2 2016

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  • MizikMizik Member Posts: 2,095 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Are you trolling?
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  • AegothAegoth Member Posts: 2,671 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Not in the slightest. 
  • FarrahFarrah Member, Secret Squirrel Posts: 2,341 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Do you know that summon daegger/blood pact are balanceless, and levitate and hunt are usable off balance? Some classes require a lot more time away from offense to prep a room. Apostate's room prep is nice. Obviously you don't perform the actions separately like in the log though. If doing that, just prep the room the normal way (carve pentagram, summon).

    Bloodpact is for on the fly summoning without stopping your offense. Instead, all you sacrifice is temporarily stopping your hunt (which should always be going as apo since usable off balance).
    Dunn
  • DunnDunn Member, Secret Squirrel Posts: 6,188 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    @Farrah ;

    Would you rather play level 1 serpent or level 1 bard in light of the weapons changes?



  • FarrahFarrah Member, Secret Squirrel Posts: 2,341 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    It depends how much you love phase/evade/pickpocket and whether you love or hate the complexity of using limb breaks and heartsfury/riposte well. I think bard beats serpent in 1v1 power because of leg breaks.

    But bard can't evade. :(
  • DunnDunn Member, Secret Squirrel Posts: 6,188 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    I was doing kelp stacks on bard and locking fairly consistently with a non Artie rapier when we were testing the changes. I'm meh about the leg break stuff. I barely limb prep on knight! 

    Evade mmmmmmmmmmmmm. Veiled phase mmmmmmm. 


  • FarrahFarrah Member, Secret Squirrel Posts: 2,341 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Knight has room hinder though. If you're not using the badass leg breaks, might as well be serpent imo. Test targets don't usually walk away so the leg breaks aren't needed. Real targets do!
  • DunnDunn Member, Secret Squirrel Posts: 6,188 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    So pinshot and evade win. Gotcha.


  • ArmaliArmali Member, Secret Squirrel Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    What's that? Nerf evade?
    KenwayAnedhel
  • AegothAegoth Member Posts: 2,671 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    people have been trying for years
  • SobriquetSobriquet Member Posts: 2,288 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    What do the changes to torn tendons do? Just make the gravehands style hinder a flat % instead of tiered depending on number of fractures?
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  • KenwayKenway San FranciscoMember Posts: 1,130 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Sobriquet said:
    What do the changes to torn tendons do? Just make the gravehands style hinder a flat % instead of tiered depending on number of fractures? 
    Yep. Also has a very low chance of procing on flight now.

    - Limb Counter - Fracture Relapsing -
    "Honestly, I just love that it counts limbs." - Mizik Corten
    Sobriquet
  • DunnDunn Member, Secret Squirrel Posts: 6,188 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    It's a lower % chance to proc than something like isaz/piety/tentacles/whatever, but it's static instead of starting low and building with fractions.

    And what Kenway said.


    Sobriquet
  • AnedhelAnedhel Member Posts: 2,367 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Any idea what the approximate rate is to stop people trying to fly? 
  • CaliraCalira Member, Secret Squirrel Posts: 540 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    I tested 135 times with a Ring of Flying and failed 50 of them before getting bored. A 37% proc rate does not strike me as low.
  • AnedhelAnedhel Member Posts: 2,367 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    That's actually pretty great :O 
  • KenwayKenway San FranciscoMember Posts: 1,130 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Calira said:
    I tested 135 times with a Ring of Flying and failed 50 of them before getting bored. A 37% proc rate does not strike me as low.
    Considering its half of normal room hinder id call it low. Wasnt a complaint or anything i think its a good rate but it is objectively low when compared to other hinder chances. Have not yet tested the bew tendon proc rate. May do that later.

    - Limb Counter - Fracture Relapsing -
    "Honestly, I just love that it counts limbs." - Mizik Corten
  • AntoniusAntonius Member Posts: 4,807 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Uhh, what? Pretty sure 37 isn't half of 33.
    Anedhel
  • AnedhelAnedhel Member Posts: 2,367 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Was gonna say, I'd always heard standard room hinders were 1/3 chance. 
  • KenwayKenway San FranciscoMember Posts: 1,130 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Oh, sorry switched 33 to fail and 66 to not. Its 2am. 

    - Limb Counter - Fracture Relapsing -
    "Honestly, I just love that it counts limbs." - Mizik Corten
  • BorranBorran Member Posts: 845 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    You fail to leave 100% of the times that you don't try. 

  • AhmetAhmet Wherever I wanna beMember Posts: 3,370 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Borran said:
    You fail to leave 100% of the times that you don't try. 
    Technically speaking, you don't fail any of the times that you don't try.
    Huh. Neat.
    Shirszae
  • BorranBorran Member Posts: 845 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    You win this time!

    And everyone should follow this logic when they're faced with slipping on bananas. You may get eaten by a jack-in-the-box, but at least you didn't fail to leave. 

  • XadenXaden Member Posts: 2,315 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Next classlead : Unphasing via eye-sigil forces totem hit.

    With a sibilant 'shhhiiiinnngggt!', you smoothly sheathe a Scimitar of Falcons.
    You begin to wield an eye sigil in your left hand.
    You cast the eye sigil at the ground, and it bursts with a flash of light.
    Bleak is pulled back into phase with reality!
    A Scimitar of Falcons rings out brightly as you rapidly draw it from a silver-banded scabbard.
    (0)6877h|100% 3881m|86% 98% 100% (ex)(::0)(13:22:38.823) 
    Bleak says in an annoyingly loud voice, "Duanatharan."
    (0)6877h|100% 3881m|86% 98% 100% (ex)(::0)(13:22:39.153) 
         He is a coward who has to bring two friends as backup to jump people hunting.

  • EguzkiEguzki Member Posts: 31 ✭✭ - Stalwart
    edited August 2016
    Shouldn't balance things around arties.
  • AegothAegoth Member Posts: 2,671 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Because phase is totally balanced. 
  • TolanTolan Member Posts: 181 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Xaden said:
    Next classlead : Unphasing via eye-sigil forces totem hit.

    With a sibilant 'shhhiiiinnngggt!', you smoothly sheathe a Scimitar of Falcons.
    You begin to wield an eye sigil in your left hand.
    You cast the eye sigil at the ground, and it bursts with a flash of light.
    Bleak is pulled back into phase with reality!
    A Scimitar of Falcons rings out brightly as you rapidly draw it from a silver-banded scabbard.
    (0)6877h|100% 3881m|86% 98% 100% (ex)(::0)(13:22:38.823) 
    Bleak says in an annoyingly loud voice, "Duanatharan."
    (0)6877h|100% 3881m|86% 98% 100% (ex)(::0)(13:22:39.153) 
    I had something written up, but pushed a button and it didn't end up as a draft, so I won't type it again ..

    All I'll say this time is I agree it should be made like Imperian. I also think that all astralform and blackwind should also be included.
  • JarrodJarrod Member, Seafaring Liason Posts: 3,060 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    I just want a non-factional way to strip astral/bwind, preferably with a channel time longer than the balance. No more prone-wind and wait.
    image
    Cascades of quicksilver light streak across the firmament as the celestial voice of Ourania intones, "Oh Jarrod..."

    AtalkezAnedhelAntidas
  • XadenXaden Member Posts: 2,315 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited August 2016
    Eguzki said:
    Shouldn't balance things around arties.
    It's nothing to do with arte's. He could easily have just triggered evade off of that. 

    I'd settle for a loss of balance, or a 1-2 second stun.

    ETA : Admittedly all three evade directions were guards too but that's not the point.
         He is a coward who has to bring two friends as backup to jump people hunting.

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