The Bal'met event

Silas

I would've liked a little time between Shallam going boom and the revival of Deucalion. Even just a few hours to allow for people to feel at least some doubt would have added a lot to the atmosphere of being a refugee.

The clans are okay, but there should have been an opportunity for some people to fall away, though I can understand admin twitchiness in that regard with not wanting everyone to just leave and hate everything.

ETA: revised my feelings on the clans with the thought of taking the exact same people and the exact same leadership structure into Shallam 2.0. Absolutely no point destroying the city if that ends up happening.

Halos

Shallamese are now the jews of achaea apparently.

Jonathin

Can I have an honours line? "He is a refugee of Shallam."

Blujixapug

Silas said:

I would've liked a little time between Shallam going boom and the revival of Deucalion. Even just a few hours to allow for people to feel at least some doubt would have added a lot to the atmosphere of being a refugee.

The clans are okay, but there should have been an opportunity for some people to fall away, though I can understand admin twitchiness in that regard with not wanting everyone to just leave and hate everything.

ETA: revised my feelings on the clans with the thought of taking the exact same people and the exact same leadership structure into Shallam 2.0. Absolutely no point destroying the city if that ends up happening.

 I also would have liked a little more time after Shallam being destroyed for Veldrin to make some forum posts.

Jiraishin

@Halos except you can still log in on Saturdays.

Veldrin

Blujixapug said:

Silas said:

I would've liked a little time between Shallam going boom and the revival of Deucalion. Even just a few hours to allow for people to feel at least some doubt would have added a lot to the atmosphere of being a refugee.

The clans are okay, but there should have been an opportunity for some people to fall away, though I can understand admin twitchiness in that regard with not wanting everyone to just leave and hate everything.

ETA: revised my feelings on the clans with the thought of taking the exact same people and the exact same leadership structure into Shallam 2.0. Absolutely no point destroying the city if that ends up happening.

 I also would have liked a little more time after Shallam being destroyed for Veldrin to make some forum posts.

Here's your post. Happy?

Silas

Darklyre said:

So during the middle of a skirmish between Ashtan and Mhaldor:

Cain arrives from the up.

Hellrazor Cain de Soulis, Mhaldorian Warlord says in a growling voice, "Embers."

Hellrazor Cain de Soulis, Mhaldorian Warlord says in a growling voice, "Embers 
anyone."

Cain rattles his cup.

This event would also improve if the antagonist wasn't represented by dumb crap like this.

This isn't a reflection on everybody in Mhaldor, of course, but the above is about 99.5% of what people outside of Mhaldor see as your antagonist roleplay for this event, and it really ruins the epic feel of it.

Vayne

Halos said:

Shallamese are now the jews of achaea apparently.

Has it not always been so?...Jaru...Shallam...say it ten times fast. :O

Tvistor

Oh my god you're right.

Delphinus

Before and after:

  


They destroyed that little island outside the Peshwar. Rest in peace, little *island.

Iocun

Does that mean we get a larger Peshwar Delta with more sharks to hunt? Cool.

Sothantos

As much as I enjoyed the event, I'm still rather skeptical about what it's going to do for Shallam. With the players being retained and Deucalion/a refugee camp being set up so soon after the destruction, we've skipped grief and hopped straight into reconstruction, and it seems like not much is going to change with the city structure/culture.

Also, wtf @ the sword magically disappearing and appearing in Halos's hands. Way to screw Silas over.

Tvistor

@Silas

A large part of being an antagonist is knowing when it is inappropriate to open your mouth, and when you should let an event run its course.

Some people on PT were clamoring for an immediate raid on the refugees, while the more reasonable of us decided it would be less of a jerk move to let everyone RP the situation for a while instead of spending it praying.

I can't punish anyone for being a 'terrible antagonist' though.

Veldrin

Well not sure there @Sothantos, you can still do grief while in a refugee camp. There's not much reconstruction we can do right now, all we can do is hold some semblance of government while figuring out where the heck to go from here.

I had already set up a temporarily refuge for my house before the funeral pyre got lit in Jaru.

The biggest HUH? Moment was when HWHO/HT vanished along with all the org clans, I don't see why their existence depends on the physical house estate.

Lothien

To echo others' concerns, I hope the same leadership structure doesn't just repeat itself. HELP REFUGEES -- still led by Halos and all the leadership structure is the same as far as I know. It makes sense in a way to have the old leader try to salvage things, but it's just off-putting.

Tvistor

To be fair, I hear Halos is great anyway.

Delphinus

@Veldrin: http://wiki.achaea.com/Oversoul

Kresslack

Rangor

I thought you guys were trolling for the first 3 pages.

Antidas

@Rangor honestly, i did too. Had to log in to confirm.

Synbios

Halos said:

Shallamese are now the jews of achaea apparently.

On the other hand, Shallam can now do push-ups with no hands.

Arlanda

So I am guessing no events for a few days for ember collection

Darroth

Would have been neat if the refugees could still speak Shallamese. Kinda odd that we suddenly just forget the language we've been speaking for years. 

Rean

Same with the disbanded Orders being barred from Order-only portions of the temple, reactions, libraries, etc. etc. Would be nice, but the coding would probably be more frustrating than we might think. 

Blujixapug

Delphinus said:
They destroyed that little island outside the Peshwar. Rest in peace, little *island.

You'll always have Cormorant Rock.

Iocun said:

Does that mean we get a larger Peshwar Delta with more sharks to hunt? Cool.

And more oysters to stormhammer three at a time? That was the best thing about that place.

Delphinus said:

@Veldrin: http://wiki.achaea.com/Oversoul

I always suspected Delphinus invented oversoul himself and the concept self-perpetuated.

Panpardus

I guess now is a perfect opportunity to build New Shallam? (insert new city name) up to exactly how people have wanted it for some time.

For me (yes its only my opinion) they should run it exactly like Mhaldor, make it a righteous city where their are certain things expected.

You want a truffle -- GTFO - Join elsewhere

Want to be a care bear - GTFO - Join elsewhere

You don't want to defend the ideals of the city - GTFO - Join elsewhere

You get the point.

Start with the houses, if you want to join new city blah then this is what is going to happen, what you dont want to follow that, sure Oneiros can build you a new house estate in the desert or whereever.  

The first house leader is told what is to be done, not what they want to do, 

For those that dont want to be part of a new city they have a choice, join Cyrene a neutral good orientation which is similar to what Shallam was or just go rogue.

It will be interesting to actually see what happens.

Jonathin

Militant Shallam would be good. Militant on par with Mhaldor would not. There's a happy medium somewhere, but it would require the leadership of the city and houses to change mindsets and not try to jump straight back into the status quo.

Achilles

Panpardus said:

I guess now is a perfect opportunity to build New Shallam? (insert new city name) up to exactly how people have wanted it for some time.

For me (yes its only my opinion) they should run it exactly like Mhaldor, make it a righteous city where their are certain things expected.

You want a truffle -- GTFO - Join elsewhere

Want to be a care bear - GTFO - Join elsewhere

You don't want to defend the ideals of the city - GTFO - Join elsewhere

You get the point.

Start with the houses, if you want to join new city blah then this is what is going to happen, what you dont want to follow that, sure Oneiros can build you a new house estate in the desert or whereever.  

The first house leader is told what is to be done, not what they want to do, 

For those that dont want to be part of a new city they have a choice, join Cyrene a neutral good orientation which is similar to what Shallam was or just go rogue.

It will be interesting to actually see what happens.

Agree with this for the most part.  That's the direction I intend to take the Templars and whatever "good" city we get from this.

Iocun

Hard not to jump back into the status quo though when only the physical city was destroyed, but the communities and ideologies preserved. The Shallamese players are still the same as before the event, after all. Why would this event, so far, make them -want- something different?

Thaumas

New Shallam with the same old guard in charge. Nothing will change. But as long as it's not a mess as easily raided as the old one, I slightly approve.