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Titanic CTF
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The CTF is a fun game, but does it really need any more of a reward than bragging rights, maybe some sort of shiny statue for the city.
Targossas is (vaguely) an ideological enemy of Eleusis (because it's a city, because Deucora blasted a hole in the ER, blah blah). Not the other way around. We're enemies of convenience. Unless Targ suddenly decides nuking the forests on the daily is what is best for Creation, the Eleusis-Targ relationship will likely never be as horribly irreconcilable as the Eleusis-Mhaldor relationship.
What about the Eleusians who accepted the help/offer?
Yeah, there's a historical basis for them winning if they help each other... And Mhaldor/Ashtan were basically completely unbeatable when they were together, yet they drifted apart based on conscious decisions made by the players that that wasn't good for the game and made for less interesting RP. Part of the annoyance here is that Targossas only pays lipservice to the unspoken agreement of 'every city for itself' that's been the norm for years.
Whoa. Whoa. Whoa, bro. We totally tried to Breathrain/holobomb one of your hills. Let's not take our ineptitude for a lack of hate.
Smugness, on part of any faction, toward any other faction, is a dull and predictable reaction. Inevitable, perhaps, but boring.
I threw that eye sigil. Owned you.
As for the rest of the complaints about OOC boundaries and shit, well, I'll pretty much just echo what @Halos said. Whether or not it was an asshole thing to do OOCly, it was a perfectly acceptable move by IC standards.
And @Aegoth, Eleusis isn't an enemy. More accurately, Eleusis sees us as an enemy, but we see them essentially as people trying to do the right thing and going about it in a mildly wrong way. Unlike Mhaldor who we see as a group of people trying to do the right thing (technically the 1st Truth is about growth of creation and all, for those who didn't know) but going about it an incredibly wrong and screwed up way that does more harm than good. Hence why it would be seen as a lesser evil to let Eleusis win rather than let Mhaldor win.
It's CTF, which is a game. It's not like it's "Ideologically pure City-versus-City conflict." People've always done slightly questionable things during Y700 events that really shouldn't ever be taken as the measure of a City's actual stance/position. I'm one hundred percent fine with Targossas helping Mhaldor lose a CTF. Wouldn't be okay with Targossas fighting a war for Eleusis (which it hasn't, and won't).
And it's funny to see that some of you, whom I very distinctly remember have taken dives to not gain points in order to just mess with others' chances to win CTFs throughout the year, whining so hard about the shoe being on the other foot. Pretty much everyone here, in some alt or another, I'm sure, has actually done that to another faction, so, forreal, take it easy.
Arguing about whether a motivation is acceptable or not isn't going to be particularly beneficial, because we all play characters in different factions. Perspective is highly important. I'm getting that from Mhaldor's perspective it was entirely unjustifiable IC because they don't see Mhaldor as being any more of an enemy to Targossas than Eleusis. Targossas doesn't really seem to get how it isn't obvious that Eleusis is far less of an enemy compared to Mhaldor.
The thing is, arguing about what's right and wrong isn't going to get anywhere. Sometimes it's best to just agree to disagree, and there doesn't seem like there's going to be any changing Mhaldor's mind or Targossas' mind. And that's okay. I just hope they don't think it's out of OOC hatred or anything like that, it's fine if they think the reasoning is flawed, though.
I think that believing people hate you/your faction OOCly would be really unhealthy, and that it would probably lead to behavior that isn't particularly great. At the end of the day it's important to remember that it's just a game, and try not to feel like IC actions mean ill OOC feelings, much less were motivated by such. It's probably naive to hope that the majority of such a small community can be friends, but at the very least I hope there aren't any lingering feelings of OOC animosity.
Whoever dropped all those holocausts while phased, they really hurt! And I hope I will never find myself in the same room as Jarrod and Crixos. They locked me so fast that I did not even have the chance to run.
But srs, there's really nothing else left to discuss. The divine of Targ at least support it, I imagine Eleusian ones don't give a damn, ours is busy building a brothel deep in the Inferno, and Mhaldor will just have to try for their first CTF win another time.
Edit: I am all for discussion of crazy skills and logs, mind. I wish I had more time to play with things. I didn't even get to check out much except that I have 44% devotion left still.
Edit edit: I'm so tired, what is english.
That love soon might end You are unbreaking
And be known in its aching Though quaking
Shown in this shaking Though crazy
Lately of my wasteland, baby That's just wasteland, baby
..especially not Tesha.
I forgot I could evade out of gravehands in the "I love you" log from Tharos, too. Actually, I forgot I could evade repeatedly. I guess dirge went to my head a bit, because I was having far too much fun making gravehands go away.
- With sharp, crackling tones, Kyrra tells you, "The ladies must love you immensely."
- (Eleusian Ranger Techs): Savira says, "Most of the hard stuff seem to have this built in code like: If adventurer_hitting_me = "Sarathai" then send("terminate and selfdestruct")."
- Makarios says, "Serve well and perish."
- Xaden says, "Xaden confirmed scrub 2017."
Results of disembowel testing | Knight limb counter | GMCP AB files
Cascades of quicksilver light streak across the firmament as the celestial voice of Ourania intones, "Oh Jarrod..."
OOCly, great for them. More conflict is great.
ICly, who gives a damn? They're pissed off that a river was diverted, some forest may have been destroyed, and we're building with bricks and stone and other materials rather than living in a tree. When you're opposing three factions that are trying to pervert the very nature of Creation that sort of pales in comparison, especially when their attacks don't actually work against your goal at all.
Results of disembowel testing | Knight limb counter | GMCP AB files
Cascades of quicksilver light streak across the firmament as the celestial voice of Ourania intones, "Oh Jarrod..."
It's sort of a shame, because I liked getting raided by them for a change of pace (it's usually Mhaldor).
- With sharp, crackling tones, Kyrra tells you, "The ladies must love you immensely."
- (Eleusian Ranger Techs): Savira says, "Most of the hard stuff seem to have this built in code like: If adventurer_hitting_me = "Sarathai" then send("terminate and selfdestruct")."
- Makarios says, "Serve well and perish."
- Xaden says, "Xaden confirmed scrub 2017."
@Mhaldor bring it! We're hardened logosmas grief veterans.