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  • MorsulMorsul Member Posts: 66 ✭✭ - Stalwart
    actions ------> consequences.

    Grief them all until property is returned.
  • TorrentTorrent Member Posts: 177 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Its always been a rule usually that if someone steals from an org in the past they were full PK until they made restitution for (aka give the item back or pay the amount of the item). It used to happen when Magi would steal crystals from Master Crystal before when having no crystals would kill it. This happened in Eleusis, when Wicella stole a ton of gold from there when she left, and she was open PK till she returned it. Its an old rule that is not used very often, it also is used to discourage stealing from orgs. Granted this is mostly used for individuals, this gets a little hazy when its org v. org.
  • SothantosSothantos Member Posts: 452 @ - Epic Achaean
    edited July 10
    Achilles said:
    As far as guard bashing goes, I know Sothantos did it to Shallam after he won it so it's definitely not a Jhui tradition, it's what happens when someone gets a dozen TFs and this was pre-guards being buffed considerably (they doubled their health at the very least).  Ashtan used to guard bash Shallam with any flimsy excuse, new city leader, new MoW, new shoes, Dunn's first beer, Taco Tuesday.  Ashtan didn't even bother defending (and they had defenders) but Farrah just kept bashing away (and died probably 50 times from it) without much resistance.  A couple of experienced defenders could stop guard bashing pretty effectively if they wanted.

    I don't remember this very clearly, but I'm pretty sure I wasn't the first one to guard bash after winning Staff. I'm not sure who did it before me, though.

  • AstarodAstarod Member Posts: 401 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    You are leading a group consisting of: Astarod.

    You cease to follow Mr. Astarod Blackstone, the Merciless.

    Well fuck. Help.
     The Divine voice of Twilight echoes in your head, "See that it is. I espy a tithe of potential in your mortal soul, Astarod Blackstone. Let us hope that it flourishes and does not falter as so many do."
  • TvistorTvistor Member Posts: 2,899 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    I'm not sure what metapassion is, but I know a very high quality sneer when I see one.
    MishgulCaelan
  • RangorRangor Member Posts: 3,236 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    All staff winners are obligated to guard bash for as long as they can upon obtaining the staff. It is tradition and motivation to the cities to perform better the next year.
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    CaelanFarrahAdrik
  • TorrentTorrent Member Posts: 177 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    You know the carnival games where you just throw money down hoping you will get better but then really don't..... That is how I feel about the Moirah, that thing hates me.
    MishgulSkyeCailin
  • MinifieMinifie Member Posts: 2,295 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Torrent said:
    You know the carnival games where you just throw money down hoping you will get better but then really don't..... That is how I feel about the Moirah, that thing hates me.
    I think you mean, “surprise mechanics”.


    (Mhaldor's Next Top Model): Taryius says, "Oops, thats not a foray. Thats two novices going at it in the wilderness."
    SiduriKuririnTvistor
  • IctinusIctinus Administrator Posts: 228 Admin
    Torrent said:
    You know the carnival games where you just throw money down hoping you will get better but then really don't..... That is how I feel about the Moirah, that thing hates me.
    There is a technique to the moirah!
    "If you build it, they will come."
    Ayani
  • YselaYsela Member Posts: 143 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Cooper said:
    Jiraishin said:
    It's not illegal, actually. It's the usual way of dealing with org perms being used to steal org property. The thief gets killed until they give the property back.

    Where are you getting the info for this? I've seen a LOT of heavy org theft, and not once has it ever been "We get to kill you until you give what you stole back"
    Unless it's a surname
    MishgulProficyKyrraAilea
  • MarisellaMarisella Member Posts: 168 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Today, motivated by the showcase of an Elemental faction, I decided to head up the branches of Yggdrasil again.

    However, I found out that trying to defect to a different Elemental faction was harder than I thought. I really should have chosen my faction carefully in the past. These lesser Earth elementals really hurt, especially when you decide to hunt them in the desert, and then promptly run out of health elixir while surrounded by so many aggressives...

    Ouch!

    Also I bought way too many expensive things in the Worlds' Fair. Now I have to think of how I will be able to afford to non-decay the things I like.
    MroxylYae
  • TorrentTorrent Member Posts: 177 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Ictinus said:
    Torrent said:
    You know the carnival games where you just throw money down hoping you will get better but then really don't..... That is how I feel about the Moirah, that thing hates me.
    There is a technique to the moirah!
    Yeah I have figured out some of it, just not the initial staying on part. Hehe
    AyaniSkye
  • CooperCooper IowaMember Posts: 5,121 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited July 10
    Marisella said:
    Today, motivated by the showcase of an Elemental faction, I decided to head up the branches of Yggdrasil again.

    However, I found out that trying to defect to a different Elemental faction was harder than I thought. I really should have chosen my faction carefully in the past. These lesser Earth elementals really hurt, especially when you decide to hunt them in the desert, and then promptly run out of health elixir while surrounded by so many aggressives...

    Ouch!

    Also I bought way too many expensive things in the Worlds' Fair. Now I have to think of how I will be able to afford to non-decay the things I like.
    I think that there is a Renegades talisman that can break your allegiance. Not sure what they cost though, might not be viable. @Marisella

  • PyoriPyori Member Posts: 1,681 @ - Epic Achaean
    'An elemental injunction' yes. Penwize has like 60 of them, sells for around ~30-50 credits. Forget exactly.

  • AlethAleth Member Posts: 3
    I lost my mine and my complete mining legion today, I'm sad :'(
  • KuririnKuririn Member Posts: 33
    Placing one foot on the chest of Emiya to hold her in place, you drive your
    staff down with all your strength into her weakened throat. The gurgling death 
    rattle is the only sound to herald her death as she gives a single great 
    convulsion beneath your heel, then falls still.
    You have slain Emiya... Reset Success!

    And dispatch training continues on higher health targets. B)
    AstarodTaleila
  • MarisellaMarisella Member Posts: 168 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Mathonwy said:
    Not gonna lie, I was pretty disappointed with how badly I let my team down in the first round of the debate, but I hope I made up for it in the second. Regardless, I had a lot of fun with @Truax, @Lii, @Sothantos, @Farrah, and @Jiraishin over the last couple of days, so I want to thank them all for making this debate contest a reality. It's rare you get to see people argue about something that isn't text-religion or text-politics, so being able to take on some of the interesting subjects we have had to take on is really refreshing.

    And hey, at least the halfling child is still on my side!
    I wanted to turn up for this, but it was too early for me. What topic was it on this time?
  • PyoriPyori Member Posts: 1,681 @ - Epic Achaean
    Marisella said:
    Mathonwy said:
    Not gonna lie, I was pretty disappointed with how badly I let my team down in the first round of the debate, but I hope I made up for it in the second. Regardless, I had a lot of fun with @Truax, @Lii, @Sothantos, @Farrah, and @Jiraishin over the last couple of days, so I want to thank them all for making this debate contest a reality. It's rare you get to see people argue about something that isn't text-religion or text-politics, so being able to take on some of the interesting subjects we have had to take on is really refreshing.

    And hey, at least the halfling child is still on my side!
    I wanted to turn up for this, but it was too early for me. What topic was it on this time?
    https://www.achaea.com/2019/07/11/sophists-win-debate-2/


    MarisellaTvistorNicola
  • TorrentTorrent Member Posts: 177 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Mathonwy said:
    Not gonna lie, I was pretty disappointed with how badly I let my team down in the first round of the debate, but I hope I made up for it in the second. Regardless, I had a lot of fun with @Truax, @Lii, @Sothantos, @Farrah, and @Jiraishin over the last couple of days, so I want to thank them all for making this debate contest a reality. It's rare you get to see people argue about something that isn't text-religion or text-politics, so being able to take on some of the interesting subjects we have had to take on is really refreshing.

    And hey, at least the halfling child is still on my side!
    Well that topic really is text-religion and text-politics, Eleusians have to argue that each day. I enjoyed watch to other factions especially the Ashtani talk about it, it was very enjoyable to read. Well done both sides!
    SiduriRyx
  • KresslackKresslack Florida, United StatesMember Posts: 6,200 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Torrent said:
    You know the carnival games where you just throw money down hoping you will get better but then really don't..... That is how I feel about the Moirah, that thing hates me.
    What is the Moirah?


  • ProficyProficy Member Posts: 384 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Farrah said:
    Iakimen said:
    Jiraishin said:

    As for the guard bash... A) That's staff tradition and your lot did it when you had staff too, so shut the fuck up about it. Though I can pretty much promise that retaliatory guard bashes are upcoming. And B ), since you are perpetually saying how you are never butthurt, you love all forms of pk and conflict... shut the fuck up about it. Or rejoice, because see point A.

    How much of a tradition precisely is this guard bashing? I started playing after y600, so I can't speak with certainty, but to my knowledge neither Sothantos, Penwize, or Rangor did the guard bashing that Jhui did. The tradition you speak of started with Jhui. I'm fairly certain Jarrod did not do it, though I wasn't playing then too, so I can't say for sure. Even if Jarrod  and everyone before him guard bashed, that's really irrelevant. Targossas under the following two staff winners certainly did guard bash. The tradition could've ended with Jhui or Jarrod, but it was Targossas that chose to perpetuate it over the past 3 years.

    The only people who claim this is tradition is Targossas (I don't remember Jhui doing it because of "tradition", but because he could, which imo is a far better reason for guard bashing then the bullshit you're spouting), the only cities that have followed this tradition over the past few years have been Targossas, and the only people who think calling it tradition is a good enough reason to justify staff raiding is, really, only Targossas.

    I've no problems with guard raiding itself - I wished Farrah kept going, frankly, I certainly would have - but I've a problem with your faction justifying it via such a frail reason. That Targossas is rationalizing a fairly griefy mechanic based on the actions some faction did to you five years ago, when 95% of current Targossas wasn't even in Targossas at that time (including your current Staff winner, whom iirc was barely active back then), is absolutely ridiculous. Especially the bolded. Are you really referring to an event years ago for which neither you nor Astarod - and neither the vast majority of Ashtan's and Targossas's current combat core - were even close to being present for? Are you all still exhibiting repressed feelings of rage over Jhui's guard bashing, even though most of you weren't even there for the act to begin with? Or are you too afraid to admit that you're guard raiding just because you're strong enough to, and this "staff tradition" lets you pretend otherwise? Because it doesn't.

    I'd suggest the next time you guard raid, you do it proudly and explain that it was just for griefing purposes and to impart feelings of rage, despair, impotence, and vengeance onto your victim. That is why I guard raid - and that is why you guard raid, too. The Staff lets you guard raid better. It doesn't give you a better reason to do it than the rest of us. Don't ever say this again.


    You are like the Grinch stealing Christmas. Quit ruining our traditions. :(

    ("Tradition" doesn't mean it's for vengeance though. I think every staff bearer should do it because how often are you strong enough to solo bash full stationary stacks? But if every staff bearer does it... What is that called? It's not meant as a blame game by most of us at least.)
    Lol, step your game up... I can solo guard bash a stack of constables with a single TF and rare minerals....
  • JiraishinJiraishin trapped in a thawing block of iceMember Posts: 1,957 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Mathonwy said:
    Not gonna lie, I was pretty disappointed with how badly I let my team down in the first round of the debate, but I hope I made up for it in the second. Regardless, I had a lot of fun with @Truax, @Lii, @Sothantos, @Farrah, and @Jiraishin over the last couple of days, so I want to thank them all for making this debate contest a reality. It's rare you get to see people argue about something that isn't text-religion or text-politics, so being able to take on some of the interesting subjects we have had to take on is really refreshing.

    And hey, at least the halfling child is still on my side!
    We'll get you next time! 

    Also, my eye is on that child. Dirty Occie sympathizer. 
    ________________________
    The soul of Ashmond says, "Always with the sniping."
  • FarrahFarrah Member, Secret Squirrel Posts: 2,443 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited July 11
    Proficy said:
    Farrah said:
    Iakimen said:
    Jiraishin said:

    As for the guard bash... A) That's staff tradition and your lot did it when you had staff too, so shut the fuck up about it. Though I can pretty much promise that retaliatory guard bashes are upcoming. And B ), since you are perpetually saying how you are never butthurt, you love all forms of pk and conflict... shut the fuck up about it. Or rejoice, because see point A.

    How much of a tradition precisely is this guard bashing? I started playing after y600, so I can't speak with certainty, but to my knowledge neither Sothantos, Penwize, or Rangor did the guard bashing that Jhui did. The tradition you speak of started with Jhui. I'm fairly certain Jarrod did not do it, though I wasn't playing then too, so I can't say for sure. Even if Jarrod  and everyone before him guard bashed, that's really irrelevant. Targossas under the following two staff winners certainly did guard bash. The tradition could've ended with Jhui or Jarrod, but it was Targossas that chose to perpetuate it over the past 3 years.

    The only people who claim this is tradition is Targossas (I don't remember Jhui doing it because of "tradition", but because he could, which imo is a far better reason for guard bashing then the bullshit you're spouting), the only cities that have followed this tradition over the past few years have been Targossas, and the only people who think calling it tradition is a good enough reason to justify staff raiding is, really, only Targossas.

    I've no problems with guard raiding itself - I wished Farrah kept going, frankly, I certainly would have - but I've a problem with your faction justifying it via such a frail reason. That Targossas is rationalizing a fairly griefy mechanic based on the actions some faction did to you five years ago, when 95% of current Targossas wasn't even in Targossas at that time (including your current Staff winner, whom iirc was barely active back then), is absolutely ridiculous. Especially the bolded. Are you really referring to an event years ago for which neither you nor Astarod - and neither the vast majority of Ashtan's and Targossas's current combat core - were even close to being present for? Are you all still exhibiting repressed feelings of rage over Jhui's guard bashing, even though most of you weren't even there for the act to begin with? Or are you too afraid to admit that you're guard raiding just because you're strong enough to, and this "staff tradition" lets you pretend otherwise? Because it doesn't.

    I'd suggest the next time you guard raid, you do it proudly and explain that it was just for griefing purposes and to impart feelings of rage, despair, impotence, and vengeance onto your victim. That is why I guard raid - and that is why you guard raid, too. The Staff lets you guard raid better. It doesn't give you a better reason to do it than the rest of us. Don't ever say this again.


    You are like the Grinch stealing Christmas. Quit ruining our traditions. :(

    ("Tradition" doesn't mean it's for vengeance though. I think every staff bearer should do it because how often are you strong enough to solo bash full stationary stacks? But if every staff bearer does it... What is that called? It's not meant as a blame game by most of us at least.)
    Lol, step your game up... I can solo guard bash a stack of constables with a single TF and rare minerals....

    I said stationaries! Constables are ez. If you don't know the difference, you should go try one.
  • ProficyProficy Member Posts: 384 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    :(
    You just gave me my next milestone to work for...
    I'll hush till then
    FarrahPuxiAziik
  • RyxRyx Member Posts: 67 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Got to ride on the giant while it moved! That was incredibly memorable.
    CailinSiduriKresslack
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