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Dunn doesn't make mistakes.
Mizik isn't really in a position to judge, since he's seen Dunn a lot more than he's seen me, to be fair.
I have really delved into the bard class a ton, and I bet if you asked a Mhaldorian who has fought Dunn, but been around me fighting a lot more, they'd say I was the best. (And I mean someone who is trying to give an objective opinion, not out of personal bias. Opinions are biased by amount of knowledge of a combatant.) I've only fought Mizik twice, and used force salve both times (and I bet Dunn has done the same against a number of people), whereas I've seen Dunn and Mizik spar tons, and Dunn probably tests all his cool tricks on Mizik.
I don't really know if I'm better than Dunn or not since I've pretty much never seen him fight. But I know that I use leg breaks, head breaks, a multitude of Minuet forces besides force salve, herb stacks, sleeplocks, etc.
I would probably say Tirac was a better infernal than me. His defensive game was on point and while I don't respect him for his 'pick and choose territory, opponents and time' strategy to always have an advantage, his defence was stronger than me. Carmain was easily as good as me on certain days when he was in the right mood, sadly most of the time he wasn't. Rakon and Khalaz were just rage artists who dropped the ball when the red overtook them and could not finish or recover.
Jester was a time in Achaea where combat knowledge wasn't as complete as it was today and I took advantage of that a lot. It also helped that most people did not understand what I did to lock them. Pre-Hierophant and juggling prefarar was pretty funny.
But when I look back, I have ALWAYS sparred Mizik or one of his alts (knowingly and unknowingly) as far as I can remember back to when I had started playing. Our friendly rivalry goes back many, many years and I discovered many things thanks to him.
That one blew my mind.
And @Jarrel bro you never fought you as Infernal. I remember one day @Tanris and I went back to back to back to back losses vs you at Mhaldor arena and us raging. And this was in my lv2 bal Raja SSJ unbeatable Blademaster pre nerf with the 1200 1.6s 50 bleed Compass slashes. Tirac eventually kills you, but takes so long with running around etc, there's no fear factor. Carmain was a defensive fortress that would likewise eventually kill you - very frustrating. Still, no offensive pressure.
You were an offensive nightmare. If the dsl damage didn't kill me, the vivisect/dsb fakeout using one or the other to kill was just all despairing pressure pressure pressure.
I never killed anyone again as a druid after that. I probably wouldn't be able to beat Tirac anyway, Tirac doesn't generally fall for the same trick twice.
I remember fighting pre artied Tanris and riftlocking him in the arena after avoiding using any kelp affs for 5 mins while prepping him and being so proud of it and finishing him off with a freeze pound (took 3 pounds (lol) but the kill message so much worth).
I hate not having the motivation to clean up my system and get into combat again, but I can't get any enjoyment out of learning from the bottom again. Get too easily distracted by indie games that are instant gratification.
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One of the symptoms of an approaching nervous breakdown is the belief that one's work is terribly important
I know I wasn't the greatest at defensive fighting, I had the knowledge but not the patience or the massive ego required to do anything to win (i.e. fighting like that). What we had in common was that we both knew the limitations of our systems and never bothered to fix them, just load up stock, go out, turn it off if things get rough and manual.
One of my (I won't say best but memorable, is appropriate) fights were with Tirac as well, I always thought I would very satisfied to beat him, but it really was not. I vivisected him with a trample off a restoration apply, then he wanted to fight again (after he changed things in his system), I got him with the same thing with leprosy with diadem balance and a lucky falcon off balance. I then declined to fight again, in true Tiracesque fashion, obviously knowing that he won't fall for it again. I never took Tirac for a rager but he has this surprising, passive-aggressiveness that just showed through that day. He even said something along the lines of how he was vivisecting people with these tricks before me, I felt quite obliged (just to be an a-hole) to point out that I was vivisecting people with all sorts of things before he even made his character. He left quite abruptly after that.
The true fun in combat was the clinical dissection of someone's systems, priorities or settings and serpent with illusions was the perfect tool for that. Replacing afflictions by getting illusions to steal that balance like making someone focus instead of giving them impatience so their system does not think they are locked then suddenly impatience pops up right before their focus balance comes back with a venom lock in place, or certain actions like dust bomb to get people to touch tree so I didn't have to give paralysis for locks, the logic required in that momentum based combat that branches into different tactics depending on what your opponent did or cured. I really enjoyed punitively exploiting mistakes.
It was a while before I noticed how much things had changed from the older generations of players and I wonder if it was at this point that my interest started waning, I just couldn't understand why people weren't tracking afflictions/what opponents were eating/curing in their mind anymore or how fluidity in most peoples aliases/macros just weren't there anymore, pre envenoming a large combo onto weapons etc.. I am fairly curious to know where that sort of gung-ho attitude to running into combat without any idea started happening. Was it because of Vadimuses' curing systems? It would be easy to blame him but from the other point of view he also levelled the playing field significantly, making it easier for 'midbies' (i use this word without meaning to offend) to be somewhat useful instead of sitting there not knowing how to cure paralysis. He also made combat SO MUCH more accessible for everyone which gave everyone more enjoyment, is this transition into group combat/griefing as a result of these same people realising that the playing field still isn't level? Is it because of the widespread use of artefacts these days? Who knows? I know I stayed around longer than I really wanted to mostly to prove that I could still hang on as a good combatant while most people my generation just fell by the wayside or came back hunting former glory and failing.
PS Fashion run and shackle/balloon aren't innovative.
I think Jovolo said this earlier, but its worth repeating: Don't get too complicated. Ill repeat that you should practice a lot.
@Jovolo Apostate and Jester pretty much. Apostate isn't exactly in the greatest position so I'm not sure if I really care to keep it. Good for RP though.
Countless people have advised that I do NOT play Jester and I trust that they know what they're talking about... But it's so appealing
but this is off track... If you do wanna chat about that I'd definitely appreciate a message
The only area I can see Aostate being better than Jester is in general group combat with the plethora of kill methods, beckon, shadowstrike, soulspear... but it's not like Jester is bad there. Between Hangedman, Aeon, Mickey, Juggle daggers and Bombs you won't feel useless at all.
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One of the symptoms of an approaching nervous breakdown is the belief that one's work is terribly important
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One of the symptoms of an approaching nervous breakdown is the belief that one's work is terribly important
I remember killing Nitro once with 8 dust bombs and death tarot to win a Rampage. Afterwards I was told because I wasn't using a puppet I wasn't going for a kill.. false sense of security is a key to being a decent Jester