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  • EiredhelEiredhel California

    I just randomly started to wonder, are people planning out possible ceremonies for their transitions? If they are I'd be so excited to go to all of them that aren't scheduled at the same time (given that they are open to the unenemied public). 

    Meow, meow, etc. 
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  • AchimrstAchimrst Nature

    Ooo, ceremonies sound fun. Hope Eleusis has one!

  • KerriaKerria The Red Lioness
    I for one would like the whole "were waiting on the new houses to do ANYTHING" mentality to stop.... Or new houses to hurry up. Currently Kerria is feeling a bit crazy, working on everything at her pace (I have a lot of free time), and doing a ton for people who just seem to think that it's all a waste why do it anyway.

    The again I'm routine driven and probably one of the few who think this.


  • DecanDecan
    These changes have been "up next" since Targossas was formed hense why everyone is like... waiting... waiting... waiting...

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  • AchimrstAchimrst Nature
    Decan said:
    These changes have been "up next" since Targossas was formed hense why everyone is like... waiting... waiting... waiting...

    Better they get it right than make some sloppy duck tape job?

  • DecanDecan
    edited June 2014
    Achimrst said:
    Decan said:
    These changes have been "up next" since Targossas was formed hense why everyone is like... waiting... waiting... waiting...

    Better they get it right than make some sloppy duck tape job?

    I agree, because this is not what a sloppy duct tape job looks like.



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  • VayneVayne Rhode Island

    I wouldn't plan anything ridiculous, but I would far from stop RP plans altogether. If you are having fun doing something, why stop? Especially you busy work type people who enjoy the creation process as much, if not more than the execution. Furthermore, unless you know your House is getting the axe/merged then it is not practical nor sensible to act like it is already.


    KCCO y'all!

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  • KerriaKerria The Red Lioness
    Okay, good, so I'm not quite alone on this.
    Anyone have suggestions on how to approach this in an ig manner, it just like... Blow it off?


  • SherazadSherazad Planef Urth
    @Kerria‌ for people who don't know it ICly, it should be business as usual. If there isn't any official IC announcements yet and you still want to make stuff/events, it might be preferable to focus on your city instead. As @Vayne‌ said though, that shouldn't deter you from doing fun stuff for your house.
    Bleh, work ate my gaming life.
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  • KorbenKorben
    Iocun said:

    That's fair enough, but the issue of the game environment not catering to every single character build will remain just the same. House choices for your class will be slightly wider now, yet house choices for your type of RP will be narrowed down at the same time: e.g. the option of playing a serpent in three types of houses will be opened to me, but the option of playing a character in a monastic house will be gone instead.

    If your class is of foremost important to you, then this change will increase your options. If it isn't, the change will decrease your options, because the overall number of houses per city decreases. It's a question of perspective and of priorities.

    All of this should be amply compensated by the fact that there will be more active people per house, and houses will be aligned with their cities and with each other (maybe this is not a problem in other cities, but it is -the- problem in Hashan). Having a group of like-minded people to play the game with is a huge factor in player retention.

  • IocunIocun

    I agree that larger houses are a positive aspect of the change. I cannot decide whether it outweighs the disadvantages for me, but it's certainly one thing that might help Achaea.

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  • EiredhelEiredhel California

    I'm in the party that bigger isn't always better. You can have the biggest tool in the universe, but if you can't use it then it is rather useless for all those involved. 

    Luckily, we do have the chance to make things great for ourselves while still meeting the terms the Admin want.

    Though... I'm pretty sure it'll be like WW3 up on the forums D:

    Meow, meow, etc. 
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  • AchimrstAchimrst Nature
    Eiredhel said:

    I'm in the party that bigger isn't always better. You can have the biggest tool in the universe, but if you can't use it then it is rather useless for all those involved. 

    Luckily, we do have the chance to make things great for ourselves while still meeting the terms the Admin want.

    Though... I'm pretty sure it'll be like WW3 up on the forums D:

    I like to think big houses lead to big productive cities in the game all working toward a goal. Whether that is true or not remains to be seen but I would like to think that with the houses tied to the cities the people would TRY to work together. 

    Clans are great for smaller scale RP and things IMO.

  • EiredhelEiredhel California
    edited June 2014

    I didn't mean it like that! >.<

    Edit: And we're not talking about Phaestus.

    Meow, meow, etc. 
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  • AchimrstAchimrst Nature
    Eiredhel said:

    I didn't mean it like that! >.<

    Edit: And we're not talking about Phaestus.

    Really now? Maybe I need to hang out with Phaestus more.

  • MorroMorro
    It's not so much how many people you have in a House, but rather how many people you have being -active- in that House (or city!) that makes it fun imho. You can't force people to go out and create engaging RP, but maybe restructuring Houses and cities to have unified purposes will point everyone in the right direction.

    It's going to happen, one way or another. The best we can do is take the opportunity and run with it.
  • SunnySunny

    The sad thing is it was announced to the house with no mention of a timeline. Thus leaving everyone to assume the worst. It should have been handled better in the fact that the house leaders should of known when the change was coming abouts and then either they all waited or told us the date where abouts. Now everyone is in stall mode because they are unsure when the houses will be replaced and so don't want to work hard for nothing. I think there should of been some mention of a date or such...for example In 688 the Cyrenian houses will disband to form a new. Also I think too much time was given between the announce and the change. 3 Irl months is more than enough warning..but a full irl year?

  • JamethielJamethiel Adelaide
    edited June 2014

    No matter how this is handled or what happens, there will be lessons to be learned; I hope when the other cities have their turn, that everyone will have learned from what went well and what went not so well in Cyrene's transition.

    Were I a bookie in real life, I'd open a book where the options were:

    1. It went perfectly;
    2. That there were more things that went well than did not go well;
    3. That there were equal parts that went well as that did not go well;
    4. That there were less parts that went well thane did not go well;
    5. It failed miserably.

    The optimist in me wants to bet for (2) but the optimistic realist says we're easily heading for a (3) and that's going to be the eventuality.

    To be perfectly frank, I wouldn't be surprised if (4) occurs but I doubt we'll get (1) or (5).

    Let me be clear in one thing though: I think the changes themselves are probably necessary and will either become good or at worst facilitate good things like multi-class.

    But I acknowledge there's no easy way to bring something like this in and keep everyone happy and I don't think we should beat ourselves up if we get a (3). But let's try, if we can, not to dial up a (4).

    And whatever lessons Cyrene learns -- good or bad -- let's apply them to the other cities to improve their experiences (yes, even Ashtan :P).

  • SunnySunny

    Yes even them...*cough* Right @Jinsun? Just teasing. Anyways I agree Jamethiel everyone is saying how Targo was the original experiment but seriously they didn't go through half the stuff Cyrene is going to have to go through. It will be an interesting change for an established civilization to start these changes..rather than one just starting up.

  • TectonTecton The Garden of the Gods
    Sunny said:

    The sad thing is it was announced to the house with no mention of a timeline. Thus leaving everyone to assume the worst. It should have been handled better in the fact that the house leaders should of known when the change was coming abouts and then either they all waited or told us the date where abouts. Now everyone is in stall mode because they are unsure when the houses will be replaced and so don't want to work hard for nothing. I think there should of been some mention of a date or such...for example In 688 the Cyrenian houses will disband to form a new. Also I think too much time was given between the announce and the change. 3 Irl months is more than enough warning..but a full irl year?

    It's only an in-game year, not a a real life year :) 

  • MorroMorro

    Fair point, but we're all essentially in the same boat.

  • SunnySunny

    Well the ic year changes things a bit...thanks for that @Tecton. With that in mind I think it was done as well as could be expected and I think for the most part people are just bored waiting for the changes so they can start anew...move on or whatever.

  • SanekSanek
    Sunny said:

    people are just bored waiting for the changes so they can start anew...move on or whatever.

    This part is certainly the case for me. Counting down the days till the deadline

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