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This kind of thing always makes me suspect that somebody discovered an infinite gold bug, honestly.
No, there are just a growing number of people with extremely large gold reserves.
I wouldn't be surprised if there are people with more gold than some cities.
- (Eleusis): Ellodin says, "The Fissure of Echoes is Sarathai's happy place." - With sharp, crackling tones, Kyrra tells you, "The ladies must love you immensely." - (Eleusian Ranger Techs): Savira says, "Most of the hard stuff seem to have this built in code like: If adventurer_hitting_me = "Sarathai" then send("terminate and selfdestruct")." - Makarios says, "Serve well and perish." - Xaden says, "Xaden confirmed scrub 2017."
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This kind of thing always makes me suspect that somebody discovered an infinite gold bug, honestly.
No, there are just a growing number of people with extremely large gold reserves.
I wouldn't be surprised if there are people with more gold than some cities.
Surely not anymore? I know there are more Dragons, but with the cap in place people can't be getting up to the same level of reserves as previously?
I promise you hunting isn't where the gold came from, well, at least how it got into the top 1%'s hands. Not that I'm trying to insult anyone, just that i guarantee they have many avenues, and are very good at making use of those avenues.
Due to the high price of credits, I'm sat on a lot of gold. I refuse to pay over 10k for credits, so I wait until I see credits below the maximum level I'm willing to pay, then grab them. I haven't changed any of my habits, I don't think I've hit the gold cap more than once since it came in, but my gold in is much higher than my gold out because of the credit market.
Tharos, the Announcer of Delos shouts, "It's near the end of the egghunt and I still haven't figured out how to pronounce Clean-dat-hoo."
There was only about 150 credits up for sale when I logged off last night. I have half the gold I did 3 months ago because I've been slowly buying credits, but there just isn't enough of them being put on the market.
There was only about 150 credits up for sale when I logged off last night. I have half the gold I did 3 months ago because I've been slowly buying credits, but there just isn't enough of them being put on the market.
From memory, didn't you mention a couple of weeks back that you had something like 20 million just sitting in banks?
I don't have near that right now, but I have a couple of loans out to people.
- (Eleusis): Ellodin says, "The Fissure of Echoes is Sarathai's happy place." - With sharp, crackling tones, Kyrra tells you, "The ladies must love you immensely." - (Eleusian Ranger Techs): Savira says, "Most of the hard stuff seem to have this built in code like: If adventurer_hitting_me = "Sarathai" then send("terminate and selfdestruct")." - Makarios says, "Serve well and perish." - Xaden says, "Xaden confirmed scrub 2017."
The fact that people are sitting on that much excess gold watching for credit prices to drop is, to me, an indication that ~9500 is a reasonable price. It's a price that's settled around the people who actually buy the credits.
I mean, the main about CFS that keeps coming up on these forums is people with millions of gold complaining about how the CFS prices are so terrible for the game, usually because newbies can't afford credits off the market, as if any of those highrollers would let any amount of "reasonably priced" credits sit on the market for longer than it takes them to type "get gold from pack;credits buy X at Y".
So most of the "Think of the newbies!" stuff rings kind of hollow, because the main beneficiary of reduced CFS prices is not going to be Joe Lowbie who can now buy 10 credits off of the market instead of buying 6, it is going to be John Highroller who can buy 1000+ instead of 'only' 600 or so.
If no-one bought credits over a certain limit, the price would not go above that limit. The reason the credit prices keep increasing is people keep buying them at the higher prices. I'm just refusing to pay over what I consider to be a reasonable price for credits, but will buy them when I see them below that limit.
Tharos, the Announcer of Delos shouts, "It's near the end of the egghunt and I still haven't figured out how to pronounce Clean-dat-hoo."
Right, except that the market is driven by individuals with deep pockets for whom higher prices are not an obstacle, self-evident from prices being as high as they are. If there ever is a "limit", it's not going to be a limit that the average or even wealthy Achaean thinks is unreasonable, it's going to be what the ultra-wealthy think is unreasonable. Thus, the result is exactly what Nazihk said in few words, and what I said with more words in the last gold sink thread.
The credit market is a feature used almost exclusively by upper-class Achaeans, which makes it the equivalent of an Achaean first-world problem. Actual Newbies and low-income Achaeans aren't really affected, they just buy them from House/City, or go straight for lesson packages and Elite memberships.
-- Grounded in but one perspective, what we perceive is an exaggeration of the truth.
Most people don't complain solely about the prices being too high. We complain about the process being too high as a function of the current promotions causing much reduced amounts of credits being available for sale. This has only been an issue since the promotions started to be not credit sale based.
And trust me, you don't want the high rollers buying out the credit market. They have enough gold to keep it empty of credits for a very, very long time. There are people who make my IG wealth look like nothing.
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Rafiel gives a purple ink to you. Rafiel gives a green ink to you. Rafiel gives a group of 3 yellow inks to you. Rafiel frowns in concentration, and a booming voice rings in your head: "Sketch jera on rafiel" You cannot help but obey. You begin sketching a jera rune on Rafiel. With a flourish, you finish sketching a jera rune. You have recovered balance on all limbs. (3.636s) Rafiel frowns in concentration, and a booming voice rings in your head: "Sketch algiz on rafiel" You cannot help but obey. You begin sketching an algiz rune on Rafiel. With a flourish, you finish sketching an algiz rune. You have recovered balance on all limbs. (1.736s) Rafiel frowns in concentration, and a booming voice rings in your head: "Sketch berkana on rafiel" You cannot help but obey. You begin sketching a berkana rune on Rafiel. With a flourish, you finish sketching a berkana rune. You have recovered balance on all limbs. (1.713s) "Thanks!" Rafiel says to you.
I have seen university students fall asleep with both eyes open.
- (Eleusis): Ellodin says, "The Fissure of Echoes is Sarathai's happy place." - With sharp, crackling tones, Kyrra tells you, "The ladies must love you immensely." - (Eleusian Ranger Techs): Savira says, "Most of the hard stuff seem to have this built in code like: If adventurer_hitting_me = "Sarathai" then send("terminate and selfdestruct")." - Makarios says, "Serve well and perish." - Xaden says, "Xaden confirmed scrub 2017."
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I wouldn't be surprised if there are people with more gold than some cities.
- With sharp, crackling tones, Kyrra tells you, "The ladies must love you immensely."
- (Eleusian Ranger Techs): Savira says, "Most of the hard stuff seem to have this built in code like: If adventurer_hitting_me = "Sarathai" then send("terminate and selfdestruct")."
- Makarios says, "Serve well and perish."
- Xaden says, "Xaden confirmed scrub 2017."
I don't have near that right now, but I have a couple of loans out to people.
- With sharp, crackling tones, Kyrra tells you, "The ladies must love you immensely."
- (Eleusian Ranger Techs): Savira says, "Most of the hard stuff seem to have this built in code like: If adventurer_hitting_me = "Sarathai" then send("terminate and selfdestruct")."
- Makarios says, "Serve well and perish."
- Xaden says, "Xaden confirmed scrub 2017."
Would love to be able to buy credits at reasonable prices. Getting them at 9-9.5k should not feel like a good thing.
I mean, the main about CFS that keeps coming up on these forums is people with millions of gold complaining about how the CFS prices are so terrible for the game, usually because newbies can't afford credits off the market, as if any of those highrollers would let any amount of "reasonably priced" credits sit on the market for longer than it takes them to type "get gold from pack;credits buy X at Y".
So most of the "Think of the newbies!" stuff rings kind of hollow, because the main beneficiary of reduced CFS prices is not going to be Joe Lowbie who can now buy 10 credits off of the market instead of buying 6, it is going to be John Highroller who can buy 1000+ instead of 'only' 600 or so.
If no-one bought credits over a certain limit, the price would not go above that limit. The reason the credit prices keep increasing is people keep buying them at the higher prices. I'm just refusing to pay over what I consider to be a reasonable price for credits, but will buy them when I see them below that limit.
The credit market is a feature used almost exclusively by upper-class Achaeans, which makes it the equivalent of an Achaean first-world problem. Actual Newbies and low-income Achaeans aren't really affected, they just buy them from House/City, or go straight for lesson packages and Elite memberships.
And trust me, you don't want the high rollers buying out the credit market. They have enough gold to keep it empty of credits for a very, very long time. There are people who make my IG wealth look like nothing.
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Rafiel gives a purple ink to you.
Rafiel gives a green ink to you.
Rafiel gives a group of 3 yellow inks to you.
Rafiel frowns in concentration, and a booming voice rings in your head: "Sketch jera on rafiel"
You cannot help but obey.
You begin sketching a jera rune on Rafiel.
With a flourish, you finish sketching a jera rune.
You have recovered balance on all limbs. (3.636s)
Rafiel frowns in concentration, and a booming voice rings in your head: "Sketch algiz on rafiel"
You cannot help but obey.
You begin sketching an algiz rune on Rafiel.
With a flourish, you finish sketching an algiz rune.
You have recovered balance on all limbs. (1.736s)
Rafiel frowns in concentration, and a booming voice rings in your head: "Sketch berkana on rafiel"
You cannot help but obey.
You begin sketching a berkana rune on Rafiel.
With a flourish, you finish sketching a berkana rune.
You have recovered balance on all limbs. (1.713s)
"Thanks!" Rafiel says to you.
That lovebird has balls of solid steel.
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- With sharp, crackling tones, Kyrra tells you, "The ladies must love you immensely."
- (Eleusian Ranger Techs): Savira says, "Most of the hard stuff seem to have this built in code like: If adventurer_hitting_me = "Sarathai" then send("terminate and selfdestruct")."
- Makarios says, "Serve well and perish."
- Xaden says, "Xaden confirmed scrub 2017."