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Exelethril · December 2013

Just not really keen on the idea of losing track of limb damage(with illusions) and possibly losing all progress on a parried limb too if an opponent plays super defensively/just running away.

Hayte · December 2013

Latest public post "Our labs are as sterile and efficient as the fine alchemists that utilise them." ...has anyone told those poor alchemists? Some of them had dreams. THEY WANTED FAMILIES DAMN IT

Nemutaur · December 2013

Exelethril said:

Just not really keen on the idea of losing track of limb damage(with illusions) and possibly losing all progress on a parried limb too if an opponent plays super defensively/just running away.

Just build a tempTimer that resets on every limb hit so that you won't fall for the illusion. Something along the lines of:

^you hit some limb trigger pattern$

if rightLegTimer then killTimer(rightLegTimer) end

rightLegTimer = tempTimer(5*60, [[enableTrigger("roomWideResetMessage")]])

Makarios · December 2013

Part of the intent is to give recourse when dealing with limb prep classes abilities to fight very defensively while slowly building prep. It'll definitely require a bit of rethinking about how you prep limbs, but if you're not playing extremely defensively you shouldn't find it something you can't account for.

Nizaris · December 2013

Makarios said:

Part of the intent is to give recourse when dealing with limb prep classes abilities to fight very defensively while slowly building prep. It'll definitely require a bit of rethinking about how you prep limbs, but if you're not playing extremely defensively you shouldn't find it something you can't account for.

I still think that the "slowly" part needs to be looked at, so that everyone becomes, in essence, a momentum-based class. But, I imagine that would take a great many changes -- that are each independently stable -- while slowly observing the effects of those changes, in order to finally reach. In short: a work-in-progress.

Exelethril · December 2013

Makarios said:

Part of the intent is to give recourse when dealing with limb prep classes abilities to fight very defensively while slowly building prep. It'll definitely require a bit of rethinking about how you prep limbs, but if you're not playing extremely defensively you shouldn't find it something you can't account for.

Hrm, I see your point regarding the balance between prep versus momentum classes. A very significant nerf to knights but possible to adapt to with effort.

Also, in that regard, would this affect Puppetry/Vodun as well? Jesters and shamans function the same way in the sense that, they can "hit and run" while playing very defensively.

Iocun · December 2013

Makarios said:

Part of the intent is to give recourse when dealing with limb prep classes abilities to fight very defensively while slowly building prep. It'll definitely require a bit of rethinking about how you prep limbs, but if you're not playing extremely defensively you shouldn't find it something you can't account for.

Yeah. I find it a bit strange that so many of these arguments here seem to imply that it's primarily the limb-attacker's opponent which tends to be the cause for long prepping times, and not the limb attacker's own defensiveness. Yes, limb prepping often does take a long time, but often that's because of deliberately going really slow, because until now, the slower you went as a limb-breaker against a momentum class, the better for you.

I don't think the fear that every limb-breaker's opponent will suddenly fight much more defensively is justified. Either this opponent is a limb-breaker too and will have exactly the same incentive to not break this 5 minute mark, or (s)he is a momentum/affliction class which already relied on keeping up offence. The only difference here are fashioners, who would still gain a lot from being super defensive - but when haven't fashioners been super defensive?

The main issue I see with this change however is the contrast between different limb-breaking classes. Dragons, for instance, can perfectly easily prep within 5 minutes while still staying entirely defensive by enmeshing for every rend, while a knight would have a much harder time. This makes it hard to find a limb reset time that is universally fair and actually does contribute to more offensively-oriented fighting. Not quite sure how this could be best solved.

Anedhel · December 2013

3214h, 3780m, 19001e, 17714w excdbk 22- 16:06:09.275
You move sluggishly into action.

(svo): Slow curing mode enabled.

(svo): (autotsc) - command overrides enabled.
(a) 3214h, 3780m, 19001e, 17714w excdbk 22- 16:06:09.442(sip health)
Your nerves feel suddenly jangled.
(a) 3214h, 3780m, 19001e, 17714w excdbk 22- 16:06:09.450
Terra charges in, sword flashing at the ready.
You writhe and scream as she drives the cruel blade deep into your side.
You scream in pain as the forest of sharpened crystals pierces your body.
You lose purchase on a ruby hydra.
(a) 2338h, 3780m, 19001e, 17714w excdbk 22- 16:06:09.464(-876h, 21.7%)

Timing no amount of practice can buy!

Melodie · December 2013

(svo): (autotsc) - command overrides enabled.

Found your problem!

Anedhel · December 2013

Huh? The bit's about the timestamps, not Svo.

Melodie · December 2013

I know. It was both somewhat of a off-topic joke, and partly pointing out an actual issue.

Santar · December 2013

Yo Melodie, how about you leave my Annie alone, or we going to have a serious problem.

You got it?

Anaidiana · December 2013

Santar · December 2013

Anedhel has stopped his own heart, killing himself instantly in The Gauntlet.

You tell Anedhel Azon, "Annie are you okay."

Anedhel tells you, "No."

Anedhel tells you, "I was struck by a smooth criminal."

Fitz · December 2013