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  • IocunIocun
    Cardan said:
    or they're under the influence of a divine favour
    Or they're under the influence of a spirit.

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  • SidoniaSidonia
    Whew. For a moment I thought I was crazy and had learned to mythical for no reason.
  • KuyKuy
    Woo!  Another round of questions, yay.

    There was a post that detailed the contribution to damage done of int/str/etc.  While it was quite informative, a more subjective question seems to be beneficial to me here.  Considering Magi, what is a good enough threshold of intelligence to get into PK?  I'm very, very interested in hunting, but would like to hold my own.  I'd like to have as much constitution I can squeeze out, but still pack enough of a punch to deal with most enemies.

    With stoneskin and diamondskin, I had thought about trying con specced Horkval, but that leaves my int quite on the low end.  Would it be a shot in the foot for PK?

    What would be the optimal hunting race for a Magi?  Race isn't something I'm too hung up on now, as I can make the RP I have in mind fit for just about all of them.

    What would be the optimal PK race for a Magi?

    Please don't think I'm just rushing to the forums to avoid doing the gruntwork!  I have my own assumptions from the piles of threads and comments I've read, but it's often nice to hear the opinions of more current folk. :)
    [2:41:24 AM] Kenway: I bet you smell like evergreen trees and you could wrestle boreal mammals but they'd rather just cuddle you
  • AtalkezAtalkez
    Kuy said:
    Woo!  Another round of questions, yay.

    There was a post that detailed the contribution to damage done of int/str/etc.  While it was quite informative, a more subjective question seems to be beneficial to me here.  Considering Magi, what is a good enough threshold of intelligence to get into PK?  I'm very, very interested in hunting, but would like to hold my own.  I'd like to have as much constitution I can squeeze out, but still pack enough of a punch to deal with most enemies.

    With stoneskin and diamondskin, I had thought about trying con specced Horkval, but that leaves my int quite on the low end.  Would it be a shot in the foot for PK?

    What would be the optimal hunting race for a Magi?  Race isn't something I'm too hung up on now, as I can make the RP I have in mind fit for just about all of them.

    What would be the optimal PK race for a Magi?

    Please don't think I'm just rushing to the forums to avoid doing the gruntwork!  I have my own assumptions from the piles of threads and comments I've read, but it's often nice to hear the opinions of more current folk. :)
    You changed class again?

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  • KuyKuy
    Atalkez said:
    Kuy said:
    Woo!  Another round of questions, yay.

    There was a post that detailed the contribution to damage done of int/str/etc.  While it was quite informative, a more subjective question seems to be beneficial to me here.  Considering Magi, what is a good enough threshold of intelligence to get into PK?  I'm very, very interested in hunting, but would like to hold my own.  I'd like to have as much constitution I can squeeze out, but still pack enough of a punch to deal with most enemies.

    With stoneskin and diamondskin, I had thought about trying con specced Horkval, but that leaves my int quite on the low end.  Would it be a shot in the foot for PK?

    What would be the optimal hunting race for a Magi?  Race isn't something I'm too hung up on now, as I can make the RP I have in mind fit for just about all of them.

    What would be the optimal PK race for a Magi?

    Please don't think I'm just rushing to the forums to avoid doing the gruntwork!  I have my own assumptions from the piles of threads and comments I've read, but it's often nice to hear the opinions of more current folk. :)
    You changed class again?

    Classh0r <3
    I didn't!  I'm just fiddling around with an alt D:
    [2:41:24 AM] Kenway: I bet you smell like evergreen trees and you could wrestle boreal mammals but they'd rather just cuddle you
  • EldEld
    Woo!  Another round of questions, yay.

    There was a post that detailed the contribution to damage done of int/str/etc.  While it was quite informative, a more subjective question seems to be beneficial to me here.  Considering Magi, what is a good enough threshold of intelligence to get into PK?  I'm very, very interested in hunting, but would like to hold my own.  I'd like to have as much constitution I can squeeze out, but still pack enough of a punch to deal with most enemies.

    With stoneskin and diamondskin, I had thought about trying con specced Horkval, but that leaves my int quite on the low end.  Would it be a shot in the foot for PK?

    What would be the optimal hunting race for a Magi?  Race isn't something I'm too hung up on now, as I can make the RP I have in mind fit for just about all of them.

    What would be the optimal PK race for a Magi?

    Please don't think I'm just rushing to the forums to avoid doing the gruntwork!  I have my own assumptions from the piles of threads and comments I've read, but it's often nice to hear the opinions of more current folk. :)
    My impression is that if you want to actually learn to use your skills, rather than just buying some arties and hitting your staffcast macro, low intelligence probably won't hurt you too much in low- to mid-tier pvp. I think diamondskin scales with int, so you'll lose some tankiness there, but hork resistance would probably make up for it. 
  • KadenKaden
    Your defenses scale with int iirc, yes. But you don't need to max it out all that much if you learn how to fight in retardation. Damage without arties is highly unlikely against people who know what they're doing.
  • RomRom
    I'd definitely go with Int-spec Horkval for leap and armor now that Grook regen got fixed.
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  • EldEld
    Rom said:
    I'd definitely go with Int-spec Horkval for leap and armor now that Grook regen got fixed.
    What's grook regen at now?
  • KuyKuy
    edited November 2013
    Rom said:
    I'd definitely go with Int-spec Horkval for leap and armor now that Grook regen got fixed.
    Would that be a boost to hunting power from con-specced grook?
    [2:41:24 AM] Kenway: I bet you smell like evergreen trees and you could wrestle boreal mammals but they'd rather just cuddle you
  • RomRom
    edited November 2013
    Eld said:
    Rom said:
    I'd definitely go with Int-spec Horkval for leap and armor now that Grook regen got fixed.
    What's grook regen at now?
    Very limited testing has it at 5% hp/mana every 10 seconds versus the old 25% every 10 seconds. I assume it's separate from regen levels still, but I can't test that right now.
    Kuy said:
    Rom said:
    I'd definitely go with Int-spec Horkval for leap and armor now that Grook regen got fixed.
    Would that be a boost to hunting power from con-specced grook?
    Int Horkval = 13 con 13 Int
    Con Grook = 14 con 13 Int

    There's no way to my knowledge that 1 Con is better than Horkval resists (considering Magi cannot wear armor). I would definitely go Horkval. Int trait versus Con trait is up to you.
    Also, Leap is fantastic.

    Edit: Note that I have no idea on how much Diamond/Stone skins scale with Int.
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  • MelodieMelodie Port Saint Lucie, Florida
    Cardan said:


    Santar said:


    Melodie said:

    Can't be mythical, as I know someone with 1,200 lessons in with it.

    So basically, anywhere between 913 and ~1100 or so.

    Ugh. Can't wait for that weaponry overall, a hundred plus credits for four additional abilities makes me weep.

    It's exactly 913 lessons. I know for sure that it's exactly fabled or exactly mythical. I was leaning towards fabled anyways.

    Code says Mythical. If someone has it and hasn't spent the requisite lessons, they're either mistaken on how many lessons they've spent in weaponry, or they're under the influence of a divine favour or some other bonus to their skill levels.

    Late, but thank you for the clarification!

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  • KuyKuy
    Are stoneskin/diamond skin are flat damage reduction, or does it calculate like armour?
    [2:41:24 AM] Kenway: I bet you smell like evergreen trees and you could wrestle boreal mammals but they'd rather just cuddle you
  • SenaSena
    Flat damage reduction, scaling with intelligence (and elementalism skill?).
  • AnedhelAnedhel
    Last I knew, it was armour, which depended on your intelligence score (i.e. higher int, better quality). No idea if that's changed though.
  • SenaSena
    I don't have any logs to confirm it, but I'm pretty sure I remember diamondskin reducing backstab damage, which would mean it has to be damage resistance and not armour.
  • AnedhelAnedhel
    Hasn't it changed a few times? You might be right, I haven't known for sure for a long time now, truth be told.
  • TeshaTesha
    How do you look at army tells history?

     i'm a rebel

  • PenwizePenwize
    Tesha said:
    How do you look at army tells history?
    There isn't one.  It's meant to function mostly like a bigger Party, I think.
  • KuyKuy
    How many lessons into Inkmilling is Canvas?
    [2:41:24 AM] Kenway: I bet you smell like evergreen trees and you could wrestle boreal mammals but they'd rather just cuddle you
  • OceanaOceana North Sea
    So why is (river)fishing with two players in the same room worse than fishing alone (even if fishing in different directions)? Is it latency or something? Processing time?
  • SenaSena
    I've never noticed any difference between fishing alone and fishing with someone else, except for fishing out a room more quickly.
  • SuladanSuladan
    If I steal (or somebody hands over / sells willingly) a Globe of Shifting Continents and I open it and an artefact comes out, would it be mine or the original owner of the Globe's? 

    A better way to state this question is : Can they be bought / sold?
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  • MelodieMelodie Port Saint Lucie, Florida
    When a globe is purchased, it bears the mark of the character it was purchased for. Only that player may open the globe, and globes do reset to you.
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    That love soon might end                                                         You are unbreaking
    And be known in its aching                                                      Though quaking
    Shown in this shaking                                                             Though crazy
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  • WilhelminaWilhelmina
    Kuy said:
    How many lessons into Inkmilling is Canvas?
    71, it seems.
  • KuyKuy
    Wilhelmina said:
    Kuy said:
    How many lessons into Inkmilling is Canvas?
    71, it seems.
    Aye!  I had found that after a more thorough scrounging.  Thank you, though!
    [2:41:24 AM] Kenway: I bet you smell like evergreen trees and you could wrestle boreal mammals but they'd rather just cuddle you
  • CarmellCarmell Eastern Washington
    Kuy said:
    Woo!  Another round of questions, yay.

    There was a post that detailed the contribution to damage done of int/str/etc.  While it was quite informative, a more subjective question seems to be beneficial to me here.  Considering Magi, what is a good enough threshold of intelligence to get into PK?  I'm very, very interested in hunting, but would like to hold my own.  I'd like to have as much constitution I can squeeze out, but still pack enough of a punch to deal with most enemies.

    With stoneskin and diamondskin, I had thought about trying con specced Horkval, but that leaves my int quite on the low end.  Would it be a shot in the foot for PK?

    What would be the optimal hunting race for a Magi?  Race isn't something I'm too hung up on now, as I can make the RP I have in mind fit for just about all of them.

    What would be the optimal PK race for a Magi?

    Please don't think I'm just rushing to the forums to avoid doing the gruntwork!  I have my own assumptions from the piles of threads and comments I've read, but it's often nice to hear the opinions of more current folk. :)
    Having done Horkvali Magi long ago.  I will tell you that you won't be able to really hunt as a magi for any length of time using your staffcast or stormhammer.  Aerith and I both got a bastard sword proficiency and bashed with a bastard sword.  For PvP it's going to leave you at a definite disadvantage.  Stoneskin and Diamondskin both scale with int so they won't be nearly as strong as they were when Aerith and I first did the Horkvali magi thing. 
  • SenaSena
    edited December 2013
    Carmell said:
    Having done Horkvali Magi long ago.  I will tell you that you won't be able to really hunt as a magi for any length of time using your staffcast or stormhammer.  Aerith and I both got a bastard sword proficiency and bashed with a bastard sword.  For PvP it's going to leave you at a definite disadvantage.  Stoneskin and Diamondskin both scale with int so they won't be nearly as strong as they were when Aerith and I first did the Horkvali magi thing. 
    This doesn't really apply now that horkval is only -2 int compared to the high-int races, and str/int doesn't affect damage as much as it used to.

    Edit: A Thoth's Fang would easily beat unartied staffcast for a con-specced horkval though (ignoring the fact that for the price of the fang, you could get a collar and robes/diadem).
  • VenserVenser
    How much increase in endurance and regen rate does trans fitness gives?

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