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Monk Ridiculousness

Atalkez
Atalkez Member, Secret Squirrel Posts: 5,483 @@ - Legendary Achaean
edited November 2013 in North of Thera
How is this fair? :(

Kross says in a clear, commanding voice, "Unpause right after axk combo."
H: 4304 (100%), M: 3380 (100%) 15346w, 20420e 61%
Kross says in a clear, commanding voice, "To start healing."
H: 4304 (100%), M: 3380 (100%) 15346w, 20420e 61%pp;sit
(svo): System paused.
You sit yourself down.
(p) H: 4304 (100%), M: 3380 (100%) 15352w, 20420e 61%say go
You say in a silky, smooth tenor voice, "Go."
(p) H: 4304 (100%), M: 3380 (100%) 15352w, 20420e 61%
Kross kicks his leg high and scythes downwards at you.
He connects to the head!
Your mind feels suddenly dulled and slow.
Kross launches a powerful uppercut at you.
He connects to the head!
Kross launches a powerful uppercut at you.
He connects to the head!

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|     AFFLICTED W/ MILDCONCUSSION | AFFLICTED W/ MILDCONCUSSION     |
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(p) H: 421 (9%), M: 3380 (100%) 15358w, 20420e 61%(-3883h, 90.2%) pp
(svo): System unpaused.
(focus|apply restoration to head|sip health|stand|eat potash|outr potash)
You fall to your knees in worship.

Telling me in one combo, I get 91% of my health eaten?
This is without any combos prior, no torso damage.

In-sa-ne

Edit: Artieashuranmonk!

Deucalion has cowardly declined the challenge of Atalkez to engage in mortal combat.

You hug Aurora compassionately.
Averi
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Comments

  • Atalkez
    Atalkez Member, Secret Squirrel Posts: 5,483 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Artieashuranmonk Ridiculousness didnt quite have the same ring.

    Sorry

    Deucalion has cowardly declined the challenge of Atalkez to engage in mortal combat.

    You hug Aurora compassionately.
    FenAveri
  • Sidonia
    Sidonia Member Posts: 408 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Welcome to Bard?
    Averi
  • Tvistor
    Tvistor Member Posts: 2,900 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Just change to monk, now you're even, congrats.
    CaoimhaenAveriGyrth
  • Blujixapug
    Blujixapug Member Posts: 1,833 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    AXK is pretty ridiculous. In theory its long balance cost is the tradeoff for its high damage, but in reality who cares about being off balance when your opponent is dead because you just one-shot them from 70%. It was nerfed at some point - it used to be worse, it was a running joke - but who knows. Parry head, artie out, don't fight Ashura.
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  • Nemutaur
    Nemutaur GermanyMember Posts: 1,068
    Well don't parry head....axk can't be done if you're not prone and then parry doesn't work. Parry a leg or something please.
    CaoimhaenAntidasAveri
  • Thaumas
    Thaumas Member Posts: 432 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    How much health did you have after health sip and moss/potash?
    How much from kick and how much from punches? What level knuckles and strength?
    If you're into combat, you should be much higher than level 77. Thread belongs to rants.
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    Caoimhaen
  • Xli
    Xli Member Posts: 354 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    edited November 2013
    Another thread bemoaning Ashuran monks?

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    Hiroma tells you, "I just got to listen to someone complain about your deadly axekick being the bane of their existence."
    Archdragon Mizik Corten, Herald of Ruin says, "Man, that was a big axk."
    Hellrazor Cain de Soulis, Sartan's Hammer says, "Your [sic] a beast."
    DaslinNemutaurTrevize
  • Seftin
    Seftin Member Posts: 923 @ - Epic Achaean
    @xli i love you for posting a fresh meat image.
  • Xli
    Xli Member Posts: 354 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    edited November 2013
    id:
    @xli i love you for posting a fresh meat image.
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    Hiroma tells you, "I just got to listen to someone complain about your deadly axekick being the bane of their existence."
    Archdragon Mizik Corten, Herald of Ruin says, "Man, that was a big axk."
    Hellrazor Cain de Soulis, Sartan's Hammer says, "Your [sic] a beast."
  • Blujixapug
    Blujixapug Member Posts: 1,833 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Nemutaur said:
    Well don't parry head....axk can't be done if you're not prone and then parry doesn't work. Parry a leg or something please.
    it is possible that I don't know what I'm talking about.
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    NemutaurTrevizeAveri
  • Cynlael
    Cynlael Member Posts: 3,257 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Aren't you a blademaster or something?

  • Exelethril
    Exelethril Member Posts: 3,360 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited November 2013
    I think the blunt Icon tuning grants too much "power" relative to all other forms of tuning in a monk House. I mean, if an Icon granted disembowels/dsls 15% more damage, that will make surviving against artied knights almost mechanically impossible - which is the case here for artied monks with a blunt Icon.

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  • Nemutaur
    Nemutaur GermanyMember Posts: 1,068
    I think the blunt Icon tuning grants too much "power" relative to all other forms of tuning in a monk House. I mean, if an Icon granted disembowels/dsls 15% more damage, that will make surviving against artied knights almost mechanically impossible - which is the case here for artied monks with a blunt Icon.
    There are no other tunings, get that nonsense out of your head. Blunt or bust.
  • Jovolo
    Jovolo Member Posts: 3,339 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Niraaeth said:

    That's not a particularly accurate title for this topic. I'll post a log later, but my AXK will never do even remotely close to that damage. Heck, I had several people tank 3 BBTs in a row with level 2 torso damage, so don't go generalizing like that. :(

    That's a Monk with Strength arties and blunt Icon, not a simple Monk.

    Can you post a log of the people surviving three BBT's in a row with level two torso damage?

    It's classleads man, don't be complaining until aftet they've been released and Monk is still broken.
    Asmodron
  • Nemutaur
    Nemutaur GermanyMember Posts: 1,068
    Jovolo said:
    That's not a particularly accurate title for this topic. I'll post a log later, but my AXK will never do even remotely close to that damage. Heck, I had several people tank 3 BBTs in a row with level 2 torso damage, so don't go generalizing like that. :(

    That's a Monk with Strength arties and blunt Icon, not a simple Monk.
    Can you post a log of the people surviving three BBT's in a row with level two torso damage? It's classleads man, don't be complaining until aftet they've been released and Monk is still broken.
    The different between level one and level two torso damage bbt's is really tiny, so I can imagine someone surviving it with Mir and Algiz or beastly fullplate, algiz, two shields and a monk with 14 or less strength.

    Or maybe it's a grook with 11 strength, there you just need to croak harder and mash that mind crush.
    Daslin
  • Santar
    Santar Member, Secret Squirrel Posts: 2,482 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    If you're a monk and don't have at least 15 strength, then you have no right to complain about balance whatsoever.

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    Fen
  • Daslin
    Daslin The place with the oxygenMember Posts: 2,492 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Okay, now I change what I said. @Hasar, I'm with you.
  • Nemutaur
    Nemutaur GermanyMember Posts: 1,068
    Hasar said:
    I think AXK should crit.

    WHO'S WITH ME.
    It does, just not on adventurers. I hunt cats in Bopalopia with axk.
    Daslin[Deleted User]Averi
  • Xli
    Xli Member Posts: 354 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Santar said:
    If you're a monk and don't have at least 15 strength, then you have no right to complain about balance whatsoever.
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    Hiroma tells you, "I just got to listen to someone complain about your deadly axekick being the bane of their existence."
    Archdragon Mizik Corten, Herald of Ruin says, "Man, that was a big axk."
    Hellrazor Cain de Soulis, Sartan's Hammer says, "Your [sic] a beast."
  • Strata
    Strata United States of DerpMember Posts: 1,753 @ - Epic Achaean
    Is this another veil thread? Let's talk about tremolo and force armour remove. Ashuran monks are fair because that's what's needed to go up against botnets.
  • Santar
    Santar Member, Secret Squirrel Posts: 2,482 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited November 2013
    15 strength isn't even completely min maxed for unartied monk. Unartied monk can go up to 18. 


    If you're not speccing your stat, then why should you expect to do a lot of damage? Be like a Serpent not speccing with the new dex change and then complaining dstab too slow.
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  • Nemutaur
    Nemutaur GermanyMember Posts: 1,068
    At best @Niraaeth has 14 Strength as an Atavian with the racial traits and the major trait. That's without runes, against a tanky target with a sip ring I can see them surviving 3 bbt's. But with a Con spec for example that's 11-12 strength.
  • Exelethril
    Exelethril Member Posts: 3,360 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Still.. that sort of damage in team fights based off being prone does 30-40% more damage than Bite in Dragonform(assuming it's 50%) does. Then again, I'm not sure what sort of armour/damage mitigation Atalkez had. 

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  • Nemutaur
    Nemutaur GermanyMember Posts: 1,068
    Still.. that sort of damage in team fights based off being prone does 30-40% more damage than Bite in Dragonform(assuming it's 50%) does. Then again, I'm not sure what sort of armour/damage mitigation Atalkez had. 
    Yeah but bite ignores armour though and doesn't scale at all with a broken torso or any strength changing arties you have. The only thing bite doesn't ignore is damage shields like Mir, scales, algiz, HF/TF etc.
  • Kuy
    Kuy Member Posts: 1,497 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    [2:41:24 AM] Kenway: I bet you smell like evergreen trees and you could wrestle boreal mammals but they'd rather just cuddle you
    Skye
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