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Also, falling from the sky deals blunt damage, 200 + 33% of max health. This is useful for testing things because it can be done completely by yourself, and the room in Nuskuwe that throws you out into the Granite Hills lets you fall even if you can't fly on your own.
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Your bug report (detail: algiz gives the same (10%) damage reduction for both runelorists and non-runelorists, despite announce 3587 saying that it was reduced for non-runelorists.) - has been removed because it is not a bug (usually meaning that this is the way things are intended to be). Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience or misunderstanding that may be involved. The following notes were included: It is the same reduction if that's your only defence, but algiz stacks differently with other defences for non-runelore users than it does for runelore users.
I'm somewhat confused on this, since it doesn't seem consistent with previous changes to resistance stacking.
Going by the announced changes though:
Back in 2006 (announce 2226), algiz and other defences that can be given to people of any class were changed so that they stack differently (multiplicatively after other defences, which mostly stacked additively) as non-class defences. So algiz was made less effective for non-runelorists, even though it still gave 10% resistance.
Then in 2007 (announce 2681), nearly every defence, regardless of class, was changed to stack multiplicatively. Presumably, this made algiz for runelorists and non-runelorists equal again, because it no longer stacked additively with other resistances for runelorists.
Now, apparently algiz was somehow changed to stack in a way that results in less resistance than stacking multiplicatively. I can't think of how that might have been done, though. Unless there were unannounced changes to resistance stacking, so it wasn't already stacking multiplicatively.
I plan on testing algiz and other resistance stacking when I get a chance, to see how it actually works now.
already ablaze.
The flame-wreathed blade further scorches your flesh.
On a drawslash that was doing 740 to me fire infused but not ablaze (max health 5287, trans thermology, no other fire resistances), the extra damage boosted it to 837 sometimes and 1137 other times. So that's on the order of 20% or 50% of the normal damage, or an extra 2.5% or 7.5% of my max health. Will test a little more when I get a chance.
With a bit more testing, I think the 837 hits on those tests may have been when I caught a boar tick. Testing with balanceslashing myself off rebounding, normal fire infused damage with 5287 health was 452, with the extra damage was 849 (so 397 extra damage, same as in the other test). With 5596 max health, still 452 base, 873 with the extra (so 421 extra, still around 7.5% of my max, but not as exact). Would be worth testing on someone without Thermology, though.
The idea I've come up with so far is to figure out, as accurately as I can, the max hp of some set of denizens, then take the trait, and track crits per kill over a reasonable sample of kills, and do some sort of least-squares fit (or whatever ends up making the most sense, haven't thought too hard about that part yet) to find that parameter a. Currently, I'm attempting to determine hp of denizens by counting hits to kill one of each of them, with various combinations of strength, stance, and band, which seems to be sufficient to determine it within around 100 points.
So my questions are:
Does anyone see a problem with this method, other than the tedium, or have a better idea?
Does anyone have suggestions for better ways to determine denizen health?
Does anyone have suggestions for ways to extract an estimate of a from the data described?
Finding max health to within 100 points can be done easily (if it's static) by killing the denizen once (unless you finish them with a crit) as a sentinel/serpent with scratch/sumac (100 damage attacks that can't miss). I can't think of any weaker attacks that won't miss constantly. Edit: Weariness might reduce scratch to 70 damage. Not sure if it has any effect on damage against denizens.
If you look at more than just average damage, that pushes it even further in favour of lucky. For the strongest criticals (which is where Aim to Kill makes the biggest difference), increased damage is often pointless because it will likely do enough damage to finish whatever you're attacking without the bonus. And if you're fighting something really strong that will survive 16x or 32x damage, you'll probably want more frequent criticals rather than slightly boosted critical damage.
There are very specific cases where Aim to Kill is significantly better, but only when your attack damage and the denizen's health matches up just right and you have a good crit rate, so the damage bonus lets you frequently kill something one hit faster. That's too situational to take up a major trait slot for though, when Lucky is always useful.
Somewhat surprisingly, though, aim to kill seems to win on average above about level 80, with about twice the effect at 99. But that's assuming a random distribution of target healths to do the average. Since you'll usually tend to kill a lot of the same things, and most things probably won't have max health right in the sweet spot for aim to kill, you may have to average over a very long time of bashing a wide variety of places to see that average benefit.
Here are a couple plots to illustrate (because everyone likes plots, right?).
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This one shows the effects of the two as a function of target health/attack damage, assuming level 99 with no other crit bonuses.
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And here are the effects as a function of level. For this one, the target health used for each kill is drawn from a uniform distribution on [4,20) (again, in units of attack damage), which should do a decent job of averaging over the spikes seen in the previous plot. I might make a version of this one with a larger sample a bit later and see if smaller error bars bring out anything more useful.
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Impressive simulations, slightly off topic but a simple yes/no from an intelligent Achaean will suffice.
Does increases in the skill weaponry adversely affect the to hit/speed/damage percentages on attacks like dstab and garrote?
Did not want to make a separate thread for this.
I appreciate the response
And by the way, there are also the Quick Questions and Quick Combat Questions threads for things like that.
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