Combat Logs

Rom

Misc.

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* Dementia, Paranoia, and Hallucination afflictions are now focusable afflictions.

This change from April should make early impatience prio swapping pretty effective. If you don't have access to prepping then I'm not sure how viable it is to stall your offense like that but it's better than dying I guess. More passive procs means more focus fodder though, since you used to have to wait until next balance to be able to order your summoned ent to be aggressive.

Used to be that whichever entity you were spamming (usually butterfly) would hardly ever get passives off since every time you enraged it you would reset its aggression and it wouldn't get any chances at swinging. Could potentially change it so that they auto-aggressive when you recover eqbal instead of immediately in order to make it simply a quality of life change (it it's currently a problem).

Edit: Also dismember is way cooler. I'm pretty convinced you shouldn't be able to prep limbs with doublestrike too, seems like pushing too many avenues at once even if it opens you up to parry.

Lyrin

Here's a summary of pet afflictions:

Pet              Passive             Active

Wolf           ~5% cutting       hallucinations

Fox            ~2% cutting       healthleech

Lemming    confusion         rebounding->shield->random def strip

Raven         paranoia           undeaf->sensitivity

Butterfly      stupidity          unblind->dizzy (transfix if prone)

badger        ~30 bleed        vomiting + 100bleed

All the pets' passives seem to tick at the same rate.    There is wide variation in time between ticks for a pet, sometimes ~20 seconds between ticks for a single pet, sometimes you'll see multiple from the same pet in a 5 second window.    Pet A seems to tick completely indpendantly of pet B so if they both decide to tick frequently things can get pretty crazy.   

I haven't spent the time necessary to characterise their tick interval or %chance to proc more accurately than this.

Since the change which allows pets to be summoned aggro, there seems to be more situations where someone will get screwed by pet passives.    The chance to get passive confu + stupidity, on top of the baseline chance to get screwed by curing order (i.e. tree/gseal not hitting impatience followed by failure to hinder/turtle which is the prime route to petrify), means that things have got a bit out of hand.   Before the change, if enraging on every attack, you would only ever have one pet ticking passively.

I belive the change was intended as a QOL thing to simplify pet management.    One option would be to simply revert the change, the other that would keep the simplified pet management would be to have a single pet proc rate and when it fires either uses pet A (if aggro) or pet B (if aggro).

Ahmet

@Lyrin Lemming strips rebounding before shield? Thought it was the other way around. Weird.

Lyrin

Yep, just checked a log from earlier today with @Farrah.    If someone has rebounding and shield, the lemming will strip rebounding.

Rangor

The classlead also asked to visit the proc rate and rng of passive hits. which wasn't done.

Makarios

Rangor said:

The classlead also asked to visit the proc rate and rng of passive hits. which wasn't done.

The rate was slowed down. Whether by enough I think its still too early to tell.

Rangor

Makarios said:

Rangor said:

The classlead also asked to visit the proc rate and rng of passive hits. which wasn't done.

The rate was slowed down. Whether by enough I think its still too early to tell.

Aha. Thanks for clarification. Hard to see/test with the rng.

Lyrin

I shall engage in some systematic pet abuse and see if I can figure out the proc rates & timings...

Atalkez

https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/-GyqMpa8

Clutch

Puxi

Stop targeting me.

Jhui

Atalkez said:

https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/-GyqMpa8

Clutch

thought you couldn't blow tank if citizen was in the room?

Morthif

Jhui said:

Atalkez said:

https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/-GyqMpa8

Clutch

thought you couldn't blow tank if citizen was in the room?

Needs to be soldier 

Jhui

Morthif said:

Jhui said:

Atalkez said:

https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/-GyqMpa8

Clutch

thought you couldn't blow tank if citizen was in the room?

Needs to be soldier 

maybe @Khel got inducted after the raid

Khel

I wasn't army until after the raid, think that was the issue.

Achilles

Doesn't that make @melodie the opposite of clutch?  

Vender

so i started my system kind of from scratch and got away from using svof because i wanted to multiclass with magi and also because i wanted to learn how to do manual offense from the ground up.

here is a log of me fighting yzarin, who unfortunately did not have fist sigils so I guess couldn't wield her weapons or something. magi is a lot of fun so far.

https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/RKjUNmLa

Rangor

Vender said:

so i started my system kind of from scratch and got away from using svof because i wanted to multiclass with magi and also because i wanted to learn how to do manual offense from the ground up.

here is a log of me fighting yzarin, who unfortunately did not have fist sigils so I guess couldn't wield her weapons or something. magi is a lot of fun so far.

https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/RKjUNmLa

My only comment to the log, that jumped out at me, is that while JANE is good for debugging, JANE is creating a lot of spam that you may not need to see.

Vender

double post. me vs invictus

https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/BLD4nxgs

edit: @Rangor yes, you're quite right. the system is still in early stages while I work out everything and I'm only now working on general highlights and gags.

Aegoth

I can toss you my setup if you want. It's helped many a magi become great

Klendathu

Aegoth said:

I can toss you my setup if you want. It's helped many a magi become great

F1 : Holocaust
F2 : Holocaust
F3 : Holocaust
...
F11: Holocaust
F12: Holocaust

Lyrin

I see Aegoth using a holocaust setup more like this:  

Achilles

^ no, that's kai choke aka monk combat circa 2012

Van

Achilles said:

^ no, that's kai choke aka monk combat circa 2012

I believe Cain's first 6 F buttons were macros for:

CT KAI ME
HT KAI ME
PT KAI ME
SAY KAI ME
YELL KAI ME
SHOUT KAI ME

Ryzeth

Me vs Vender.
Dw vs Magi.

His prios were a bit wonky there, but still fun. One before was considerably more over the place

Devran

Lyrin said:

I see Aegoth using a holocaust setup more like this:  

You found a picture of me ordering pizza. 

Sobriquet

Ryzeth said:

Me vs Vender.
Dw vs Magi.

His prios were a bit wonky there, but still fun. One before was considerably more over the place

I've zero knowledge of the new class, but this intrigued me:

As you push your aeonic might beyond its limits, you feel yourself grow older.
You have now aged yourself by 500 years

What is that?

Mathilda

The new class has a skill that uses age as a resource. Think of it as...reverse-mana. Depthswalkers can only age themselves up to a certain number of years (determined by dexterity), so they have to manage their usage of those abilities. Age drops back down over time (lol), plus a few active abilities to burst-drop it.

Vender

so after sethra kindly explained how magi breakpoints work, i think I've finally got the golem pummel routine down in good fashion.

here is me vs. Jadys

https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/WlTM0Euq

next i want to work on the destroy route, anyone have any good suggestions on that?

Dunn

Break point is 6.6 with every strike but air being 1 and air being .6. 

Double leg, get pre dehydrate if you can (just need them to have 1 flame stack and you can air/dehydrate). Always have inferno and effreeti up. Strike scorch after break, conflagration at two flame stacks, keep scorching, destroy at five or whenever you feel they're low enough to die (destroy threshold lowers as their health is lower). 

Ill probably regret telling you this but fuck it you're a good sport 

Aegoth

I usually destroy this way: prep a leg with inferno/efreeti up. get dehydrate before the break with air/dehy as you go. Once you get dehydrate, switch to scorch. air/scorch to break, then scorch a few times by itself when you see leg apply. This -should- get them to 5 burns, and they'll still be off salve balance.