And I love too Be still, my indelible friend That love soon might end You are unbreaking And be known in its aching Though quaking Shown in this shaking Though crazy Lately of my wasteland, baby That's just wasteland, baby
Bard is insanely fast if you know how to use it. Alchemist could use adjusting , too . If classleads land and Alchie doesn't get nerfed I'm multiclassing it just to enjoy bleeding people for 2500. It's gonna be aurible.
Bard is insanely fast if you know how to use it. Alchemist could use adjusting , too . If classleads land and Alchie doesn't get nerfed I'm multiclassing it just to enjoy bleeding people for 2500. It's gonna be aurible.
Lol aurible.
And Jovolo, they can freely hard lock people with minimal set up (having full access to gecko, slike, kalmia, curare, and impatience). Being able to force apply restoration is dumb when they can afflict so fast.
And Jovolo, they can freely hard lock people with minimal set up (having full access to gecko, slike, kalmia, curare, and impatience). Being able to force apply restoration is dumb when they can afflict so fast.
Why is it dumb?
Do you have no counters? No preventative measures?
And Jovolo, they can freely hard lock people with minimal set up (having full access to gecko, slike, kalmia, curare, and impatience). Being able to force apply restoration is dumb when they can afflict so fast.
Why is it dumb?
Do you have no counters? No preventative measures?
You do!
Same could have been said about soulmaster before the nerf. Here's my vote: no balance free command abilities!
And Jovolo, they can freely hard lock people with minimal set up (having full access to gecko, slike, kalmia, curare, and impatience). Being able to force apply restoration is dumb when they can afflict so fast.
Why is it dumb?
Do you have no counters? No preventative measures?
You do!
Same could have been said about soulmaster before the nerf. Here's my vote: no balance free command abilities!
And Jovolo, they can freely hard lock people with minimal set up (having full access to gecko, slike, kalmia, curare, and impatience). Being able to force apply restoration is dumb when they can afflict so fast.
Why is it dumb?
Do you have no counters? No preventative measures?
You do!
Same could have been said about soulmaster before the nerf. Here's my vote: no balance free command abilities!
Occultist already had and still have a balanceless force ability. Now they just have one instead of two.
Hierophant only works one time and has very obvious cues to when they're about to use it. They have to throw the card, then they have to strip deafness, -then- they can force. It's balanceless force, yes, but it's not on-demand force.
Balanceless on-demand force is what's OP. Same reason Serpent force isn't OP, is because it requires a prep up and requires the Serpent to waste their hypno prep specifically to do that. Not to mention that it goes off on a delayed timer. Bards just lay one harm at the start of a fight and then they can just spam minuet however they like for the rest of the fight, no strings attached.
Forces can be either balanceless, or forces can be on-demand. Not both without it being overpowered.
Umm. Bard has like none of Jester's escape abilities. I don't really consider somersault and backflip escape abilities.
Jester has balloons, hermit, universe, puppet travel. Would kill for just one of those.
Also, I think there's a misconception about bard's affliction rate. Bard does not afflict "fast." At all. It can lock fast with Minuet, yes. But it doesn't have a fast affliction rate. It's rather slow.
Heirophant is essentially like Minuet, other than the short Minuet cooldown that allows it to be used more than once, so balanceless forcing has existed for quite a while, even since soulmaster nerf.
Minuet is definitely a strong ability, but bard would not be "fine" if Minuet ordering had an eq cost. It would lack any sort of "wow" ability that every other class possesses and would be essentially worse than serpent in every way imaginable.
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the blank jabs explain a lot...need to fix
In my prompt, Mhaldor is green. Eleusis got stuck with purple.Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
It just feels so wrong.
That love soon might end You are unbreaking
And be known in its aching Though quaking
Shown in this shaking Though crazy
Lately of my wasteland, baby That's just wasteland, baby
Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/e50fa8ad
That's how you color cities.
https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/497f4a7f pfft..
Bard style = run head first into x amount of people (substitute x for any number you can possibly think of) and just go ham?
Terra is going to get bard nerfed. Give alchemist a go!
Minuet needs a serious looking-at.
Haha you don't even -need- evade. You have most of my Jesterly escape skills!
Most.
Minuet could use a equilibrium cost
no
Ya dude. Being undeaf is just not enough with their afflicting potential.
Why?
Bard is insanely fast if you know how to use it. Alchemist could use adjusting , too . If classleads land and Alchie doesn't get nerfed I'm multiclassing it just to enjoy bleeding people for 2500. It's gonna be aurible.
Lol aurible.
And Jovolo, they can freely hard lock people with minimal set up (having full access to gecko, slike, kalmia, curare, and impatience). Being able to force apply restoration is dumb when they can afflict so fast.
Here's my idea: Songwind!
Also, my death performance for Eloru:
Blood begins to slowly drip from Eloru's nose.
5145h, 4465m cexkdb-
You say in an oddly feminine voice, "First things first, I'm the realest. Drop this and let the whole world feel it."
5145h, 4465m cekdb-
Eloru suddenly starts scratching at an itch like mad.
5145h, 4465m cekdb-
Eloru coughs suddenly, expelling black fluid with bits of what looks to be tissue suspended in it.
5145h, 4515m cexkdb-
You say in an oddly feminine voice, "And I'm still in the murder business, I could hold you doooown like I'm giving lessons in physics."
5145h, 4515m cexkdb-
Eloru suddenly starts scratching at an itch like mad.
5145h, 4465m cekdb-
Eloru trembles slightly as a yellow jaundice begins to creep through her now-pale features.
Eloru suddenly starts scratching at an itch like mad.
5145h, 4465m cexkdb-
You say in an oddly feminine voice, "You should want a bad bitch like this. Drop it low and pick it up just like this."
5145h, 4465m cexkdb-
You have emoted: Talysin drops into a deep squat, demonstrating agile choreography.
5145h, 4465m cexkdb-
You watch in horror as blood begins to seep from every pore in Eloru's body.
5145h, 4515m cexkdb-
You say in an oddly feminine voice, "I'm so Taly. You already know."
5145h, 4515m cexkdb-
You smirk.
5145h, 4515m cexkdb-
Eloru begins to convulse, and as her mouth opens in a silent scream, you hear a loud snapping as her back shatters from the sheer force of the spasms.
You have slain Eloru.
A starburst tattoo flares and bathes Eloru in red light.
Cute. Not enough tentacles
Why is it dumb?
Do you have no counters? No preventative measures?
You do!
Same could have been said about soulmaster before the nerf. Here's my vote: no balance free command abilities!
All command abilities balance free. FTFY.
Do Santar and I agree? Shut.Down.Everything.
Occultist already had and still have a balanceless force ability. Now they just have one instead of two.
Hierophant only works one time and has very obvious cues to when they're about to use it. They have to throw the card, then they have to strip deafness, -then- they can force. It's balanceless force, yes, but it's not on-demand force.
Balanceless on-demand force is what's OP. Same reason Serpent force isn't OP, is because it requires a prep up and requires the Serpent to waste their hypno prep specifically to do that. Not to mention that it goes off on a delayed timer. Bards just lay one harm at the start of a fight and then they can just spam minuet however they like for the rest of the fight, no strings attached.
Forces can be either balanceless, or forces can be on-demand. Not both without it being overpowered.
Umm. Bard has like none of Jester's escape abilities. I don't really consider somersault and backflip escape abilities.
Jester has balloons, hermit, universe, puppet travel. Would kill for just one of those.
Also, I think there's a misconception about bard's affliction rate. Bard does not afflict "fast." At all. It can lock fast with Minuet, yes. But it doesn't have a fast affliction rate. It's rather slow.
Heirophant is essentially like Minuet, other than the short Minuet cooldown that allows it to be used more than once, so balanceless forcing has existed for quite a while, even since soulmaster nerf.
Minuet is definitely a strong ability, but bard would not be "fine" if Minuet ordering had an eq cost. It would lack any sort of "wow" ability that every other class possesses and would be essentially worse than serpent in every way imaginable.
oh what I mean is I wish that I could make them do things while the victim is off balance like put pipes up or do other things