Calm down, boys. Here, have the only thing I could really dig up.
I don't have any actual combat logs I've saved from recent, but here's a log of me getting jumped and barely managing to gtfo. Nothing but basic defs up, no virdian, etc.
Shouldn't fool cards when needed completely shut down -every- affliction class?
It's like a super omega alleviate.
No... Trying to outd charge and flying when you get stunned stupified and impatience on the first balance there is no easy fooling out of that. Fool is really slow recovery.
Jumps me in Annwyn, I smash seven shades of shit out of him and he explodes. Then I troll him all over the world to the beat of:
Nicely packaged story Miz, but not complete....
As for jumping: I came to your room, waited for you to finish the Sidhe. And even told you this. You then commenced the beating, and killed me. That's cool. No complaints on my side... but then you figure let's take this further and chase me wherever you see me on prime?
Sent by Eleison
7/04/9:24 I wonder how long it will take you to get bored! Going to read some news!
Come now Mizik, some context. That message? You were propping a totem outside of Nirvana. There is one exit out. I'm not going to walk into a totem. That's not so smart. Was just an OOC indication I wouldn't be coming out soon. I thought it better than silence, and I can't send tells from Nirvana as it's cut off.
Eleison flickers briefly and is gone.
Eleison flickers briefly and is gone.
Eleison flickers briefly and is gone.
Eleison flickers briefly and is gone.
Eleison flickers briefly and is gone.
Eleison flickers briefly and is gone.
Eleison flickers briefly and is gone.
Me fleeing to Nirvana multiple times over a fight that lasted an hour perhaps? Because you had stonewalled every conceivable exit I could take. If I tumbled, you just braziered back, and I didn't feel like being locked in to one room against you sketching + full damage. I came right back out and fought immediately (when you weren't toteming) and kept fighting. Not sure what the complaint is here. Refuge is like 10 seconds... it's the slowest fleeing skill around. You see a message when it initiates. You know what's going on. You can choose not to follow me from that point on... or not to put walls up. Whatever works.
You also seem to forget jumping me and a hunting mate, for no apparent reason, a few months back with another Ashtani in the Quisalis. Hence my desire to try and fight you in Annwyn to settle the score.
With all due respect, your position of strength in Ashtan has made you arrogant. You attack without reason, and feel it your right to slay whoever you please, whenever you please, without any rationale. And then complain when someone does not wish to engage with you on your terms. So it goes.
(D.M.A.): Cooper says, "Kyrra is either the most innocent person in the world, or the girl who uses the most innuendo seemingly unintentionally but really on purpose."
https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/dc9e64d6 I hate trying to spend 75% of a fight working around rebound against affliction heavy classes, I just kind of gave up near the end since I couldn't do it at all. Sometimes it really makes me wanna class change to something like Magi just not fun in the slightest.
Rebounding is frustrating for new combatants, but there are plenty of ways to deal with it. You already have an echo that says rebounding coming in 9 seconds. Make a tempTimer that tells you when it's almost up, and then use curare jabs when you see that echo, while saving voice balance. Then cantata/curare when it comes up and go on with your stuff.
Alternatively, you can time your attacks around rebounding better. Start immediately when it goes down and lock before it comes up.
Or a mix of the two. Stick a few affs (or just waste tree tatt) before rebounding comes up, cantata/curare, then go for lock before it comes up again.
Edit: Basically, you just need to learn to consciously plan your offense around rebounding rather than just ignoring its existence, going for an affliction stack, and then being surprised when it pops up, hitting it like WTF IS THIS, and then going back to doing the same thing again. And I'm not trying to be demeaning with this comment. I just think a lot of newer afflicters have this kind of mentality. Probably me too way back when.
Jumps me in Annwyn, I smash seven shades of shit out of him and he explodes. Then I troll him all over the world to the beat of:
Nicely packaged story Miz, but not complete....
As for jumping: I came to your room, waited for you to finish the Sidhe. And even told you this. You then commenced the beating, and killed me. That's cool. No complaints on my side... but then you figure let's take this further and chase me wherever you see me on prime?
Sent by Eleison
7/04/9:24 I wonder how long it will take you to get bored! Going to read some news!
Come now Mizik, some context. That message? You were propping a totem outside of Nirvana. There is one exit out. I'm not going to walk into a totem. That's not so smart. Was just an OOC indication I wouldn't be coming out soon. I thought it better than silence, and I can't send tells from Nirvana as it's cut off.
Eleison flickers briefly and is gone.
Eleison flickers briefly and is gone.
Eleison flickers briefly and is gone.
Eleison flickers briefly and is gone.
Eleison flickers briefly and is gone.
Eleison flickers briefly and is gone.
Eleison flickers briefly and is gone.
Me fleeing to Nirvana multiple times over a fight that lasted an hour perhaps? Because you had stonewalled every conceivable exit I could take. If I tumbled, you just braziered back, and I didn't feel like being locked in to one room against you sketching + full damage. I came right back out and fought immediately (when you weren't toteming) and kept fighting. Not sure what the complaint is here. Refuge is like 10 seconds... it's the slowest fleeing skill around. You see a message when it initiates. You know what's going on. You can choose not to follow me from that point on... or not to put walls up. Whatever works.
So, it was lame for me to use earrings when I was being 3v1ed in piety, but it's not lame to use REFUGE to get out of a 1v1 fight? Wat.
You said you just tumble in those situations! Apparently not!
just ignoring its existence, going for an affliction stack, and then being surprised when it pops up, hitting it like WTF IS THIS, and then going back to doing the same thing again.
Man, you just encapsulated my entire fighting career in one small sentence.
Why is killing someone when AFK a combat log? What am I missing? Usually, if I notice that, I stop. I thought most people would. Is that not the case?
lol people generally try to get me when I'm AFK or otherwise distracted. I don't normally afk anywhere but my ship. Mith goes out of his way to jump me if I take novices hunting, laying retardation traps while I frantically try to get the novice home. We've got a really crappy mean relationship and I'm just kind of used to us being jerks to each other.
I think that your version of events is really skewed. I've only jumped you while hunting once, and you were in the underworld, hunting DK's with this 'novice'. You then moved to Mog, where I killed you. I don't think killing you once while you were hunting with someone is really considered me going out of my way.
Leaving UW lesser forming icewalling and retarding half of moghedu when all I'm doing in response is leaving and braziering the novice to try to get her out is a lot of effort lol how was that not going out of your way ?
I braziered the novice to try to get her out. Either way, I just see it as how things are for us, bebe. I misunderstood cause when I was newer and stretched it way too far. You're still not over that, and that's ok. You've made it clear repeatedly that we're in a sort of no quarter back and forth. I just accept that we can't stand each other and enjoy killing you for it. No probs bebe.
blah blah blah blah in the Quisalis. blah blah blah in Annwyn blah blah blah
With all due respect, your position of strength in Ashtan has made you arrogant. You attack without reason, and feel it your right to slay whoever you please, whenever you please, without any rationale. And then complain when someone does not wish to engage with you on your terms. So it goes.
I see where everything on my end is justified. I was jumping you back.
You getting defensive after being posted doing..
.. for an hour during a fight just shows the broad difference between the character Mizik and the character Eleison. You make yourself look terrible - I certainly didn't mind, not sure what makes you think I did or why you think I'd complain; I got what I wanted - and then wince when you find your fabulous display posted. I'd be embarrassed, too.
blah blah blah blah in the Quisalis. blah blah blah in Annwyn blah blah blah
With all due respect, your position of strength in Ashtan has made you arrogant. You attack without reason, and feel it your right to slay whoever you please, whenever you please, without any rationale. And then complain when someone does not wish to engage with you on your terms. So it goes.
I see where everything on my end is justified. I was jumping you back.
You getting defensive after being posted doing..
.. for an hour during a fight just shows the broad difference between the character Mizik and the character Eleison. You make yourself look terrible - I certainly didn't mind, not sure what makes you think I did or why you think I'd complain; I got what I wanted - and then wince when you find your fabulous display posted. I'd be embarrassed, too.
I never complain.
A fabulous display is never anything to be ashamed of. I don't see what any of this fuss is about.
Eloru pricks Dajio twice in rapid succession with her dirk.
Dajio's eyes close suddenly as he falls asleep.
Dajio awakens with a start.
Dajio shivers particularly intensely.
Dajio says, "You should see this siht."
With a pop of her knuckles, Eloru buries her foot under Dajio's back and flips her helpless victim over onto his stomach.
Eloru lowers her whip with a disappointed look upon her face.
You suddenly perceive the vague outline of an aura of rebounding around Eloru.
Dajio coughs suddenly, expelling black fluid with bits of what looks to be tissue suspended in it.
Dajio says, "Fuck this game."
Eloru's aura of weapons rebounding disappears.
With a pop of her knuckles, Eloru buries her foot under Dajio's back and flips her helpless victim over onto his stomach.
Dajio says, "I'm done."
Dajio grows still and his lips begin to move silently.
Hissing softly, a death adder swiftly strikes at Dajio, leaving two pinpricks in his flesh.
Dajio trembles slightly as a yellow jaundice begins to creep through his now-pale features.
Holding Dajio's head up, Eloru snaps her wrist, sending her whip to wrap around her victim's neck. She casually places her foot upon the small of Dajio's back and jerks the whip viciously backwards,
causing it to bite deeply into his throat and shatter his windpipe. Dajio gasps uselessly for air as Eloru smirks with satisfaction.
A New Theran villager strides in from the north with a short nod.
You watch in horror as blood begins to seep from every pore in Dajio's body.
As Eloru pulls her whip back further, you hear a sudden 'SNAP' and see Dajio's body go limp beneath her. Her deed done, Eloru unravels her whip and steps back from her victim, leaving his lifeless
corpse on the ground as a warning to others of the folly of crossing her.
Dajio falls limply to the ground.
Dajio has been slain by Eloru.
A small grey-brown rattlesnake falls from Dajio's corpse.
Calm down, boys. Here, have the only thing I could really dig up.
I don't have any actual combat logs I've saved from recent, but here's a log of me getting jumped and barely managing to gtfo. Nothing but basic defs up, no virdian, etc.
@Melodie you could post your end of the log when I ganked you, all of Eleusis came to help and you still died. That was a good one
I called for help only after I was locked. No defences, again. I'm still not sure why you attacked me out of the blue, but we got you back later, so it's whatever!
Jeeze these faces are terrible.
And I love too Be still, my indelible friend That love soon might end You are unbreaking And be known in its aching Though quaking Shown in this shaking Though crazy Lately of my wasteland, baby That's just wasteland, baby
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Why is killing someone when AFK a combat log? What am I missing? Usually, if I notice that, I stop. I thought most people would. Is that not the case?
Sadly no.
It's a "combat log" and completely appropriate for this thread.
@Melodie you could post your end of the log when I ganked you, all of Eleusis came to help and you still died. That was a good one
Eat like a caveman, train like a beast. Champions are not born, they are made.
Had my first interaction with this kid. Was good.
Jumps me in Annwyn, I smash seven shades of shit out of him and he explodes. Then I troll him all over the world to the beat of:
Eleison arrives from the south.
4926h, 4225m, 21574e, 8040w, excdbk 12/12|10/0|0/0|14 05:39:00.046
Eleison sings out 'Tra la la la la' happily.
4926h, 4225m, 21574e, 8040w, excdbk 12/12|10/0|0/0|14 05:39:02.062
Eleison leaves to the southeast.
,
Sent by Eleison
7/04/9:24 I wonder how long it will take you to get bored! Going to read some news!
,
Eleison tells you, "Whee."
,
Eleison flickers briefly and is gone.
Eleison flickers briefly and is gone.
Eleison flickers briefly and is gone.
Eleison flickers briefly and is gone.
Eleison flickers briefly and is gone.
Eleison flickers briefly and is gone.
Eleison flickers briefly and is gone.
Quality. Gonna mark this one down as a phat 'W'.
1 minute cool down.
Come now Mizik, some context. That message? You were propping a totem outside of Nirvana. There is one exit out. I'm not going to walk into a totem. That's not so smart. Was just an OOC indication I wouldn't be coming out soon. I thought it better than silence, and I can't send tells from Nirvana as it's cut off.
Me fleeing to Nirvana multiple times over a fight that lasted an hour perhaps? Because you had stonewalled every conceivable exit I could take. If I tumbled, you just braziered back, and I didn't feel like being locked in to one room against you sketching + full damage. I came right back out and fought immediately (when you weren't toteming) and kept fighting. Not sure what the complaint is here. Refuge is like 10 seconds... it's the slowest fleeing skill around. You see a message when it initiates. You know what's going on. You can choose not to follow me from that point on... or not to put walls up. Whatever works.
You also seem to forget jumping me and a hunting mate, for no apparent reason, a few months back with another Ashtani in the Quisalis. Hence my desire to try and fight you in Annwyn to settle the score.
With all due respect, your position of strength in Ashtan has made you arrogant. You attack without reason, and feel it your right to slay whoever you please, whenever you please, without any rationale. And then complain when someone does not wish to engage with you on your terms. So it goes.
Quisalis den is defendable by members of the Quisalis:
In the room Before an archway:
Mizik's runie again?! *squeal*
I like how people comment on tree tattoo rather than why, in the log, you never gave kalmia.
Also, remind me not to teach you anymore of my secrets. My god, you started a bard log-posting fest.
Rebounding is frustrating for new combatants, but there are plenty of ways to deal with it. You already have an echo that says rebounding coming in 9 seconds. Make a tempTimer that tells you when it's almost up, and then use curare jabs when you see that echo, while saving voice balance. Then cantata/curare when it comes up and go on with your stuff.
Alternatively, you can time your attacks around rebounding better. Start immediately when it goes down and lock before it comes up.
Or a mix of the two. Stick a few affs (or just waste tree tatt) before rebounding comes up, cantata/curare, then go for lock before it comes up again.
Edit: Basically, you just need to learn to consciously plan your offense around rebounding rather than just ignoring its existence, going for an affliction stack, and then being surprised when it pops up, hitting it like WTF IS THIS, and then going back to doing the same thing again. And I'm not trying to be demeaning with this comment. I just think a lot of newer afflicters have this kind of mentality. Probably me too way back when.
So, it was lame for me to use earrings when I was being 3v1ed in piety, but it's not lame to use REFUGE to get out of a 1v1 fight? Wat.
You said you just tumble in those situations! Apparently not!
No actual skill. Just a shit-talking mouth and CURING ON.
Man, you just encapsulated my entire fighting career in one small sentence.
lol people generally try to get me when I'm AFK or otherwise distracted. I don't normally afk anywhere but my ship. Mith goes out of his way to jump me if I take novices hunting, laying retardation traps while I frantically try to get the novice home. We've got a really crappy mean relationship and I'm just kind of used to us being jerks to each other.
Leaving UW lesser forming icewalling and retarding half of moghedu when all I'm doing in response is leaving and braziering the novice to try to get her out is a lot of effort lol how was that not going out of your way ?
I braziered the novice to try to get her out. Either way, I just see it as how things are for us, bebe. I misunderstood cause when I was newer and stretched it way too far. You're still not over that, and that's ok. You've made it clear repeatedly that we're in a sort of no quarter back and forth. I just accept that we can't stand each other and enjoy killing you for it. No probs bebe.
I see where everything on my end is justified. I was jumping you back.
You getting defensive after being posted doing..
.. for an hour during a fight just shows the broad difference between the character Mizik and the character Eleison. You make yourself look terrible - I certainly didn't mind, not sure what makes you think I did or why you think I'd complain; I got what I wanted - and then wince when you find your fabulous display posted. I'd be embarrassed, too.
I never complain.
A fabulous display is never anything to be ashamed of. I don't see what any of this fuss is about.
Dajio shivers particularly intensely.
A small grey-brown rattlesnake rattles his tail in warning at Eloru before slithering to bite her leg.
Dajio grows still and his lips begin to move silently.
Eloru takes a long drag off her oaken pipe.
Eloru eats a plumbum flake.
Eloru's aura of weapons rebounding disappears.
Eloru leaps into the air and launches a flying kick at Dajio.
Eloru connects.
You watch in horror as blood begins to seep from every pore in Dajio's body.
Eloru takes a long drag off her oaken pipe.
A small grey-brown rattlesnake arcs forward, and sinks his fangs into Eloru's ankle.
Eloru takes some balm from a vial and rubs it on her skin.
You say, "Stop being a bitch."
Eloru says in a low, brisk voice, "Need a new one then."
A small grey-brown rattlesnake rattles his tail in warning at Eloru before slithering to bite her leg.
Dajio begins to convulse, and as his mouth opens in a silent scream, you hear a loud snapping as his back shatters from the sheer force of the spasms.
Dajio has been slain by Eloru.
The soul of Dajio says, "Fuck off."
#justmoarDajiothings
https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/093f4074
Eloru's aura of weapons rebounding disappears.
Eloru sinks her fangs into Dajio's body.
Eloru takes a long drag off her oaken pipe.
Eloru sinks her fangs into Dajio's body.
Eloru sinks her fangs into Dajio's body.
Blood begins to slowly drip from Dajio's nose.
Eloru pricks Dajio twice in rapid succession with her dirk.
Dajio's eyes close suddenly as he falls asleep.
Dajio awakens with a start.
Dajio shivers particularly intensely.
Dajio says, "You should see this siht."
With a pop of her knuckles, Eloru buries her foot under Dajio's back and flips her helpless victim over onto his stomach.
Eloru lowers her whip with a disappointed look upon her face.
You suddenly perceive the vague outline of an aura of rebounding around Eloru.
Dajio coughs suddenly, expelling black fluid with bits of what looks to be tissue suspended in it.
Dajio says, "Fuck this game."
Eloru's aura of weapons rebounding disappears.
With a pop of her knuckles, Eloru buries her foot under Dajio's back and flips her helpless victim over onto his stomach.
Dajio says, "I'm done."
Dajio grows still and his lips begin to move silently.
Hissing softly, a death adder swiftly strikes at Dajio, leaving two pinpricks in his flesh.
Dajio trembles slightly as a yellow jaundice begins to creep through his now-pale features.
Holding Dajio's head up, Eloru snaps her wrist, sending her whip to wrap around her victim's neck. She casually places her foot upon the small of Dajio's back and jerks the whip viciously backwards,
causing it to bite deeply into his throat and shatter his windpipe. Dajio gasps uselessly for air as Eloru smirks with satisfaction.
A New Theran villager strides in from the north with a short nod.
You watch in horror as blood begins to seep from every pore in Dajio's body.
As Eloru pulls her whip back further, you hear a sudden 'SNAP' and see Dajio's body go limp beneath her. Her deed done, Eloru unravels her whip and steps back from her victim, leaving his lifeless
corpse on the ground as a warning to others of the folly of crossing her.
Dajio falls limply to the ground.
Dajio has been slain by Eloru.
A small grey-brown rattlesnake falls from Dajio's corpse.
#justmoarDajiothingsmoarDajiothings
I called for help only after I was locked. No defences, again. I'm still not sure why you attacked me out of the blue, but we got you back later, so it's whatever!
Jeeze these faces are terrible.
That love soon might end You are unbreaking
And be known in its aching Though quaking
Shown in this shaking Though crazy
Lately of my wasteland, baby That's just wasteland, baby