https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/dc9e64d6 I hate trying to spend 75% of a fight working around rebound against affliction heavy classes, I just kind of gave up near the end since I couldn't do it at all. Sometimes it really makes me wanna class change to something like Magi just not fun in the slightest.
Rebounding is frustrating for new combatants, but there are plenty of ways to deal with it. You already have an echo that says rebounding coming in 9 seconds. Make a tempTimer that tells you when it's almost up, and then use curare jabs when you see that echo, while saving voice balance. Then cantata/curare when it comes up and go on with your stuff.
Alternatively, you can time your attacks around rebounding better. Start immediately when it goes down and lock before it comes up.
Or a mix of the two. Stick a few affs (or just waste tree tatt) before rebounding comes up, cantata/curare, then go for lock before it comes up again.
Edit: Basically, you just need to learn to consciously plan your offense around rebounding rather than just ignoring its existence, going for an affliction stack, and then being surprised when it pops up, hitting it like WTF IS THIS, and then going back to doing the same thing again. And I'm not trying to be demeaning with this comment. I just think a lot of newer afflicters have this kind of mentality. Probably me too way back when.
I actually have a temp timer that says "ATTACK NOW", but I think I based it on the timing I need to use when I work towards my confusion/force restore to funeralmass someone. So I can raze and still have the required amount of time I need. I've tried to lock before it comes up, but against heavy affliction classes like Serpy/Apostole, or Knights. I'm always paralysised or clumsi'd. (Though to be fair..Iaki is the only one who uses rebounding against me as a knight.)
And meh! You're not being demeaning, I get your point. Just all the practice I attempt hasn't come up with anything and it's hyper frustrating and seems all based on luck.
Oh, para/clumsy is annoying as hell as bard, but that's "para/clumsy" being annoying imo, not "rebounding."
If you aren't already, touch tree on para/clumsy. Also might want to use shield and rebounding in such a way as to force a raze so that you can start your attacking while they're off balance from raze, and then keep attacking when you tree clumsy. Gives you some time without being clumsy at least, against para/clumsy spammers.
Next time I'll borrow all of cyrene's combined artefacts and then charge in. Then I could kill one of you and at least seem competent before dying! (Or use Aria, but having 5k health compared to 4.5k wouldn't make to much of a difference.)
Next time I'll borrow all of cyrene's combined artefacts and then charge in. Then I could kill one of you and at least seem competent before dying! (Or use Aria, but having 5k health compared to 4.5k wouldn't make to much of a difference.)
Why'd that huge group of like 5 (maybe 6?) take so long to bored that could have been a fun fight.
Next time I'll borrow all of cyrene's combined artefacts and then charge in. Then I could kill one of you and at least seem competent before dying! (Or use Aria, but having 5k health compared to 4.5k wouldn't make to much of a difference.)
Why'd that huge group of like 5 (maybe 6?) take so long to bored that could have been good exp.
You shouldn't use @Rom as a good benchmark for sentinel because it's not his class, it's those axes. The supposed weaponry overhaul that will some day come should handle that I would think - thus causing him to jump ship to some other class.
I "jumped ship" multiple times while Sentinel was considered OP, not sure why you say shit like that. I'm not the one who snitched on you on IRC so you can stop trying to call me out, that would certainly be appreciated. Anyway on that same point you brought up, that log is a poor benchmark of defense! Jinsun was walking into free damage traps and has 4300 hp at level 100 whilst also being one of the most squishy classes when not utilizing active hindering/healing. In that situation he only acted as an enabler.
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I actually have a temp timer that says "ATTACK NOW", but I think I based it on the timing I need to use when I work towards my confusion/force restore to funeralmass someone. So I can raze and still have the required amount of time I need. I've tried to lock before it comes up, but against heavy affliction classes like Serpy/Apostole, or Knights. I'm always paralysised or clumsi'd. (Though to be fair..Iaki is the only one who uses rebounding against me as a knight.)
And meh! You're not being demeaning, I get your point. Just all the practice I attempt hasn't come up with anything and it's hyper frustrating and seems all based on luck.
Oh, para/clumsy is annoying as hell as bard, but that's "para/clumsy" being annoying imo, not "rebounding."
If you aren't already, touch tree on para/clumsy. Also might want to use shield and rebounding in such a way as to force a raze so that you can start your attacking while they're off balance from raze, and then keep attacking when you tree clumsy. Gives you some time without being clumsy at least, against para/clumsy spammers.
and here is another log for the log pile: https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/4e382e1b .. I actually didn't go splat against an alchemist, and managed to get a lock through rebounding!
Edit: Also yeah, I have a script that touches tree when I have clumsy/asthma/slickness just to stop knights from venom prepping me easily.
Death taroting a monk is not easy, fun with icewalls:
https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/8c02f865
Does mind pacify still stop death tarot from completing?
Shhh (i dunno. Mind fear sure jacks it up, but everyone uses paralyze so if you time the pause during a combo you make out pgood)
(Project 9): Datrius says, "And why am I a naughty boy?"
I don't even wanna know. Man you people include some weird shit in your logs.
Really gotta finish scripting the rest of my channels to my chat pane
I don't think it does. I use mind fear because even if they can't move (walls) the tic of moving itself cancels the death tarot
https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/46a3722c
Gah
Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
Did last time I tested.
Requires lock now, though.
jerks.
whoa whoa whoa, jabs at people will get you banned!
Also, try making pausing for 8 seconds a valid tactic for you and see how it goes.
https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/48565f51 you guys suck, I was told it was just 2 of you on there. I didn't even stand a remote of a chance
Sorry, bebe. You tried to be a hero, you ended up a martyr.
Nah, we weren't really doing anything advance, I just warped, heh. We could hinder you enough, I'm sure.
6380h, 4656m, 20400w, 27664e ex|cdbk-@ Indigo (23:01:11.044)(-15m, 0.3%) gl n
Among fields of indigo.
Snowflakes float down around you, colouring the world white. Naga Eloru Rousseau is here, hidden. <--- Cancelling wormhole.
She wields a darkbow in both hands.
You see exits leading south, southwest, west, and a wormhole leading to Road along a steep slope.
A wormhole is here, leading to: Genji market (#10121) in Genji.
6380h, 4722m, 20400w, 27684e x|cdbk-@ Indigo (23:01:14.727)(+66m, 1.4%)
You have recovered equilibrium. (0.303s)
6380h, 4722m, 20400w, 27684e ex|cdbk-@ Indigo (23:01:15.030)yank eloru;dispel eloru
You are suddenly and unexpectedly pulled back into phase with reality.(svo): System unpaused.
pt unphased: Fields of indigo (the Eastern Reaches)
You lash out with your whip and drag Eloru into the room. <--- Few minutes before cancel will complete.
[here - Eloru (1)]
6380h, 4707m, 20400w, 27654e e|cdbk- Indigo (23:01:17.898)(-15m, 0.3%)
You point a finger at Eloru to dispel all her illusions.
6380h, 4702m, 20400w, 27654e e|cdbk- Indigo (23:01:18.070)(-5m, 0.1%)
You are not the member of any party.
6380h, 4702m, 20400w, 27654e e|cdbk- Indigo (23:01:18.342)
You have recovered balance on all limbs.
snap eloru (2.047s)
6380h, 4702m, 20400w, 27654e ex|cdbk- Indigo (23:01:19.944)
You snap your fingers in front of Eloru. <--- Dash east.
6380h, 4702m, 20400w, 27674e ex|cdbk- Indigo (23:01:20.253)e
Eloru glances briefly eastwards and dashes off into the distance.
6380h, 4730m, 20400w, 27674e ex|cdbk- Indigo (23:01:21.273)(+28m, 0.6%) e
Approaching Targossas (road).
Snowflakes float down around you, colouring the world white. A sigil in the shape of a small,
rectangular monolith is on the ground. Spreading its majestic golden wings, a giant eagle searches
the ground with piercing eyes.
You see exits leading east, west, and northwest.
6380h, 4730m, 20400w, 27672e ex|cdbk- Indigo (23:01:22.103)e
Approaching the Champions' Bridge (road).
Snowflakes float down around you, colouring the world white. A rune shaped like a butterfly has been
sketched into the ground here (nairat: transfix). A rune like an open eye has been sketched into the
ground here (wunjo: cure blind). An obsidian eye sigil is here. A runic totem is planted solidly in
the ground. Naga Eloru Rousseau is here, hidden. She wields a darkbow in both hands.
You see exits leading north and west.
6380h, 4730m, 20400w, 27670e ex|cdbk- Indigo (23:01:22.727)n;yank eloru;dispel eloru
The Champions' Bridge.
Snowflakes float down around you, colouring the world white. A rune resembling a horse has been
sketched into the ground here (raido: return location). Lambent energy pulses around the skeletal
frame of a Naxian mistweaver. There are 2 Blackstone swordsmen here. There are 2 Riverwall bow-
maidens here. A noble snow-white falcon glides to and fro here. A runic totem is planted solidly in
the ground. Hung from the western column of the arch that forms the city gates, a gilt-edged indigo
scroll proudly displays the Bloodsworn decree on innocence. A huge statue of the Scimitar of Yen-
Sorte stands here, thrusting skywards.
You see exits leading north, south, and a wormhole leading to Upon the Isle of Ram.
6380h, 4730m, 20400w, 27668e ex|cdbk- Indigo (23:01:23.026)
You lash out with your whip and drag Eloru into the room.
Eloru's attention is grabbed and held by a nairat rune.
Eloru's attention is grabbed and held by a nairat rune.
Eloru's attention is grabbed and held by a nairat rune.
[here - Eloru (1)]
6380h, 4730m, 20400w, 27618e e|cdbk- Indigo (23:01:23.416)
You point a finger at Eloru to dispel all her illusions.
6380h, 4725m, 20400w, 27618e e|cdbk- Indigo (23:01:23.631)(-5m, 0.1%)
Dancing behind Eloru in a blur of motion, a Riverwall bow-maiden crushes her bow against their neck,
squeezing down tightly.
Eloru wakes up with a gasp of pain.
6380h, 4725m, 20400w, 27618e e|cdbk- Indigo (23:01:23.940)
A Naxian mistweaver's eyes gleam as Eloru is butchered with a wicked blow.
Twirling her sword through the air, a Blackstone swordsman slashes into Eloru with sharpened steel.
At once, blood begins to pour from the gaping wound.
Eloru has been slain by a Blackstone swordsman.
A starburst tattoo flares and bathes Eloru in red light.
The corpse of a mighty earth golem falls from Eloru's person.
A death adder falls from Eloru's person.
6380h, 4725m, 20400w, 27638e e|cdbk- Indigo (23:01:24.560)
Dancing behind Eloru in a blur of motion, a Riverwall bow-maiden crushes her bow against their neck,
squeezing down tightly.
6380h, 4725m, 20400w, 27638e e|cdbk- Indigo (23:01:24.861)
You have recovered balance on all limbs. (2.332s)
6380h, 4710m, 20400w, 27638e ex|cdbk- Indigo (23:01:25.747)yank eloru;dispel eloru
Twirling her sword through the air, a Blackstone swordsman slashes into Eloru with sharpened steel.
At once, blood begins to pour from the gaping wound.
Eloru has been slain by a Blackstone swordsman.
6380h, 4710m, 20400w, 27638e ex|cdbk- Indigo (23:01:26.022)
---
Eloru tells you, "I'll get them!"
---
You tell Naga Eloru Rousseau, "That's fine, darling. You think too highly of me if you think I
actually care about Targossas' wormholes which no one uses. While you were cancelling theirs though,
I got the rest of yours. Enjoy!"
---
Outgrief'd.
09:13:04 (Market): Bonko says, "Eloru is paying handsomely
for someone to take her places having failed to protect her
precious wormholes."
What, you thought I wouldn't? @Bonko
(Market): You say, "Eloru is paying handsomely for someone to take her places having failed to
protect her precious wormholes."
Eloru tells you, "My places?"
You tell Naga Eloru Rousseau, "Walking looks a bit onerous for your fat little legs, I was doing you
a favour."
Eloru tells you, "I'm not fat thanks."
Why'd that huge group of like 5 (maybe 6?) take so long to bored that could have been a fun fight.
FTFY bebe
https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/42a8411a
Screwed before it even started. @Seftin
Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/7944d2af
What the heck, Sentinel is so insanely fast. @Makarios will you fight one then tell us how to fight one?
Stand your ground! FOR GLORY!
(Also don't sip mana.)
Viva la adrenaline
why @Makarios
I "jumped ship" multiple times while Sentinel was considered OP, not sure why you say shit like that. I'm not the one who snitched on you on IRC so you can stop trying to call me out, that would certainly be appreciated. Anyway on that same point you brought up, that log is a poor benchmark of defense! Jinsun was walking into free damage traps and has 4300 hp at level 100 whilst also being one of the most squishy classes when not utilizing active hindering/healing. In that situation he only acted as an enabler.
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