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because one of the most enjoyable things about achaea is the sense of risk. If you add server side autosippers or curing, you reduce it to not being "dont go near that basilisk till you understand how paralysis works and about sipping" to just buying one of everything and being fine from the offset. To me as an old zmud player when i first started playing i knew nothing, has no idea what a trigger was etc, i then got killed by jarik when he raided the old sorcerers guild in hashan, i died because i had no clue the fun then started because i then scripted my own auto sipper, learnt about scripting from Ic friends but in an ooc format, this led to stronger ties between us and then to making them into ooc friends. This doesnt make sense.
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Short version server side curing would kill my sense of imersion. Just have people pointed towards the forums for systems. Dont kill the magic by having achaea start slowly curing your afflictions wi th out any input on your part.
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Exactly. I'm not sure how writing software OOC is less immersion-breaking in a medieval world than being told that your character is smart enough to do perform an instructed action when it thinks it next regains the appropriate balance.*
Like Drauka, my interest in adding a small amount of server-side automation is mainly in eliminating ping wars from being a factor in how the combat mechanics are balanced and systems are written.
*note the "thinks"- I'm not suggesting killing the idea of illusions but the way they work could use a fresh look
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It sounds like you're grouping two things that don't have to go together: knowing what afflictions you have and deciding when/how to cure them.
One diagnose (or the lines that make you think you just got or have an affliction, if you trust them to not be illusions) gives you a list of things you need to cure.
From there, you work down the list (deciding that you need to eat a goldenseal and a kelp, drink immunity, apply two mendings and a restoration then mending) and don't need to do additional diag's until you're done with that list. While working through the list (probably separate lists for each balance) you're just watching for regaining herb/salve balances, not running DIAG each time you think you want to cure something.
That is a little bit of simplification because you're constantly adding and curing afflictions.
A common set of search keywords would be healing queue to find some examples in various clients.
Also, @Santar isn't in Targ yet because unlike everybody else I don't have Alzheimer's.
That's not only not fun, but ... that sounds terrible to code.
I came from a game with one of the most complex and in depth combat systems that might ever exist in a mud, and you could script combat to just gain skill points to gain lessons... but... if you use a script in pvp scenarios you are definitely just going to die.
This is not news I actually like reading.
I can read fast.. but not that fast.
There are dozens of combat styles and subskills for every combat style and if you don't know the ins and outs of what every specific move did - how your rank bonus (for your trained ranks) worked out for every stance (several stances including berserk to defensive) against someone elses' stance and their weapon ...
and you couldn't follow (read with your own eyes at a swift pace) what moves they were using against you,
you were going to be annihilated.
I wasn't the best PvP player in the game by far, but I was one of the higher tier combatants over the years and it's something only the player controls. If you aren't reading, using your mind and following whatever tactics someone else is using against you.. and you don't plan a response immediately, you'll end up unconscious or in a coma... worst case scenario, dead.
I just can't imagine a game where you find the joy in writing a script to respond to combat ...instead of actually engaging in the combat itself.
It's not a matter of "Oh darn this is so hard, I can't do it" for me as anewbie to this game.
It's me looking at it and going... well, once I figured out how to write said script... how zombied out am I going to be in the midst of battle?
Maybe I'm getting it all wrong, how combat works here. But it just sounds mindless once your script and triggers are built and in place.
I don't want this game to be the game I played, obviously. It's why I'm trying to learn this game specifically!
I just see some vast downfalls.
The other game too years to master. Nobody could walk in and just power own anyone after grinding.
Because no matter how many stats/ranks you gathered for your character, if you didn't know what was going on, you'd still be outsmarted. I guess it was a downfall and positive of it all.
The downfall being, it took so long to build an extremely solid pvp character.
The upside being, it was enchanting and it hooked so many players even when a lot of other parts of the game have fallen to crap. The non-com aspect of the game, outside of role play alone, were terrible and neglected.
But that kind of engagement in combat was extremely stimulating and fascinating. Always will be.
I guess I'm just trying to understand how this combat system works and how, if it is run by a system, it's interesting or enthralling. I'm not bashing it. I'm just trying to grasp it from a real newbie's standpoint.
It's nearly impossible to automate an offense, but you script it so that you can do complicated things fast enough to be effective. For instance, as a Serpent, you might be envenoming a dirk with two venoms, doublestabbing, and conjuring an illusion every two seconds. Doing that as singular commands would require superhuman typing skills, so you script, alias, and macro to handle that better. It's not going to make it an "I win" button, since you still need to know what skills to use and how to use them to kill someone.
I didn't even realize people were using any systems and I didn't know there was anything like html5 being offered or how to get it. These are kinds of things that as a newbie, trying to take in everything at once, you just don't know about. It's not something I've read about anywhere or know how to obtain.
I think the majority of people playing muds are people who have played muds in the past, at this point. It's not the complexity of the system that is too much.. it's not even knowing there is a system.
So even if it's the kind of combat that will forever be - one of the tricks to getting new players involved, would be, to make that sort of information known from the get go so people could start trying to figure it out instead of watching combat and going *buggy eyes* what the .... how...
If you have a friend who plays who helps you get involved in the game, that is the kind of information they can pass on and help you build. But when you come in knowing nobody it's daunting.
I hope I don't sound negative. I'm not meaning to be negative.
Just trying to give some feedback to what I think this thread was questioning.