Third Black Wave: Electric Boogaloo

Morsul

IMO this event kind of ruins the idea that the tsol'teth are a Big Bad of the Achaea story. Dry humour and negotiations? They've changed from being Saurons to being British.

Kiet

Morsul said:

IMO this event kind of ruins the idea that the tsol'teth are a Big Bad of the Achaea story. Dry humour and negotiations? They've changed from being Saurons to being British.

Had your school been honest with its history lessons, you'd realize the British are historically pretty horrifying monsters, so it fits!

Erza

Surprise surprise another Cyrenian chiming in! (*YAWN* I know, I know...)

I wanted to take things a little differently. I actually wanted to mostly say thanks. The first day I openly spoke about my character (about where she was most likely going) to someone outside of the IG people I talk OOC with, was on the Achaea Discord and @Taryius was the one who responded. Keep in mind I've been trying to get more comfortable speaking OOC with others because I have heard nothing but 'Cyrene this, Cyrene that' worst than ever since this event started, so I know peoples thoughts about Cyrene and I try to distance Erza from all that even though I know somehow she'll get lumped into that group of people because it's how guilty by association works.

Anyway Taryius basically stated that I could do far more with my character than what I was thinking. Basically what all he has already been saying on the forums but in much less words. Knowing my character, I had thought there was only one way to take her during this event being who she was. I don't expect her to be sunshine and puppies all the time, but I felt the only way she could go is to be completely bitter and lash out.

Instead, the same night Taryius said that there could be more, I qq'd went to a friends game night, had a blast and took some notes on what I could do with her to keep her the way I wanted her but reevaluated and somewhat changed from the event. I won't lie, I got frustrated because I was having so much fun working on my plot and helping out in the Shield and got too comfortable that I didn't think Cyrene being conquered would ever happen lol but it did. But I gave Erza a bit more thought and I came to the very obvious realization that I can build her any way I like but in the end, it won't matter because building her up all myself wouldn't amount to much without the events/people/situations to help back it up. So to those who find Cyrenians annoying but still give some of us the time of day regardless, thanks. Even the smallest bit of your time can go a long way.

To the admins, thanks for not blowing up Cyrene just quite yet... YET. 
 

 

Thaisen

Kaedan said:

(A lot of stuff)

Best post in the entire thread....

Asmodron

Morsul said:

IMO this event kind of ruins the idea that the tsol'teth are a Big Bad of the Achaea story. Dry humour and negotiations? They've changed from being Saurons to being British.

It's all a perspective based concept. For example, some on Targ may see Mhaldor as the "big bad" while mhaldorians may see Targ as such.

One thing I like about the Tsol'teth concept is that for the majority of characters' lives...they were just a story. A telling of these monstrous bad guys that want to destroy everything. It was basically a fairy tale with them as the wicked witch until recently. Cant help but make you wonder what their story of the overland was.

This is the first time in an age when actual communication is occurring.

Jinos

There's something that seems to be getting lost throughout these last few pages.

It really isn't the loss of Cyrene that is pushing some people to the brink. It can add to a good chunk of it. But it's the combination of things.

Loss of city, tide, unwinds. Rinse and repeat daily.

The prospect of playing a refugee sounds fun. And for the first few days it was an interesting aspect to log into... but when you add in everything else it becomes tiring. Fast.

If you're not unwinding, then you're fending off tide, and if you're not doing either you're trying to stay out of the way of those who are. Normally people would fall back to their city to not get in the way, or to just hang out, but without a base people are left to wander around. You don't feel like infesting another city because well... it's not your city, and you don't want to infringe on the narrative another place has going on. They need their own space.

And when you do have a moment to yourself once some things are clear -another area is full of tide again.

Sure. None of us has to clear the tide right away, but we also don't want to see every room full of it. It also doesn't fit the narrative of people who are trying to combat the tsol'teth to just let it seep freely.

Basically we're homeless custodians right now. Mopping up shit, trying to find an empty corner for a cig break, before we get back to mopping up the shit we just cleaned.

If it weren't for each other, and the awesome coordination for hitting tide within the Coaltion. We'd probably just... you know. I have no idea at this point. 

Melodie

Jinos said:

You don't feel like infesting another city because well... it's not your city, and you don't want to infringe on the narrative another place has going on. They need their own space.

Please feel free to infringe on my space. I'll probably stare at you weird and then try to figure out what sort of mettle you're made of.

I feel like I'm not the only person who wouldn't mind that. You're a refugee - part of that is being lost. This is practically the best time to be wandering around aimlessly and exploring what you never would have otherwise while anchored somewhere else. 

Come at us, bro.

Jinos

@Melodie

That sounds pretty damn fun when you put it that way.   

Minifie

I've been poking people to try and get them to either argue, debate or question their current stances and beliefs with regards to this event IC, not many respond, and that's fine, no character is forced to respond, but the few that did have been fun to interact with, so the more the merrier!

Telendrieth

Melodie said:

Jinos said:

You don't feel like infesting another city because well... it's not your city, and you don't want to infringe on the narrative another place has going on. They need their own space.

Please feel free to infringe on my space. I'll probably stare at you weird and then try to figure out what sort of mettle you're made of.

I feel like I'm not the only person who wouldn't mind that. You're a refugee - part of that is being lost. This is practically the best time to be wandering around aimlessly and exploring what you never would have otherwise while anchored somewhere else. 

Come at us, bro.

I'd love to, but I participated in banter with a Mhaldorian who was raiding us decades ago. He got his feelings hurt and enemied me for it. :P

Makarios

Morsul said:

IMO this event kind of ruins the idea that the tsol'teth are a Big Bad of the Achaea story. Dry humour and negotiations? They've changed from being Saurons to being British.

If you're a fan of your LotR mythos, the Sauron comparrison is not a bad one at all...

The main trillogy is after all the hard work was already done, after all.

Doriel

Makarios said:

Morsul said:

IMO this event kind of ruins the idea that the tsol'teth are a Big Bad of the Achaea story. Dry humour and negotiations? They've changed from being Saurons to being British.

If you're a fan of your LotR mythos, the Sauron comparrison is not a bad one at all...

The main trillogy is after all the hard work was already done, after all.

Yeah... the stakes in the main trilogy are laughably minuscule compared to everything else in the legendarium.

Torrent

The Benefits of the Tsol'teth 

Cyr

Doriel said:

Makarios said:

Morsul said:

IMO this event kind of ruins the idea that the tsol'teth are a Big Bad of the Achaea story. Dry humour and negotiations? They've changed from being Saurons to being British.

If you're a fan of your LotR mythos, the Sauron comparrison is not a bad one at all...

The main trillogy is after all the hard work was already done, after all.

Yeah... the stakes in the main trilogy are laughably minuscule compared to everything else in the legendarium.

The stakes are not actually that different to a huge portion of the history. The powers in play are fairly lesser though. 

Aegoth

Morgoth is to Agith'tai as Sauron is to Agith-maal

Melodie

Telendrieth said:

Melodie said:

Jinos said:

You don't feel like infesting another city because well... it's not your city, and you don't want to infringe on the narrative another place has going on. They need their own space.

Please feel free to infringe on my space. I'll probably stare at you weird and then try to figure out what sort of mettle you're made of.

I feel like I'm not the only person who wouldn't mind that. You're a refugee - part of that is being lost. This is practically the best time to be wandering around aimlessly and exploring what you never would have otherwise while anchored somewhere else. 

Come at us, bro.

I'd love to, but I participated in banter with a Mhaldorian who was raiding us decades ago. He got his feelings hurt and enemied me for it. :P

I don't even have enemy powers!

I'm purposefully pretty positionless. I'm practically harmless at this point. Honest, guv.

Archaeon

Kiet said:

Morsul said:

IMO this event kind of ruins the idea that the tsol'teth are a Big Bad of the Achaea story. Dry humour and negotiations? They've changed from being Saurons to being British.

Had your school been honest with its history lessons, you'd realize the British are historically pretty horrifying monsters, so it fits!

my eyes rolled so hard they fell out and now i'm blind, help me

Kiet

I'm sorry that actual facts are upsetting to you!

More on-topic, though, @Jinos I agree that there's literally nothing stopping you from going to other cities. Eleusis seems 100% welcoming to Cyrenian groups from what I've seen, and if you're just hanging out, nothing stops you from using, say, the inn in Caer as a designated hang-out beyond that. Obviously there's no guards but if you're in a group of 10+ it hardly matters.

Doriel

Cyr said:

Doriel said:

Makarios said:

Morsul said:

IMO this event kind of ruins the idea that the tsol'teth are a Big Bad of the Achaea story. Dry humour and negotiations? They've changed from being Saurons to being British.

If you're a fan of your LotR mythos, the Sauron comparrison is not a bad one at all...

The main trillogy is after all the hard work was already done, after all.

Yeah... the stakes in the main trilogy are laughably minuscule compared to everything else in the legendarium.

The stakes are not actually that different to a huge portion of the history. The powers in play are fairly lesser though. 

Morgoth: Ea (the universe)
Sauron: one continent

Cooper

I'm very, very surprised that we actually still have Tide on mainland Achaea. Whoever is organizing the Tide clearing is either not using any strategy, or their strategy is terrible.

Get better at tide strategy and the tide would have gone away already. 

Telinus

Cooper said:

I'm very, very surprised that we actually still have Tide on mainland Achaea. Whoever is organizing the Tide clearing is either not using any strategy, or their strategy is terrible.

Get better at tide strategy and the tide would have gone away already. 

Cooper, have you ever considered saying something remotely positive to anyone on the forum, or not acting as if you know better than everyone about everything related to Achaea in its entirety? Every forum post I read from you is combative or passive-aggressive and wildly skewed in favour of Mhaldor.

Perfectly fine to have a bias, we all do, in your case though not only are you bias, but passive aggressive or flat-out rude to people.

With regards to this event, its been relatively interesting, though I;ve missed the majority of the live action and onyl really caught up with everything through event/news posts.

I'm hoping something big happens soon that I may be able to be more involved in, as that would be very fun.

Thaisen

Cooper said:

I'm very, very surprised that we actually still have Tide on mainland Achaea. Whoever is organizing the Tide clearing is either not using any strategy, or their strategy is terrible.

Get better at tide strategy and the tide would have gone away already. 

Was nearly gone a few days ago, but it came back with a vengeance yesterday

Too many people are taking forum advice and taking breaks from fighting it

(Which is totally fine with me!)


Edit: Also having three cities not helping ... sometimes actively working against us makes it tricky as well.

Mroxyl

I've seen a time in which two shrines were unwound, and six spawned in the same half hour or so. Followed by a series of WTF? over the clan channels, and a lot of people deciding those breaks sounded better and better.  I'm curious if there are things that affect the spawning rate of the shrines, or if there's just random chance of when they spawn somewhere.

Skye

Cooper said:

I'm very, very surprised that we actually still have Tide on mainland Achaea. Whoever is organizing the Tide clearing is either not using any strategy, or their strategy is terrible.

Get better at tide strategy and the tide would have gone away already. 

You *do* realise that the Tide is coming out of 3 fixed locations that cannot be cleared right? One of them is very nearly on the doorstep of a river that connects to at least 4 other areas. There have also been incidents of surge where it creeps into an area but spawns a shrine on the other side of said area.

Korrok

"Negative. Three-fold retaliation is most efficient to invoke despair. Despair has proven to be adequate tool for processing emotional species"

Iloisee

Telinus said:

Cooper said:

I'm very, very surprised that we actually still have Tide on mainland Achaea. Whoever is organizing the Tide clearing is either not using any strategy, or their strategy is terrible.

Get better at tide strategy and the tide would have gone away already. 

Cooper, have you ever considered saying something remotely positive to anyone on the forum, or not acting as if you know better than everyone about everything related to Achaea in its entirety? Every forum post I read from you is combative or passive-aggressive and wildly skewed in favour of Mhaldor.

Cooper has actually said a number of positive things in this thread. This one was a bit unfair tho. Since shrines are proven to spawn even in Tide-free rooms I am fairly certain it's mechanically impossible to clear all Tide from the mainland.

Overall, the continent seems far less infested than it was before, though. 

Edit: idk how to quote.

Shub

I think everyone has figured out the sweet gold and they’re milking it dry at this point. If the tied could mechanically be cleared I suspect it would have by now.

Atalkez

Buffed my gold that’s for sure

Jiraishin

Later we find out that the Tide is being coaxed back into rooms by herb-gatherers making sweet, sweet profit off kelp demand.

Cooper

Blah, I had a big post written up and forgot to hit submit before closing Chrome.

tl;dr version - the whining about the Tide has gotten annoying when we have ways to prevent it that aren't being utilized

Nothing the Tide does is truly random, it follows a set of rules. If you can figure out those rules, it becomes much easier to defeat.